Sept. 21, 2026

Say the Weird Thing: Embracing Laughter as Medicine with Ann Marie Taepke

Say the Weird Thing: Embracing Laughter as Medicine with Ann Marie Taepke

You’ve probably heard of The Holderness Family. (And if you haven’t…what rock do you even live under?) But you might not know Ann Marie Taepke, the incredibly funny, smart, abundant human helping make the magic happen behind the scenes. As Chief...

You’ve probably heard of The Holderness Family. (And if you haven’t…what rock do you even live under?)

But you might not know Ann Marie Taepke, the incredibly funny, smart, abundant human helping make the magic happen behind the scenes.

As Chief Marketing Officer and producer for The Holderness Family, and the hilarious creator behind Midwest Neighbor, Ann Marie knows a thing or two about creating content people connect with.

We talk about going viral, adult friendship, finding humor when life feels heavy, taking the leap before you’re ready, God winks, giving yourself grace, and why sometimes 85% done is more than enough.

Come meet the woman behind some of the internet’s favorite humans. Turns out, she’s pretty freaking cool too.

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So like that's another thing too like say the weird

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thing like you don't know maybe why that popped into

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your head i'm not saying that like anyone is psychic

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or anything like that but like maybe.

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The universe is trying to push you in a certain.

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Direction so.

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Anne-Marie Tapke is in the house.

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Hello.

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Friends, I am so happy. I am so happy Anne-Marie

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is here and I'm so happy for you to meet

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her and for you to just kind of be a

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bug on the wall, if you will, for two ladies

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from the Midwest having a chat about life, liberty, and

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the pursuit of happiness. Just two gals. Just two gals.

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Two gals catching up over their coffee at noon.

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Coffee at noon. Cheers. I love that I added a

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teeny bit extra Midwest accent to my cheers. So Anne-Marie,

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you have quite a story. And I normally start these

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episodes off by kind of reading through a little bit

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more of like a history of your life. And instead

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of doing that, I thought maybe you should tell us.

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So like if you were meeting you for the first time,

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which I know a lot of us know you already

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as our Midwest neighbor friend, you know, but if we

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were meeting you for the first time, how would you

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kind of introduce yourself to people that aren't already aware

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of your awesomeness?

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You're very kind. Thank you. I'm going to do the

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Midwest thing where like, anytime you compliment me, I'm going

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to immediately be like, Oh no, no, no. Um, but yeah,

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that's a great, yeah, no, yeah, no, you're so you're,

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it's too much. Um, Really good question because I meet

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people and sometimes they don't know the lore of how

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I got started. So my current job is that I

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am the chief marketing officer and producer for the Holderness family,

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Penn and Kim Holderness. They're fabulous. I have been working

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with them actually since 2014, which a lot of people

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don't realize. So I've been with them quite a long time.

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Once upon a time before they were the family they

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are now, they had an agency that I worked at.

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They actually kind of stole me away from another agency

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to work for their company. And then they joked that

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they stole me twice when they needed me then for

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their family brand. So they've taken me with them. And

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I feel very, very grateful. I met Penn even before

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that when he was a news anchor. So when I

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worked at that first agency, they would have people come

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on the news because this is such a crazy time.

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They would be like, what's everyone saying on Twitter? Like

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someone had to come and tell you what everyone was

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saying on Twitter. You couldn't just read it yourself apparently.

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So I would, I, there was like, I was maybe

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like eighth in the pecking order for this particular weekend.

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And they were like, do you want to go? Cause

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none of us can go. And I was like, yeah,

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I'll go. And that's when I met Penn and we

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kind of developed a rapport. He was like, I love

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having you on cause you talk fast and I talk

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fast and we can cover a lot of ground. And

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so It was actually him when they decided to branch

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off and do their own thing that he then contacted

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me to be like, let's just have coffee. Let's pick

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your brain. And that turned into a job interview. So

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when people ask me what I do, I do work

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for them full time. I help write things. I help

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manage their business. I also have this other side of me,

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which is kind of my story for my whole life,

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which is I'm the very theatrical person. I've always been

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in the performing arts. And so Um, I would always

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do this crazy Midwest voice, uh, just as a bit, um,

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at work. And one day Kim and I were arguing

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over a snowstorm coming and she's like, it's going to

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get really bad. And I'm like, no, it's not Kim.

