Dec. 29, 2023

Truth and Trust - Rob Greenlee with Truth Detective Stephanie Lee - Ep 2

Truth and Trust - Rob Greenlee with Truth Detective Stephanie Lee - Ep 2

In this second episode of Spoken Life with Rob Greenlee you will hear an conversation between Truth Detective Podcast Host Stephanie Lee (https://truthdetectivepodcast.com ) and 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee offers a deeper exploration into...

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In this second episode of Spoken Life with Rob Greenlee you will hear an conversation between Truth Detective Podcast Host Stephanie Lee (https://truthdetectivepodcast.com/ ) and 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee offers a deeper exploration into the nuances of truth and trust. They discuss the impact of social media and digital platforms in shaping public perceptions, emphasizing the difficulty in identifying reliable sources amidst a sea of information. The episode also examines the psychological effects of misinformation and the erosion of trust in institutions and media. Additionally, they touch upon the role of technology in creating echo chambers that reinforce biases and the importance of media literacy in today's society. This insightful dialogue aims to provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of our challenges and responsibilities in discerning truth and fostering trust in the modern world. Key Topic Bullet Takeaways from this episode:

  1. Challenges of Truth in Digital Age: Discussion on how social media and digital platforms blur the lines between truth and misinformation.
  2. Psychological Impacts: Exploration of the psychological effects of misinformation and declining trust in traditional institutions.
  3. Echo Chambers and Bias: Analysis of how technology creates echo chambers, reinforcing personal biases and shaping perceptions.
  4. Media Literacy: Emphasis on the importance of media literacy in discerning reliable information.
  5. Individual Responsibility: Focus on personal responsibility in critically evaluating information and fostering trust.
Guest: Truth Detective Podcast Host Stephanie Lee (https://truthdetectivepodcast.com/ ) You can reach me anytime via email - rob.greenlee at gmail.com or DM via LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and yes, even TiKTok and am on Twitter twitter.com/robgreenlee If you want to read more about my background, then visit robgreenlee.com/about/
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I am getting in trouble.

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I know you are.

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I actually got thrown off. I've got a couple episodes

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taken down from YouTube.

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Or Truth is always the path to trouble.

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That's true.

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In this episode of Spoken Life, I'm joined by terrific

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podcaster Stephanie Lee, and she's the host of the Truth

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Detective podcast that's been ongoing for over a year, and

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she's really pushing the envelope into some very controversial topics,

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but trying to expand people's thinking into what's happening in

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our world today. And I'm really honored to have her

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with me here on the program.

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The things that I'm talking about are the things that

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you're talking about, but you come at it from a different.

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Angle, one that will hopefully keep me out of trouble.

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I'm trying to get in trouble.

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Oh, I am getting in trouble. I know you are.

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I actually got thrown off. I got a couple episodes

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taken down from YouTube.

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Or Truth is always the path to trouble.

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That's true. It is very true.

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Right or trust is something that everybody aspires to and

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everybody wants in their life.

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That's right. So anything that you are told you have

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to confirm it within yourself if you believe it's true,

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and then you have to trust who is saying it

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right as well.

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So truth can be your truth, right or there truth right,

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So you have truth is your truth right you?

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So pretty much you have to decide what truth you're

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going to feel most comfortable with and if you trust

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that person that you're getting it from, right. So those

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are the two connections that we are podcast.

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So trust is implied in a human that's telling you

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the truth, right, So if you trust that person to

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tell you the truth, then there is a good chance

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that it will be a truth.

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And if it's not, you have to live with the

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consequences of what not trusting that person not trying to

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reevaluate has sought out the true. It's really a tricky

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subject here that we're talking about.

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It is very tricky. It's one that we're trying to

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thread the needle on when it gets you in more

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trouble than it does me.

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Right now, So you're just starting out and I find

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and I certainly have found this out in the past

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that I started really very cautiously walking on maybe a

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few eggs, and then as I began to study it

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more and.

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Walked on the eggs or you walked on egg shells. Oh,

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because that's true. There's a difference in the experience of

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walking on eggs or walking on eggs.

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Shells. If you walk on eggs go to eventually become eggshells.

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Eggs is a little messy, yes, eggs. Shells is a

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little crunchy.

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So I was walking both, right, So in the very beginning,

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I was definitely doing that whatever that whatever you used

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just said egg shells. And then as I got more

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and more entrenched in my research.

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Then you started walking on eggs.

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It became a deep rabbit hole of eggs messy. It

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was really messy, And I would maybe think that is

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what's going to happen with your trust factor.

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It's going to get messy eventually.

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I think what's going to happen is the same thing

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that happened to me and a lot of people, is

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that your opinion starts to really you start to really

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form an opinion if you do research and if you

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do truth seeking right, and then you wonder, geez, why

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did I trust that person? That person was way off

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or or that person was really wrong, And what happened

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with my compass, my mow compass or is it like

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what happened to the research? Where did I get my

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research to figure that one out? And why is it

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so wrong? So I think maybe and your trust factor,

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you may come across things that you want to talk

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about that maybe you've never talked about before. Like me,

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I had never talked about things like that. I started

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out with just basic things like the tunnel people and

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certain things that people didn't know about. And then slowly

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I got a.

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Little more political.

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Yeah, I got a little more courageous about what I

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was saying. In the meantime time COVID nineteen happened, and

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that definitely had swayed me in a political way because

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it was really obvious that had a I'm sorry to say,

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but it did have a political agenda to it.

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Yeah, it should it be political? No, No, truth always

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be non political.

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Yes, I am saying to you in my last couple

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of episodes, I've said, stop looking at left and right

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and start looking at what's your right or wrong?

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Is?

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How do you see it? So if I think the

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COVID thing, I think the climate change things that cannot

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be that should not be pleased. Even the Constitution should

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not be left or right. This is getting into a

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ridiculous category that we're a dangerous situation.

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It's very analogous to the debate that's going on around

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free speech. Right. I thought free speech was American values.

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That is absolutely democratic value.

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That is absolutely what is happening. It's obviously gotten out

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of We've gotten out of touch with our American way

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of life and into something that I don't know if

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we're going to be able to come back from. If

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we lose the ability to speak freely. I don't it'll

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just get worse for us. I think, and I can.

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There is a position to take that we are still

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able to speak freely. It's just what's being censored is

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our ability to be heard by large numbers of people.

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So you get tamped out, you get tampered down.

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So we can do one on one free speech to

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each other, right, Yes. What it gets back to is

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that each individual has been hyper sensitized to certain types

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of speech as being off limits. Yeah, on an interpersonal

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level as well, and that's what's driving divisions between people.

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So you and I could have this free speech thing

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and I could talk about things, but if it's put

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on a social media platform where other people can chime in.