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And I was just being very silly about it. She's like,

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that's a video you need to come over. We're going

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to shoot that. So that's how the Midwest neighbor was born.

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I remember that.

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I just talked for a long time.

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This is not a place. This is the place we

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take up space on purpose. So you have, you can,

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you have all the runway you want my love. Um,

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and I remember that video, which is so funny because

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I remember, because of course in the South, cause Kim

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and Penn live in South Carolina, North Carolina.

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We are all in North Carolina. We're in the Raleigh area,

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Raleigh area. Right. I'm originally from Michigan. I'm a Michigan gal,

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but yeah. Right.

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Okay. So, and that's where, is that where your Midwest

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influence comes from is, is being a Michigan girl.

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It does. I grew up in Michigan, but only till

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I was like right before kindergarten. And then I moved

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around a lot as an elementary school kid. I lived

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in Southern Illinois. I lived in West Texas for.

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And I think being exposed to different areas of the country,

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I kind of like learned that there were accents and dialects.

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And so I didn't really understand it when I moved

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back for middle school and high school college years. But

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definitely when I moved down to North Carolina, I could

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hear it. Like when I would go back to visit

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my family, I could hear it. And that's kind of

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where that was born. Although if you ask my cousin,

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I have a very, very big Catholic family. And my

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cousin and I went to the same college. So when

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I started doing that voice, he was like, oh, I'm

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so glad that voice finally got a home. And I'm like,

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what are you talking about? And he was like, Amory,

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you've been doing that bit for like a long time,

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like at parties and stuff. So I don't know. I

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went to college in mid-Michigan and it attracted a lot

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of Wisconsinites, people from the UP. And I think maybe

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I just picked it up just along the way, along

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the journey.

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Well, it's funny because you nail it, first of all.

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You do nail it because the people in the Raleigh

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area versus the people where I'm from in Milwaukee would

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prepare for a snowstorm very differently. And it's almost like...

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So I thought you nailed it and I... based on

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just not knowing as much of your lore as I

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thought I did, I would have thought that you were

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like born and raised in the Midwest. So you are

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a very talented, like you said, theatrical person. And I

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love it. And I'm wondering though, as a theatrical person

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and as somebody that, you know, that friend that said like,

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or cousin that said like, well, I'm glad this finally

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found a home. Did people... call you too much? Like

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where you like felt like treated like you were like

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all these big feelings, what are you doing? Like tone

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it down. Did that, was that part of your journey?

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A thousand and 1%. That is, oh, I still feel

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like I'm too much as an adult. I have to

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remind myself to like pause, listen, like, don't be too goofy.

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And I'm like a mom in her 40s. And that

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is crazy to me that I do feel very comfortable

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in my own skin. Let me get that point clear.

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But I do feel like sometimes, especially in new situations,

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I have to kind of, you know, don't let's not

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weird them out. Not everyone wants to be weirded in,

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you know what I mean? So like I, yeah, I,

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I always felt that way growing up. Um, I was

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never like a popular kid, but I was never unpopular.

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I was kind of fringy. I was a very fringy

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person that would float around to different groups. I mean, I,

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and that's kind of my personality now. I like different things.

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I have different pockets of people for different interests that

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I have. Um, but yeah, yeah. I, I always probably

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felt like I was taking up a lot of space.

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And I was a little bit of a goofball and

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still am.

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Well, I was going to say, it's a strength though.

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Like I think of it as something that you, you know,

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you have kind of turned it into a superpower by

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leaning in and having it become part of what you do,

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which is really cool for people that do have that,

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you know, they are told they're too much. And, you know,

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I think there's a certain blessing and just leaning in

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and deciding, you know what, this is who I am.

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And that's okay if people see me as too much,

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because this is what I've turned into what I do

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for a living. And that's really, honestly, that's a cool

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transition point to me to be able to kind of

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convert something that maybe people might see or perceive as like, oh,

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she says too many things and she uses too many

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words and she thinks everything is a joke. And it's like, well, yes, and...