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Then that's not a great thing, and they're trying to

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squash that.

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And maybe why is that.

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Only a certain that makes only a certain side be

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able to have it and not a dissenter. Somebody out

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there doesn't like to have dissenting views. And as we

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have heard, I've heard it from Elon, I've heard it

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from a lot of people. If you don't have what

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there's no use of having it in the constitution. If

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you don't hear the other side, it's only good for

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one side, and it's at an echo chamber if you

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hear it from one side. Free speech and Robert F.

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Candy Junior has talked about this. It only works if

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you hear from people that talk about things that you

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don't like. It doesn't really work that.

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It's not as fun when everybody agrees.

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Don't you want to see if your opinion can be changed,

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can be swayed. I don't know about you, but I

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don't I've learned a lot from people that I normally

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wouldn't have agreed with.

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If we all march in the same orders, the world's

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going to be pretty boring. Yeah, maybe that's the idea.

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Conformity.

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Conformity, that's exactly what it is.

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What is the saying conformity is the best?

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But it's alignment. It's yes, it's alignment. We're all on

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the same page.

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Yes, the same exact page, right, but.

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It may not be the exact page of truth.

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That's true.

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What you said was the danger zone, it's the true

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egg cracking.

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The dangerous era. And although I hear a lot of

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people say this is a really interesting time to be

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living in and yep, it's scary too, and I wish

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it wasn't so. I wish people didn't say, Wow, this

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is a cool time to be experiencing these things. I'm

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not so sure. I think I could have lived a

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lifetime without experiencing some of these things.

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And the bigger question is whether or not we're here

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because of technology.

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Okay, yes, that's is that a question? We are here?

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It's a little bit of a comment and a little

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bit of a question, But it's also one of the

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things that I thought about in the early days of

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the Internet was that the Internet was going to be

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a tool for all of us to connect, be together

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and to share ideas. And what it's turned out to

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be is something quite less than that. It's turned out

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to be a tool of which the powerful can attempt

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to squelch disagreement.

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Censor people that they don't agree with.

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And we've seen this growth and proliferation around what's called

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conspiracy theories, right, which everybody is kind of we can't

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have that or hate speech. But what's interesting is hate

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speech is expanding in its definition.

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Well, it depends on the day, and it depends on

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what you consider hate speech. I have a water bottle here.

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Does somebody hate the way this water bottle looks? And

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if I say I love this water bottle or is

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that hate speech because someone doesn't like it? Yeah, it's

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gotten to the point where it's that crazy. It's what

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is exactly, it's whatever a person finds offensive and hate speech, yeah,

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and it's a crazy I've never got.

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The intent of what hate speech was all about.

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No, but hate speech is. The Constitution does make it

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extremely clear that there has to be free speech for all,

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as long as it's not hurting somebody in a threatening way.

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There has to be free speech because of if you

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have just one way of thinking, then it's not free right.

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If it's closing down dissenting views, and all of a

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sudden it becomes just this like little toy soldiers marching

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in a row, and we don't have any personality. We

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can't express ourselves the way we're meant to be. And

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I do think this comes into an interesting topic, and

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I've thought about doing an episode about this, but I

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don't know if it's going to go over well. But

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I've noticed that since these things have happened with free

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speech in the Constitution, it has brought back traditional family

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values that people didn't talk about before. People everybody had

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traditional values. It's really true, you don't not to kill someone.

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There are certain values that we had in this country

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that all of a sudden are like not even paid

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attention to.

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And it's like everything's back on the table again.

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Yes, And also I've noticed that there is a resurgence

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of religion, of people saying, gosh, I believe in God,

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and that's something that people were always iffy about in

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even talking about. And I think that this is really

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what do you.

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Think that is? Is it just because people are fearful

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of the future and they look to God to provide

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guidance in their lives, to help them navigate difficult times.

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I've had. I've thought a lot about that, and I

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do think it has a lot to do with the people.

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The powers that be are just make everybody so fearful,

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just such awful vibrations going on. And I think people

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look to a higher power, and I don't necessarily like

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the word God, but look to a higher power for

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some kind of relief and some kind of happiness and

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some kind of there's help out there for me, and

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it comes from a higher power or I can't explain it.

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But I've even started to realize that I have to

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change my mode of thinking. Sometimes if you think negative,

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that's what's going to happen, right, If you think positive,

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you're going to have a more positive experience. So I

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try not to get in those low vibrational levels like

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powers that be, some of the decision makers have, they

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think very lowly of people. And it's part of it

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is knowing that there's something out there that's going to

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I know it sounds crazy maybe to some people, but

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something out there that's going to save us or save

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us all from the evil that's happening. I do think

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that people do need to know that there's a power

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out there that's greater than themselves. It's going to save them.

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I've heard more people talk about religion and God and

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power that's outside of themselves, I would say, in the

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past couple of years, because we are so inundated with

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just not nice people in charge.

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the world today is really, like many other things that

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have happened in history, have roots in religious belief, and

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this or lack of religious belief, and fundamentally that could

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be what's happening in our world right now, is that

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we're seeing a conflict really based on religion. Yes, for

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non belief is non believers tend to believe in anti

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everything things that Christians or it really doesn't matter what religion.

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It could be Jewish, it could be anything, whatever religion.

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If people believe that they have a guiding principle that

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they're living on, but if they don't, then they The

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other side of that is they create their own guiding principle,

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which does tend to be human elements that we created

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religion thousands of years ago to combat this battle that

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we have between existence and understanding or existence in the

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world and trying to make sense.

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Of it, right, It's what we've always known about Ireland.

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We've always known about there being a part of Ireland

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that was Catholic, a part that was Protestant, and there

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was this there's still going on to this stuff forever.

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It's been forever a religious battle. Now we're since I

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was a kid, since I was listening to you too.

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They were from Belfast and they believed in one religion

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and then understand why there was another, why there was

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any other religion? Why there was But now it seems

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that it's not only that was like the one prime

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example of religion fighting another religon just for religion's sake.

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I find people very nice and I don't care about

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their religion. I really don't. And now I'm finding out

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that it's more relevant and more prevalent than I actually

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thought it was. Ever.

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worshiping the same God. Yes, they just call it different names.

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That's true.

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It can be Yahweh, it can be God, Jesus Christ,

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it can be all these different names to describe essentially

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the same.

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Entity or the same entity or spiritual.

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Association that drives meaning to human existence. And there's been

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in history. There's been evil and then there's been the

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good of Christ. But there's also been an interwoven aspect

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of those two sides based on human nature.

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It's hard to separate those two sometimes.

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always had those and there's undoubtedly when the founding fathers

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wrote the Constitution, they were all very traditional religious people.