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you help people feel seen because people can relate on

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a very human level to, to, to being all of

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those things. So my question, and you kind of alluded

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to it a little bit, and I'm just curious about

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it because you said, you know, you're a mom and you,

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you work through these things. So when you, people recognize

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you as like the holderness, the gal behind the holderness family,

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like the creative genius behind the holderness family, people recognize

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you as the Midwest neighbor. But they may not even

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really realize who is Anne-Marie when you strip all those

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things away. Who is Anne-Marie? Talk us through that.

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That's a really good question. I ask myself every day. No.

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I think I'm a multifaceted person. If I could just

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rewind the tape a little bit. Not in your edit,

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just in this discussion, I've always had two sides of

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the of my brain that I like to exercise. So

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when I graduated high school, I really wanted to be

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a theater major. I did a lot of musical theater.

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It was, like I said, it was very theatrical. I

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always loved making people laugh for like the homecoming sketches.

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And so I was always in them. I was wearing,

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I would dress up as whoever you wanted. I would

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do bits from Saturday Night Live. I would do like

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all these goofy, silly things. Um, but I do feel like, um,

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I'm also like a pretty deep thinker. Like I can

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kind of get lost in my own thoughts. I do

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surprisingly really enjoy like analytics and numbers and I I

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get into that as well my parents this is going

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to make them sound like they're not supportive they're extremely

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supportive but my parents were like listen you can always

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do theater in your life you need to make sure

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that you have something that you do after high school

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that you can make money at like and and theater

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can always be a thing you do and it can

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be whatever like the the you can basically pursue it

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at whatever level you want, but we want to make

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sure that you get something you can fall back on.

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So they encouraged me to go into business or I,

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we kind of like work together and marketing seemed really

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interesting to me because again, I was that kid that

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could always remember all the jingles on TV and all

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the commercials and like, and I, and I would, you know,

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come up with silly things. Like I, with my sister

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and I, we would pretend to like do infomercials and stuff.

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So I thought that was interesting. And that's really how

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I've carried my whole life. When I really stop and

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think about it is I have this business side that

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I do with pen and cam and I love it.

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I really, really love my job. I do a lot

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of work behind the scenes that I really enjoy, but

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I get to also do this other side thing where

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I play this really goofy character. Now, is that confusing

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to people on LinkedIn?

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Yes.

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And I wrestle with that sometimes too, where it's like,

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I'm trying to be super professional business lady, but now

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I'm doing a crazy voice. But I guess that is

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just me. That's just who I am. And I don't

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think people maybe get worried about, oh, like you said earlier,

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am I too much? Should I even project this side

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of myself? I think you should because people are really interesting.

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Like there's a lot of different layers. Everyone's an onion.

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And I think it's fun to peel back the layers.

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Nice Shrek reference. Everyone is an onion. Indeed.

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Everyone's an onion.

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It is so fun to peel back the layers. Um,

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I got layers. I just hear donkey's voice as, as

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all it's, it's like a, it's, it's, it's in my

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head and it won't leave. Um, but you know, but

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you have spent years like behind the camera. So creating

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and producing and strategizing and helping other people shine. So

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what is it required of you to believe that you

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belong in front of it too?

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I'm like, I'm not really feeling it right now. So

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the Midwest Neighbor thing took off. I'm very happy it did.

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Even before that, I've done different types of like kind

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of between the college stuff. I was still doing a

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lot of musical theater when I graduated college and went

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to my first job.

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I really hated it.

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So I did improv comedy. I took like a whole

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improv comedy. I had a team for a long time

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I was on. I've tried standup comedy. So like, I've

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always had something going on kind of over here that

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like fulfills my creative and performing arts need that I

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always have. Or I've like helped teach or something. Like

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I've always had something over there. But yeah, there's days

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when I just don't feel that into it. I think

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that's okay. It comes, there's a lot to put yourself

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out there. It's a lot to put yourself out there.

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It's a lot to produce content by yourself. It can

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be really lonely, especially if you're a team oriented person.