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And they were very young too, did.

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You know, Like George Washington was like seventeen years old.

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When they were very young, and of.

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Course people didn't live as long back then.

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But they were babies. They were considered babies to you

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and me. But the thing is that they, you know,

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the you know, Christian religion, and I dare say all

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religions have certain values. And in America the values.

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Are let's, you know, let's traditional values.

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Let people speak, and let's let people do what they

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do to be free, let people walk around and make

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their own decisions and protest if they want to, and

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write what they want to, freedom of the press, bare

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arms if they need that. All these things were set

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in place, and now we're finding that they're not as

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set in places as we thought they were. But there

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are a few things that are set in place, and

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that is that now, should not kill. Now should these

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ten commandments or things that are just make common sense,

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like now shall not kill or let's not kill everybody.

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You can walk down the street and be pretty sure

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that everybody understands those values. But I don't find that anymore.

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I'm a little intimidated. I'm not I see the TV

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and try not to look at it too much, but

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I see it and I see all the stuff that's

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going and I say, that's not the America that I

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grew up. And I'm sure you feel the same way.

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I'm always amazed.

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By violence as much more accepted now.

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Isn't it. I'm always amazed by what I see. I'm like,

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oh my gosh, I cannot believe someone thinks lighting a

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police station is okay, And I'm surprised that they're not

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behind bars for doing it. It's a ridiculous. That just

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wouldn't have happened twenty years ago, thirty years ago. It

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just your limits right. Everybody has the right to live

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in a nation that is that it makes you feel

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safe and secure and free. And now it's just I

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don't know, I don't know what's going to happen in

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the future.

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It's changing.

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The future is really interesting. But I go back to

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what I said. I some people have said this is

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such an interesting time to be alive. I don't know

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about you, Rob, but I'm not quite sure. I'm not

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quite sure.

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I'm not bod it interesting, but it's not good.

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Yeah, I'm not so sure, and I'm not so sure

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that we're going to end up in a good place

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if we continue down this path. It's a little scary.

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And do we have faith that we can course correct

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if we do head down a path that is course correct?

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I think was it going to take the course correct

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some of the changes that we're seeing happening in our world.

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Some people are afraid to stand up and say things.

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And I think I was listening to this journalist that's

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in Ukraine. It's all a free speech issue. And I'm

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not so sure if we go down this path there's

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a course correct. I'm not so sure because we're pretty

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far down, and because some people want this type of.

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Some people want to hide the truth because they have

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something to hide.

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And asked me about court, is there a way we

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can get back.

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On the path of what is the right path.

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They say it like we look in the future, like

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when people say, oh, I want to go back to.

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The like annoymal way it used to be.

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Yeah, I've been told time and time again there's no

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new there's no normal anyway. It's a new normal.

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You're going to have going to go back to how

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life was in the sixties. We're not going to go

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back to how life was in the seventies. We're not

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going to go back to how life was in the eighties.

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We're going to go back to how life is in

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the twenty twenties or the twenty thirties. With the change

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that we're looking to make happen is do we want

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to have human values that we've embraced and do we

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want to have a US Constitution that everybody believes in.

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Do we want to have well and take the risk

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of free speech.

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There was never even a question about the Constitution. That

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was always the main stay. That was always like something

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that was there that we knew we could count on.

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And now I see something that's very terrifying is that

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maybe we can't count on that. Maybe there are people

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that are overruling and constitution. They're saying, you know, what

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this goes back to that journalist in Ukraine. You know what,

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let's just decide his fate before he even appears in court.

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What that was never as guilty.

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We're deciding that you're guilty before you can prove that

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you're innocent.

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What.

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Yeah, that would If someone had said that to me

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even five years ago, I would have said, you are ridiculous.

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That is not the way it happens. But nowadays I'm

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finding that anything goes right. Every day is learn something new,

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and like just hitch your head and say shake your

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head and say, oh my goodness, I cannot believe what

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I am hearing and seeing it. Just every day, every

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single day, something new happens, and it's up to us

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to go going back. It's up to us to see

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what's true and what we can trust. And I do think, however,

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this is one thing that can solve everything. Is something

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that I've heard about television. Turn it off if you

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don't want to if you don't want to know all

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this stuff I've often thought about, and someone much greater

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than I was I was taking classes, said it's good

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to be informed, but do you have to be informed

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twenty four hours a day? And I'm thinking I was

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no back then, but now I'm thinking, gosh, yeah, because

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if you're not, you can you could miss something major happening.

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What's really fascinating about that is that never before have

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we had access to so much information about what's going

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on in the world, but yet at the same time,

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we just don't trust the information that we're hearing, and

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so it's an opportunity, but yet it's also an opportunity

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to be manipulated.

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And there's plenty of that going.

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And that's a big challenge. And you start looking layering

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in even more advanced technology like artificial intelligence, and we're

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just scary the people behind that that are controlling what

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information is in those platforms and those tools that increasingly

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are getting more and more use in. It raises a

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lot of questions about our access to accurate information as

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you look forward.

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I tried a chat GPT and it came out with

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a couple of brilliant depends on the questions you're asking it.

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But if you asked about one person who would say, yeah,

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they're a conspiracy theorists don't pay attention to what they

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say whatever. But if I were to ask it, this

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is interesting, This is the good side and the bad side, Right,

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you were to ask it about a doctor, Okay, doctor

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Robert Malone. Let's say, for example, come back and say

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he's a conspiracy theorist who believes this and that and

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the other thing. Don't listen to him. But you know what,

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my opinion really isn't the truth take you do your

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own research. It always has that disclaimer at the bottom

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of it. But then I asked it to it's discredit

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that's true. Yeah, But then you can also use it

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in a positive way where I asked it help me

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write an outline for a utopian book that I could write,

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and I'm telling you it came out with the name

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of the town, the name of the characters, all the

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outline of what the story was about. And I'm like, dang,

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that is pretty good. I couldn't have thought that up

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on my own if I tried, So there is good

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to it. The only thing that's bad about that is

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if you have a school age child, they could totally

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have someone have AI, have chat GPT, write a report

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for them and hand it in as their own. So

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there's a little bit of that going on. But I

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just thought it was interesting how one set of print

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like one question and it's usually a political question or

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political nature, or has something to do with something that's

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happening in the world war or famine or whatever it is.

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They'll try to flub it. And then the other one

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is you can put it, you can make it in

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for a good, you can do it for good, and

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I choose to We always choose to look at nefarious things,

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and we always choose to look at negative things first,

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but maybe we shouldn't. Maybe we should approach it in

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a positive direction. I'm always I did an episode on

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this on the things that could happen that are bad

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about AI, but why not look at the things that

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could happen that are good with AI? There are like.

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Any other technology, it's got goods uses and dangerous uses.

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I'm afraid to totally be in that park where I say, oh,

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it's great, it's cool. Yeah, I am thinking that there

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are there are some nefarious activities that could happen, and

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we should keep our eyes open and learn the truth

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and not trust everything we're heard we hear about it.

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So that's going back to our two podcasts, doing the

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research to learn what you what is your truth? What

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you believe now. In my podcast, I always say I'm

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just telling you the truth way I see it. Why

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you do your own I tell the listeners do your

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own research. I get you started. You do your own

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research and find out your own truth. And I think

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that it's probably true. With your trust factor, right, you

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learn you can trust you. You learn that you can

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go by your guy instinct, which is amazing. It really

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is amazing how that works. The gut instinct of how

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you feel is pretty accurate to tell you the truth.

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If you meet someone that is iffy, then and you

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start to feel it in your stomach and you start

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to feel a little nauseous, you probably know that's not

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a good person for you to hang out with. So

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you have to always look at that. But it's interesting

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how the two podcasts Dove tell each other in an

476
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.160
interesting way. Mine with the Truth Detective, you with trust factor.

477
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.759
You have to have trust and you have to have.

478
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.200
Truth, and it do go together.

479
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.240
That's interesting, Yeah, they do. It's quite interesting because I've

480
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.759
often used who do you trust? Who do you trust

481
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.599
in this? What truth do you trust? What? How do

482
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.240
you go about that? How do you go about feeling

483
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.119
good about what you what the truth and how you trust.

484
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:02.400
You always wondered if our understanding of the concept of

485
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:06.839
truth has been a little immature. So as you think

486
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.880
about the new world that we're in right now, where

487
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:17.640
we're blending so much artificial reality and new understandings about

488
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.680
the world and how the world works. At science, it's whatever.

489
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.880
Truth is a little bit of a concept that's a

490
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:30.920
little elusive in a practical sense and also in the

491
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:36.400
minds of many people. I think climate changes is another

492
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:43.319
example of that. One person's truth is another person's lie,

493
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:47.880
and this other person's truth could be the other person's lie.

494
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.359
So it depends on what scientists you're talking to, and

495
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:57.279
what philosopher you're talking to, or what politician you're talking to,

496
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:03.000
or what new reporter you're talking to. Right their truth

497
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:04.559
could be their understanding.

498
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.559
Things that certain people don't want you to find out

499
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.240
is the truth. They have a very good way of

500
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.839
hiding it on the internet or burying it. We saw

501
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:20.279
that at the World Economic Forum when this woman came

502
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.559
up there and came up on stage and she said,

503
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.480
when we google climate change, a bunch of things come

504
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.880
up that we're not too happy about coming up. Things

505
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.759
that kind of question it. So we've worked the algorithms

506
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:36.240
when we put our things.

507
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.599
First, partnered with Google to put our to make sure.

508
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.200
That you get what we want you to understand what

509
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:43.559
you want we want them you to.

510
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:48.599
So it's a battle over people's perception and a battle

511
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:54.160
over people's priorities and how they prioritize certain information over others. Yes,

512
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:57.720
we're saying we have the answer because we're either government

513
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.559
or we're some corporation or were some leader that knows

514
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.640
the truth, and you're just supposed to excell.

515
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.960
It goes back to Reagan. I'm from the government, and

516
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.160
I'm here to help, really tell me about that help.

517
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.079
Maybe they are it's hard to trust.

518
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:17.319
And you can see with your own eyes what's going on,

519
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:20.279
But do you trust how that got to be that way?

520
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.599
Or is it just someone you know saying at an

521
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.039
agenda that they want to happen and they're just trying

522
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.640
to trying to get you to convince you to do that.

523
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.400
It's very fascinating. I think where we are an interesting time.

524
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.160
Do I wish that we could go back? Yeah? I

525
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.799
keep telling everybody I just what would be perfect for me?

526
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.000
Is okay? I don't really mean to this extreme. But

527
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.240
if I had a landline and like a normal TV

528
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:51.279
where there was like four channels that were just journalists

529
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.680
not telling an opinion, and I didn't have a cell phone,

530
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.640
I think I would like that for a day, I think,

531
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.480
or two maybe I would be like finding other things

532
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.039
to do. I always find some interesting thing when I'm

533
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:10.160
with my mother that's not a techie thing. She's an artist,

534
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.519
and I always come back from being with her and

535
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:16.160
I always say, yeah, maybe it's good to have a

536
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.119
day where it's I'm not on social media, and a

537
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.359
day where I don't have to worry about when.

538
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.480
I'm missing like the old days.

539
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:30.160
Like the old days, like the early seventies, when it

540
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.720
was when we used to go out and play baseball

541
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.279
or whatever it was that we used to play. And

542
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.960
I keep going back, and I keep thinking, those were

543
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:44.319
the days. Everything has to progress, but it's progressing so

544
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:49.279
fast that we're missing. Sometimes I think we're missing. I

545
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:53.279
always say this, but we're missing a three D world

546
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.039
that is right in front of us, and we're missing

547
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.839
all the beauty and all the things that we have

548
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.720
for our five senses in order to pay attention to

549
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.440
our phones and what we've seen sometimes I.

550
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.079
The two D world. It's going from the three D

551
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:11.039
to two D world.

552
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.480
And it was opposite. It was always it was opposite.

553
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.279
Let's go to let's see what happens if it was

554
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.440
always so exciting. Let's see what happens if we get

555
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:20.799
these cool cell phones. We can do this and that

556
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.359
they're so smart. Yes, they're so smart. Huh, let's call

557
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:28.279
them smartphones. That is what we were always well time.

558
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.160
When phones were considered to be dumb phones.

559
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.960
Yes, that I would love to go back to that.

560
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.680
Back to dumb phone, umb phones, dumb phone. Back to So,

561
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:42.839
speaking of gadgets and technology, you've been recording this conversation

562
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.480
on a no Mono sound capsule.

563
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:46.440
What's that.

564
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.079
It's basically a device that has four microphones that connect

565
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:56.440
to a spatial audio kind of base station. Now, and

566
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.319
you can just put on a Lapel microphone the next wirelessly.

567
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.839
Yeah, you gave me the microphone, but I didn't have

568
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.759
any idea what I was doing. I just put it

569
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.680
on and you said we're ready to go, and I

570
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:11.079
was not.

571
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:13.839
Push the red button on it and it starts recording.

572
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.000
So what does that mean? Does it go into that

573
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.640
box or does it go somewhere. Does it go to software?

574
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:22.839
Does it go up to the cloud.