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I really like working on a team. Sometimes it's hard

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for me to self motivate to get stuff done on

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my own. But yeah, the Midwest Neighbor, like I said,

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it took off. It's been really fun to do. And

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it's spun off into me being able to do bits

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with other creators. I've done stuff with the Ubecha channel,

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with Charlie Barron's, with Lauren Midwest. I've done some stuff

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with some really fun creators. And that's opened a really

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cool door for me. Um, but yeah, I mean, sometimes

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I have to remind myself and not get so stuck

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in my own head of like, it's just like, I

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keep repeating myself, but it is very vulnerable to put

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yourself out there. And sometimes it's okay if you don't

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feel like it. I don't know. I don't know if

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that's a good answer, but it is like, it's a

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constant thing. I think that anyone who is, has any

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sort of public, I use that air quotes, um, Cause

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it doesn't have to be doing crazy videos. You could

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be doing anything, but when you're putting yourself out there,

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there is a vulnerability to it.

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And you're using humor as a tool. I think like

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that's a, that's a part that's a, it's important part

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of it because we, okay. We love Charlie Barron's hello.

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And Lauren is amazing too. So I had a really

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cool opportunity to meet Charlie. I don't know if he's,

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if he would remember, but we met at a, at a,

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it was called, it's called small pie in Bayview, Wisconsin.

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And we just had like, we shared a coffee and

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we had a chat and this was kind of legitimately

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before things really exploded for him. So it was really

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just cool to see him outside of the Charlie Barron's

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character and just being himself and goofy. And it was,

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that was really funny, but I want to know, cause

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humor is a huge part of everything we're working through

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and talking about. So what can humor do for us?

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Like how does humor work for us? in a way

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that seriousness and thoughtfulness can't.

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I think it gets people through hard times. I think

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it defuses and deescalates situations. I can't tell you how

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many times like my husband and I will be like,

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not really having a argument, but more like a disagreement.

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And if one of us cracks a joke, like it's over,

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it's not that serious. It's fine. The temperature gets taken down.

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I think humor is a really underrated tool, even in like,

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the business world that makes everyone feel at ease. Um,

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I wish that it, and, and it doesn't have to

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be mean. I think that's the biggest thing is like

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people think of like humor and making a joke at

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someone else's expense. I don't see comedy and humor that way.

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I love making myself the butt of the joke, um,

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to deescalate something or just, you know, really like sitting

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with someone in the situation and be like, this sucks.

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Like I think that and just kind of making a

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joke of that. I think that's really helpful. I don't

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something about being Midwestern, too. I feel like whenever there

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is tragedy and or like someone passes or something, I

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do feel like people find a way to laugh and

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to remember and to bring up stories. And and and

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humor is a huge part of that. I think it's

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what helps us cope and connect us in times of

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struggle and in times of joy. So I think humor

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is such such an amazing tool.

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And it's a tool you use to reach millions of people. Like,

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I don't even know what the, what the analytics are,

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but the, the millions of people that are touched and

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reached by, it's funny you said 2014, was that Christmas

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jammies time? Like, was that around? Cause I can't remember exactly,

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but was that Christmas jammies?

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I just had my first daughter and I remember I

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was like, it was, I was in the throes of

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brand new motherhood where you're just kind of locked onto

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the couch. Cause you're like nursing them and you're just like,

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you're just doing everything for them. And I literally like

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my jaw hit the floor because Penn, who I just

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done stuff on the news with, was dancing on my television.

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And I was like, this is crazy. And I remember

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sending him a note being like, I know you're getting

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a million messages, but like, this is so fun. This

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is so funny. And I didn't hear from them to

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have that meeting until like two or three months later,

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just because they were so inundated with so much stuff.

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And it's the holiday season. It's busy. But yeah, it

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was right after that that I started working with Penn

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and Kim.

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And they had a business partner as well. This video

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went crazy. Sorry to interrupt you, but it went crazy. No,

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you're fine. We need help. So continue with the story.

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They're like, what do we do?

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And, you know, buttoned up business Anne-Marie. I was like,

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I'm here. We got that hat.

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We got that hat. We got the Midwest Neighbor hat.

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We got the mama hat. We got all the hats.

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But the, but the idea of reaching millions of people

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on the internet in a time when it's gotten harder,

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I feel like in the last 10 years to get

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that kind of reach, what do you think is most

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important for people who are creating content to understand about

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the realness behind the numbers? Like, I think a lot

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of people get stuck there and they're like, well, you know,

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my podcast only had 83 views last week. And that's like, oh,

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but what, What has seeing those kinds of numbers taught

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you about what really matters behind all the numbers?