575
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.680
It goes up to the cloud. Ultimately, I'm also connecting

576
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.079
to the sound capsule with my iPhone.

577
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.519
Okay, so it hasn't.

578
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.799
Actually able to control it. So we're at like thirty

579
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:34.839
seven minutes, right.

580
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.200
Okay, So if that's it, I feel like I've been

581
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.839
talking to you for five hours. So you don't need

582
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.000
to control it by this I'm looking over at this

583
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.960
little box here. You don't have to necessarily. It's like

584
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.160
you can control your phone.

585
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.200
Yeah, you can control it with your phone too.

586
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.559
That's very cool. So how many microphones?

587
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.160
Does got a total of four?

588
00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:00.440
Four microphones and spatial.

589
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:04.359
Yeah, they actually be unit has I believe eight microphones

590
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.759
on it that is picking up the sound, the ambient

591
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.839
sound around us as we're talking, and in the software

592
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.480
up in the cloud, it enables that audio to be

593
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:21.279
applied to the recording to remove all that ambient sound.

594
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.640
That's what I was wondering. We can actually do more

595
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.720
than just have a microphone in front of us in

596
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:31.200
a studio that's padded and everything. It's really for the sound.

597
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:37.359
Yeah, I think it's an interesting mental juxtaposition. We're both podcasters.

598
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.799
We're both used to having professional microphones in front of us,

599
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.640
and we have this mental conditioning that you can't possibly

600
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.839
do a quality microphone ass you're talking into a quality

601
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.160
piece of equipment. You can't have a quality episode without it.

602
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.200
But I think we're reaching a point where we can

603
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.440
have the freedom to have more natural conversations without having

604
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.000
to sit in front of these microphones. We just clip

605
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.240
on these lapel mics and do the recording. Now, granted,

606
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:11.679
it does create an atmosphere that's much more organic for

607
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:15.920
organic conversation, but there's nothing to stop you from having

608
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:17.920
a script outline in front of you with a beast

609
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:20.039
of paper or something like that that you could follow

610
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.119
as well. You could do this with a video recording.

611
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.360
What you would have to do is you'd have to

612
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.199
marry the audio up with the video and post production,

613
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.280
since the processing of this happens in the cloud in

614
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:37.239
post production. This is not a live recording type of

615
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.840
a tool where you can use this technology to do

616
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.559
let's say a live stream or something like that. Okay,

617
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.519
so it's only going to work in pre recorded situations. Okay,

618
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.920
But you can set up a video camera and then

619
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:51.760
marry the audio with the video.

620
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.519
So I was watching a live stream the other day

621
00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:00.280
and the person was talking to another person, and so

622
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.639
he couldn't it was in a like a bar type

623
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:06.679
area or like a I don't know, I seen at

624
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.360
a bar where they were going to be singing and

625
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.639
everything at this stage. And so you're saying that would

626
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:16.000
be that would be a case for what you just said.

627
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:18.440
It would be a It would go right to the

628
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:23.960
cloud and you could then download the audio and the

629
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:25.400
video to marry them together.

630
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.880
Yeah. Yeah, you can do that in post production. Actually,

631
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.320
a lot of the audio editing tools allow you to

632
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.239
bring in a video. Of course, you could also do

633
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.239
this in a video editing tool too, and then just

634
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:36.400
replace the audio.

635
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:41.039
It's funny because in that scene, I saw the they

636
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.920
both had two mics, and one of the mics wasn't working,

637
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.440
and I remember thinking, let's screwed up the whole thing. Yeah,

638
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.519
so they had to share a mic, and it would

639
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.719
have been much easier if they had these cool looking

640
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.519
little microphones just hooked up and they didn't have to

641
00:35:56.559 --> 00:36:00.119
worry about the big clunky microphones that and that would've

642
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.400
been perfect. It's very organic, like you said, it's very much,

643
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:07.320
just being out and being in a real life situation.

644
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:11.480
It's it's me, But you do have to if you're

645
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.519
going to record, and if you want to record someone

646
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.880
in say Texas, and you're in New York City, that

647
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:23.079
person would have to have the microphone. Is that correct?

648
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.079
You can't really do it on a remote basis. Is

649
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.159
really an in person recording tool?

650
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.480
That's okay? That that actually works a lot. I saw

651
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.960
another I saw a Megan Kelley interview. Okay, let's try this.

652
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.760
I saw a Megan Kelley interview where she had the microphone,

653
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.719
but there were four people, four podcasters, in a remote

654
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.239
studio away from her. Could they have used the numano

655
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.000
n'mano set.

656
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:52.440
It depends if it's live or not.

657
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.079
Okay, so it was recorded.

658
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.280
You can still use it even though you're live. But

659
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.159
the only thing you're going to get is a recording. Okay,

660
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.079
it's not going to go out over the live stream.

661
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.440
But this Megan Kelly interview, it was recorded ahead of

662
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.760
time because stuff out and everything. So could they have

663
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.159
a capsule and be in Texas, She's in New York

664
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.039
and they're doing their thing. They're actually if.

665
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.119
It's being recorded, they could replace the audio that was

666
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.480
captured by the Noamano on site, and that's what I'm wanting,

667
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.280
and then replace that. It may be a little tricky

668
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:30.440
because ye Megan's audio would be in there too, so

669
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.159
it would be a little bit but.

670
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.239
They have experts at that level. There's people that actually

671
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:36.800
know really it just.

672
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.280
Might be tricky to do it that way.

673
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:43.920
I'm is that I get so nervous about being about

674
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:48.559
doing interviews, even recorded. I get so nervous, and I

675
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:52.239
think it's wonderful. I don't think it's very free. Actually,

676
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.480
I don't think I would ever have thought that I

677
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.360
could feel as comfortable as I do right now. It's

678
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.480
literally I freeze up and I even call people and

679
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:04.800
say I have to cancel the interview because I can't hint.

680
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:10.000
It's too stressful. But with Namano, with these microphones I have,

681
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.800
it's a very free flowing conversation and it's very it's

682
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.119
like we're just talking and that's it's.

683
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.760
Like this perfect situation of the kind of conversation you'd

684
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.599
have with someone like a Starbucks. And that's exactly where

685
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:26.639
you can use this too. You could use it in

686
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.960
a Starbucks, or you could use it in a hotel lobby,

687
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.800
or you could use it in whatever traditionally more noisy environments.

688
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.639
You could even use it in a restaurant and people.

689
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.280
It is terrific. And I do have to say that

690
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:46.079
I like the that idea. I like the idea of

691
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.440
just being able to sit down and chat with someone.

692
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.559
It takes the stress off of me and it makes

693
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:53.079
me want to.

694
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:55.800
Yeah, it's interesting. The psychology of that, isn't it.

695
00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.679
It is asch there. I'm very interested in the psychology

696
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.840
of it and why it exactly did that for me.

697
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:08.079
It is I think you realize when you see someone

698
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.199
that they're your friend. They're in it to get the

699
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:13.639
same thing that you're in it for. It can be

700
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.480
approached that way, and I think that this is really

701
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.760
a good tool that you can use for that. It's

702
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.920
not intrusive. I didn't even I see the box there now,

703
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.079
but I wasn't even I'm looking at you, I'm seeing you,

704
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:26.840
I'm talking to.

705
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.480
You, and that it doesn't get in the way. It doesn't.

706
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.559
It's not convers you that you're broadcasting.

707
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.800
No, it's really actually if you hadn't really said that

708
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.760
that mentioned in the box, I'm talking to you face

709
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.679
to face and it's actually very It is freeing because

710
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.000
I do normally I like I said, I'm not an

711
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.000
I do not do interview doing an interview on my

712
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.360
podcast because of that. I specifically don't because I get

713
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.840
terrified of what I'm going to say, if I'm going

714
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.119
to say the right thing. But I'm now freeing myself

715
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:04.840
up to be for it just to be a conversation,

716
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.360
which is the way it should be. In podcasting. That's

717
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.559
the best podcast you can have, is like a Joe

718
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:16.280
Rogan type podcast that's, hey, we're just two people having

719
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.960
or in this case, it could be four people having

720
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:21.320
a conversation. So that's a great thing.

721
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.000
And I still plan on using this with video recordings.

722
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.159
I've got a three hundred and sixty degree video camera

723
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.480
that I'm doing interviews with, and it creates a situation

724
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.599
where I can have two camera shoot almost so.

725
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:35.920
You've got to do both you're going to use in

726
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:36.480
a month.

727
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:42.239
In that and actually capture decent quality audio through another

728
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.840
system that I have. It's a Laphel microphone type of

729
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.199
a situation that actually will record directly to the video

730
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.039
in the three three and sixty degree camera and then

731
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:55.320
in post production I could take the audio from this

732
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:59.440
and replace it, so it's almost like a redundant audio solution.

733
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.280
I have heard of that being done, like they overdubbed

734
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.480
the If you don't have good audio, they can just

735
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.119
swap it up right, And that's a great thing. I

736
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:13.760
do think that's exciting. What is the What as the

737
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.159
price of end of mone because I want to purchase

738
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:16.639
one now?

739
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.480
Of course they're about twenty five hundred dollars currently right.

740
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:21.639
Now, recently sign me up?

741
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.679
Do it? Yes, let's do it.

742
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.880
Let's do it. The thing is, if you find something

743
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:27.880
that's easy that's going to make.

744
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.840
If you can afford it, and I think there are

745
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.599
lots of situations. I think people would be surprised. Truly

746
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:38.039
a revolutionary there's nothing else that I've been a audio

747
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:42.159
content greater for over twenty years, and every situation that

748
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:44.960
I've been in to record a podcast or do a

749
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.360
radio show has been this complex recording situation. Had to

750
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:53.800
be in like a sound proof studio, or had to

751
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:58.000
have this expensive microphone or hows had to be aware

752
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.960
of the acoustics of any space that I was in,

753
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.199
and you just created a lot of stress going into it.

754
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:07.360
That's what I say, But the thing is, this is

755
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.039
the way I look at it, is that if I

756
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.960
obviously I think we pretty much both would agree. Maybe

757
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:23.679
is that interviewing podcast with interviewing is has a value,

758
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.360
a different value than just a solo podcast.

759
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.519
And if you could use this solo podcast, but.

760
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:36.440
If you told me that I would gain sponsors or

761
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.719
doing something with interviews, then I might find it well

762
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.480
worth the twenty five hundred dollars to do that. If

763
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.480
I knew that I would gain people coming to my

764
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.360
podcast my episodes because I had Rob Greenley on The

765
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:55.039
Great Rob Greenley on Who Knows About Stuff? Or if

766
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:01.599
I can position it like interviews that I Seth Godin

767
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.119
or Joe Roe, I could say, hey, they're going to

768
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.639
be on, and you can say you'll get a really

769
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.920
good audio podcast or episode out of this, and you'll

770
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.239
get more revenue or you'll get more downloads because of

771
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:20.159
the interviews you're doing. That it really twenty five hundred dollars,

772
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.000
Maybe it may be worth it to me to have

773
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.920
that goal in mind of getting Yeah, it's not.

774
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.960
A stretch if you really back up and you think

775
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:33.159
about how much you typically have to invest in the

776
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:37.199
same capability of this with more traditional recording methods with

777
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.960
a if you start thinking about the cost of for

778
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.199
sure SM seven B microphone, how much with that? Sure,

779
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.519
that's right, there are going to be two thousand dollars

780
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:51.480
just for those microphones. It's not a stretch to think

781
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:55.719
that this could replace the entire studio setup.

782
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.559
And if you said, if you were to say to me,

783
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:03.719
and I'm saying to myself now, I'm I'm actually loving

784
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.599
having this conversation, this interview or whatever it is that

785
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:08.719
we're having conversation.

786
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:10.599
Yeah, I just like to call it conversation.

787
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.559
It's not now, it's this conversation. And if I were

788
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.840
to think along the same lines as people come to

789
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:21.440
the episodes thinking I'm gonna gonna get new information, it's

790
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.679
not going to just be the same old staff. It's

791
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:26.280
going to be Steff talking to somebody, and that's going

792
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:29.119
to make her more attractive, that's going to make her

793
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:32.559
sound better, and it's going to expand the audience from

794
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.440
that that are coming in and listening. Obviously, if you

795
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:40.119
have someone like Jordan Peterson, and then there's gonna be

796
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.280
an attraction there. And so it could grind to a

797
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.800
point where it's more revenue right for you and more

798
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.480
of something, more downloads, more of opportunities, So it would

799
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.199
be worth spending the money. You have to weigh the

800
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:59.280
options where if I find that I'm doing something different

801
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.880
with my episodes, I'm willing to take that chance. I'm

802
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.920
willing to if I find that I can get something

803
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:11.000
out of interviewing people and gather an audience that really

804
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.760
likes the people that I'm interviewing, there's no question it's

805
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.559
worth It's worth the cost. Yeah, what I always have

806
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.559
gotten in the past is how can you email me

807
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:26.480
the questions that you're going to ask? Yeah, that's that

808
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.800
doesn't help anyone, because in it's planned and you like

809
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.079
to have the conversation go where it's going to go.