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These are really good questions. And I can think of

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like three ways to answer this. Just one is, you know, viral,

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things going viral is a very subjective word. So back

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10 years ago, something going viral, I feel like really

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meant something that was like literally everyone and their mom

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is seeing it. That's a Christmas jammy situation. But going

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viral now, there's so many little niche pockets of interests

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and people and like, so you could go viral. Let's

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say you have a gardening channel, like maybe 50,000 views

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for you. That is viral. Like it does not have

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to be millions and millions of views. Also, be careful

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what you wish for. Anything that we've had go really,

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really crazy off the rails is I mean, you're attracting

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now people who aren't necessarily they they're getting served your

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content that they don't necessarily want to see your content.

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And sometimes the comments can get really mean. Again, using

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humor to defuse situations. Sometimes we would joke like, oh,

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we're growing. All the haters are here. We're getting new people, guys.

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And like that was just a way for us comedically

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to deal with, like sometimes very mean and rude comments

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that people make. I don't, I believe if you were

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to meet this person in real life, they would not

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say that to you, but they're hiding behind a keyboard.

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So yeah, I, I also like, I think of John Green, um,

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just because I'm a big fan of his. And I

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recently listened to an interview that he had talked about

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the tale of two videos. So he had one video

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that was very flippant that kind of went viral on

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accident and he wasn't super like, it got so much

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engagement and he was like, it's a 10 out of

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10 video. I should be thrilled. And he's like, but

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I'm really excited about the one out of 10 video

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over here that reached this like really selective audience that

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like got a really positive message across where this one

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was kind of interpreted a little bit more negative. So like,

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I think your goals don't have to be that you're

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getting a million views.

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Views.

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I also, I don't follow her count, like to me

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doesn't super matter anymore. It's great to have, it's great

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to see that number go up. If you are in

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a position where you're trying to work with brands, that's

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a really great like point to like something to point to,

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to say I have this many people. But the reality

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is such a small percentage of that number gets served

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your content. It's almost just like you just have to

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look at piece by piece.

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Yeah. That's what I've encountered, at least with In the

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last few months, I don't know if you've seen any

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of my videos in the last few months, but in

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the last few months, I've gone viral a few times

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for my emo rollercoaster gal videos. And these videos are faceless.

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It's a POV. I'm wearing my meta glasses, safely taping

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my POV on rollercoasters. I try to always be in

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the front row, which my kids get annoyed with because

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they're like, mom, we have to wait longer for the

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front row. But I wait for the front row.

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I know. You're like, I'm working. They're like, okay. These

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are conversations I have with my kids all the time. Totally.

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It's for the work, guys. But also for fun because

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it is better in the front row, by the way.

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But anyway, so these videos are going crazy. And what

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I appreciate is that my follower count is modest. And

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the people that are finding my content as of right

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now are are the people that should be finding my content.

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And I know that, I know that that's something that

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happens when you have something viral is usually you're reaching

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people beyond your scope. And that's when those haters and

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trolls and all the, all the bad things can happen

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so far. Fortunately for me, knock on wood, literally, cause I'm,

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I worry that the people have been so sweet and

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so kind and so perfect. They, the algorithm is doing

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its thing in helping them find the things that they're

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looking for, which is, strangely and awkwardly and terrifyingly me,

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they want more me. And I, I'm, I'm down for it.

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I'm ready. I'm like, let's go.

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Are you guys sure?

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I know, but that like, you know, there's the thing like,

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cause I, you know, I, I, I too, and I've been,

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I've been, I've been working through a lot of feeling

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like I'm too much or, you know, I use too

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many words to say something or I laugh or giggle

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when I'm uncomfortable. And maybe that's not the most professional

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thing to be doing. And, you know, just, there's just

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these different edits that I've been making over the course

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of time. And some of it happened through corporate America,

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which I'm I don't know what the word is going

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to be. I was going to try to be politically correct,

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but like, I'm okay that I'm not in part of,

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I'm not part of corporate America anymore because corporate America

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and I just don't, don't drive. I'm, I'm, I am

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too much, I think for corporate America in general. So,

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and I can, I can admit that, but the, the

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virality of things really, when you strip it away, the

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cool part to me has been the connection that can happen.