810
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.159
It's risky too. I've done hundreds of interviews, and usually

811
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.480
the good interviews don't follow an outline, right, They actually

812
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:46.360
listen to each other, and they actually respond back and forth.

813
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:50.639
They contribute value from both sides. It's just not a

814
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:56.519
one sided conversation, which has been typically what people have said.

815
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.039
If you're a good interview, you ask a question and

816
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:05.239
you shut up. But that's not necessarily in some situations. Hey, yeah,

817
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.679
they are that makes sense. And I think one example

818
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.239
of I think I've seen a couple of RFK interviews

819
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.800
were a very prominent interviewer was like quiet. The whole

820
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.199
interview was just RFK talking.

821
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.719
And that's cool because you want to.

822
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:21.679
Get here what this person has to say.

823
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:26.400
Yes, because of his he's a candidate for the big office,

824
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:28.199
as we say, and.

825
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.000
His family has such a history, and.

826
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.960
His family has such a history the more American Camelot

827
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.800
kind of scenario. Everybody love as close to royalty as

828
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.039
America could get as the Candy family. So you want

829
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:45.079
to capture that all the time. You want you want

830
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.360
to get as much as you can out of it.

831
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.679
And he is a wealth of information. My gosh, I

832
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:55.360
didn't even He's talking about things that are amazing, and

833
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:57.760
you don't want to miss a second. I don't blame

834
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.840
the person that's talking to him just keeping quiet, because Tucker.

835
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:04.559
I mean silent.

836
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:06.760
You don't want to be like, I'm going to stop

837
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.480
you there because I have a question. Don't stop him

838
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.880
because you're going to miss something important. And he has

839
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.719
so much information. And that's the kind of the way

840
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:19.559
I would approach someone like that.

841
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.960
I just ask one question of getting started.

842
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.079
Tucker Cross and interviewers. I think he asked him like

843
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.760
two questions a whole, and one of them was really

844
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.519
like he had dinner with Mike Pompeo. I think it

845
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.039
was he and Tucker was like, what, wait a minute,

846
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.360
and then but then it went on and on and

847
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.480
he talked for another ten minutes. It was really quite amazing.

848
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.719
But that's another thing that I noticed is that if

849
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.599
you're really good at interviewing people, it is a conversation

850
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.159
and you know when to stop, and you do, absolutely

851
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.960
I believe, have to listen. If you're having a conversation

852
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.199
with someone, you have to listen because you know it's

853
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:07.079
going to be your turn next to say something or

854
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:07.800
to ask something.

855
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.280
And it's always a journey too. It's like I've done,

856
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:16.639
even in this conversation, ideas come into your head while

857
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.159
a person is talking, and you're kind of like stacking

858
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.639
up the potential responses or comebacks whatever, and it does

859
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.519
distract you from listening. What the magic is to be

860
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:32.559
able to listen and then only grab one thing right,

861
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.800
so you're not spending all your time trying to come

862
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.159
up with new ideas and not listening. So all you

863
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.079
do is you just grab one thing and you hold

864
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:42.760
on to that and you continue listening. And I think

865
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:47.440
that's the trick to doing a good conversation versus an interview.

866
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.599
And a lot of people will prepare with an outline whatever,

867
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.119
and they'll have ten questions that they want to get through.

868
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.320
But my experience with it is that I maybe I'll

869
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:58.320
get through two of them.

870
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:03.000
So now my big question you is that with this device,

871
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:07.119
are you going to be going to be interviewing or

872
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:07.599
having a.

873
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:11.599
Conversation that's going to be who knows?

874
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:15.000
That would be tremendous and that would be right up

875
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.320
his allies to be able to just have a microphone

876
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:19.760
that's on his lapel.

877
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.320
Yeah, I could do it with I could do all

878
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.760
these interviews with a three in er sixty degree camera.

879
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.400
That would be something if you were to get that.

880
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:29.960
Kind of learning how to do it, because I've done

881
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.119
a couple of interviews already with my three sixty degree

882
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:37.239
camera where the camera sits in between me and the subject. Okay,

883
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.239
and it just goes it bounces back.

884
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:40.960
Does it not to bounce back and forth?

885
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.519
No? I tell it to bounce back and forth.

886
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.000
Based on the conversation before the conversation post production, oh

887
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:47.840
it is okay.

888
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.800
So as far as the visual element of.

889
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.039
It, okay, so you late, you put the camera on a.

890
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:55.719
Stand like a little tripod, and.

891
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:57.679
Then you have the conversation.

892
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.119
Got a lens pointed it me and a lens pla.

893
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.320
Okay, so it's a double okay, So that's.

894
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.320
What I want to It's got two lenses, so.

895
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.239
It's not like really going around three hundred.

896
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:11.920
Sixty degree it's actually recording three literally three hundred sixty

897
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.519
degrees around the whole time.

898
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.400
Okay, So what you want to what you're going to

899
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:18.960
do in post production is just get Okay, I'm just.

900
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:22.079
Gonna say I'm flipping the views back and forth, all right.

901
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.119
So you're gonna get you first, and then RFK Junior,

902
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:29.159
which I hope at some point you can maybe playing

903
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:29.760
around with it.

904
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.400
Then I can match up this audio with the video,

905
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:36.320
got it, okay, or I can just do just straight audio.

906
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:39.039
So I'm gonna likely I think this is a perfect

907
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:43.480
fit for my Spoken Life podcast, which is probably where

908
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.159
all these interviews are going to go, all these conversations.

909
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.000
Well spoken, it's not.

910
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.159
A video show, it's it's an audio program.

911
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.400
Okay. So we won't have a video component.

912
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.679
Of spoken life now, Okay, it's like.

913
00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:59.400
A trust that's a trust factor thing, got it? Okay?

914
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:03.960
That that is interesting and I have in my I've

915
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.360
been thinking about my episodes and what I'm doing is

916
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:11.000
I'm doing an audio component to the episode and then

917
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:14.559
I'm doing a video that that goes along with the

918
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:19.159
same theme of the audio episode, but I'm showing different

919
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.679
things websites or whatever it is. And I'm I think

920
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.840
that's interesting to have both both components. And I don't

921
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:29.320
know what to call if you just called a pod.

922
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.800
If you still call the video a podcast episode, it's

923
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.320
podcast because the video will also be put out as

924
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.199
an audio podcast episode too.

925
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:42.719
You can just take the audio out of it, right. Yeah.

926
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:44.880
So I'm a little I'm still working on it, but

927
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:48.400
I am very impressed with this device that I have

928
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:53.840
on right now, this microphone. I think it is going to.

929
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:56.159
If you want to see more about it, check it

930
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:58.920
out go to no mod dot Co.

931
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:05.480
Had spell no mon n o m o n o. Okay,

932
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.280
so it's so as I say no mono right, so

933
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.960
as I say no mono right.

934
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:16.039
And it's spelled literally no n o mono m.

935
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:19.400
O n O Okay, so it's no Mono, but it's

936
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.400
no Mono dot co okay, not dot com.

937
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.239
You have to know that because if it's dot com

938
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:27.360
you'll get lost some.

939
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:31.599
Yeah, there's also the information there pictures, video demos that

940
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.880
show it in the contrast between a noisy recording and

941
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.280
a no model recording.

942
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:41.760
Yes, I did see that, and it's quite interesting to

943
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:45.159
see the differences. And you can just change it and

944
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:46.440
that's it.

945
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.719
So that's really I feel really exciting, lucky and fortunate

946
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.960
to be one of the first to have access to this.

947
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:57.360
The capsule, this platform is it. They call it a

948
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:58.280
sound capsule.

949
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.320
Sound capsule is the actual device name. And then there's

950
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.280
the Namdo cloud, which is where all the post production

951
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.239
processing happens.

952
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.360
And can you point to that cloud? Can you actually physically.

953
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.920
Say that cloud floating by.

954
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.559
Is actually the cloud that has your information.

955
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:20.480
It's usually on your computer screen.

956
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.000
It's not an actual cloud. No, you can't point to it.

957
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.199
If you could point to it on your screen.

958
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:30.039
That would be amazing. If you could go outside and

959
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.760
say that's the one cloud that has information on it.

960
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:34.639
And there is a mobile app that comes with it

961
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.519
too that you can monitor you can start and stop

962
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:41.760
the recording. You can see which of the microphones that

963
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.679
you're using. In this case, we're using the blue and

964
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:46.800
green microphone.

965
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.519
I was wondering why mine was blue on yours with green.

966
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:54.639
And then the actual sound capsule or the base station

967
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:56.800
is called a space.

968
00:53:56.519 --> 00:54:00.840
Recorder, is there? What is the thing about the Is.

969
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.239
This an assignment so you know which microphone is?

970
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:07.559
Okay, I've enjoyed this. This is great. It's so easy

971
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:12.119
to do, and it sounds like it's fun to use. Yeah,

972
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.000
it would be fun for me to get over my

973
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.320
stigma about having.

974
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:20.159
Worry about your microphone.

975
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.360
Yeah, and all that's and also the actual talking to

976
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:29.639
people in conversation because I get so frazzled and nervous.

977
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.920
It's very easy to it's actually easy to forget that

978
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:34.840
you're you actually have a microphone.

979
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.639
You should also, I think with a device like this,

980
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:39.880
I think it's possible and you could probab people can

981
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.559
do this if they want to talk to their elderly

982
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:46.280
parents and be able to record that. But that could

983
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.920
be done even with your smartphone too. But this type

984
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:54.360
of a device could be used for documenting your family history.

985
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.320
Or honestly I've thought about that, and I wish I

986
00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.480
had done that with my father, and maybe I should

987
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:02.280
start doing that when my mother has start docu. My

988
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:06.000
mother has such interesting tales and I never even I

989
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:09.199
didn't even. I guess maybe I just tuned it out

990
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:12.800
when I was younger. Now that she's getting older, she's

991
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.920
coming out with more and more things. I'm like, did

992
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.159
that really happen? Oh my god, I didn't know that,

993
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:21.360
But I wish I had it on some kind of Yeah.

994
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.440
You could record it back and listen to it when

995
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:26.360
they're gone, because all of our parents will be gone

996
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.760
and will be gone some days, and if we had children,

997
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:30.440
they could listen to us.

998
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:32.960
So that's a good thing for that too, Right, it.

999
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:35.280
Could be used for that. And I would think that

1000
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.159
at some point in the future that there'd be a

1001
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:39.840
version of this that would have like maybe only two

1002
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.280
microphones or something like that. Yeah, that would be quite

1003
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:44.320
a bit less expensive.

1004
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:49.400
I noticed I was having a conversation yesterday and and

1005
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:53.199
follved about six people, and I noticed that everybody was

1006
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:56.039
on a different plane of thought. So if you're on

1007
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.079
the same if you're if you know ahead of time

1008
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.840
we're going to talk about this, or if there's a

1009
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:05.480
person that's in charge of what are leading the conversation,

1010
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.039
they can lead it to be like this and there's

1011
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.480
not a bunch of people stepping on other people's words.

1012
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.280
And there's not, so it's you can control it more.

1013
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:18.079
If you're actually in person with that, with a group

1014
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:20.199
of people, you can I think you have more control

1015
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:20.519
over it.

1016
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:24.360
Yeah, and each of the microphones does have the potential

1017
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:25.840
recording to a different track.

1018
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:27.280
That's very much so.

1019
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.519
In the software, you can edit each track separately.

1020
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:33.760
And so you wouldn't feel like you're stepping on the

1021
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:36.480
words of someone else. Could you do that? Could you

1022
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:40.719
edit like when that is so create a.

1023
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:43.599
Little bit more of a gap in between those conversations. Yeah,

1024
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.079
I believe you should be able to do that.

1025
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:49.159
That's great. This is a great system. It feels well,

1026
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:50.800
it feels good, it looks good.

1027
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:54.559
Thank you, Sephany for Thank you so much for recording this.

1028
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.679
I've enjoyed. I've been wanting to talk to you and

1029
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:00.679
have you. I have this conversation. It's about our two

1030
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:06.159
podcasts and about this new no Mono system, and I

1031
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:11.199
heard about that and it's great. I was I love

1032
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:14.440
this conversation and it's I hope we can do it

1033
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:15.159
again sometime.

1034
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:21.400
Go to Truthdetective dot com if you want to know. No, wow,

1035
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:22.360
I got it wrong.

1036
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.519
Only slightly. It's truth Detective.

1037
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:30.760
Podcast podcast dot com only because truth Detective was taken, so.

1038
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:32.360
I somebody else is doing it too.

1039
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:37.159
Truth Detective podcast dot com. If you want to email

1040
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:41.199
me with any suggestions or questions or topics that you'd

1041
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:43.679
like me to do research on, it's the same thing,

1042
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.679
Truth Detective Podcast at gmail dot com, so I always

1043
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.119
feel free to do that as well.

1044
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:50.519
Right, sounds great.

1045
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.000
So thank you so much Rob for thank you for

1046
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.199
having me and for talking to me. And I feel

1047
00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:00.000
very privileged range of topics. Yes, I feel very privileged

1048
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.239
guy lucky that I actually got to to do this.

1049
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:07.800
So thank you much, thank you very much. Alrighty bye everybody,

1050
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:18.119
Bye bye.

1051
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:24.840
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1053
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