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Like the actual real connection that can happen on the

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internet with real humans is who are not those keyboard warriors.

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And of course the keyboard warriors exist and we, you know,

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they have their place in, in the story. Like you said, like,

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Oh look, we made it. We, we got some hate,

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you know, but it's so nice to have it be

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this connective thing. And that's actually like something that I

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think really resonates with me through your content is there's this,

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this underlying theme of like adult friendship. And that can

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be hard for people like adult making friends as a grownup.

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is so fun.

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I love it.

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Like I love make, I literally make a friend every,

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I was at Six Flags Great America last night. And

469
00:23:33.430 --> 00:23:35.740
would you believe I made friends with the two guys

470
00:23:35.779 --> 00:23:37.160
that were waiting in line with me. And then they

471
00:23:37.180 --> 00:23:38.799
ended up waiting in line with me at a different ride.

472
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:40.799
And we ended up, it's a whole thing. I am,

473
00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.500
I love making friends, but I know that it's not

474
00:23:43.660 --> 00:23:46.640
easy for everybody. I know that it fills my cup

475
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.700
and makes me happy and has, it's like a joy

476
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.859
creator for me. So I want everybody to be able

477
00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:55.440
to make friends as an adult. So based on what

478
00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.440
I know about you and your content and how you

479
00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:01.720
also are a believer in adult friendship, what do you

480
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.609
think we misunderstand that we could do better as like

481
00:24:04.650 --> 00:24:06.730
we're trying to make more friends as grownups?

482
00:24:08.130 --> 00:24:10.950
Yeah. I mean, the easy default thing is like you

483
00:24:10.970 --> 00:24:15.430
just kind of like kind of suss out like your kids, friends, parents.

484
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.059
You're like, are you cool? Are you cool? Are we friends?

485
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:20.099
That's like the lowest hanging fruit.

486
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.680
Um, but we love that.

487
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:25.519
We do. No, no, no. Like I've actually met some

488
00:24:25.539 --> 00:24:28.279
really amazing people through my kids' friends, but I, um,

489
00:24:28.380 --> 00:24:31.579
I think as an adult and making new friendships, I've

490
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:35.380
really tried to, um, surround myself with people who like,

491
00:24:35.539 --> 00:24:38.059
I feel good when I'm around them. Um, and I,

492
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.420
and I make them hopefully feel good too. I try

493
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.869
to make them laugh and, and feel, you know, like

494
00:24:42.950 --> 00:24:45.529
I appreciate their, their time. And, um, I really like

495
00:24:45.589 --> 00:24:48.019
spending time with them. So sometimes that means that your

496
00:24:48.059 --> 00:24:51.059
friend circle is not huge. And I think that's okay.

497
00:24:52.019 --> 00:24:54.930
I've also put myself out there in different situations, different

498
00:24:54.990 --> 00:24:59.349
interests that I have. Doing stand-up comedy, I did it

499
00:24:59.390 --> 00:25:01.170
for about three years. I'm on a little break right now.

500
00:25:01.829 --> 00:25:04.930
But I've met so many amazing people through that that

501
00:25:04.970 --> 00:25:07.670
I never would have met that aren't even necessarily like

502
00:25:07.809 --> 00:25:10.650
fellow moms or even my age. But now they are

503
00:25:10.710 --> 00:25:14.029
my friends. And I do like they just they kind

504
00:25:14.069 --> 00:25:15.890
of know me. They know a different version of me.

505
00:25:16.250 --> 00:25:18.650
And I like that. Like I like that we can

506
00:25:18.690 --> 00:25:21.920
talk about stuff that's not always. kids or work or like,

507
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.099
you know, and they just make me laugh for funny people.

508
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.670
And I think you can find that anywhere. Like if

509
00:25:27.730 --> 00:25:30.210
you have something that really interests you, like just trying

510
00:25:30.230 --> 00:25:32.730
to make that connection with people and like put yourself

511
00:25:32.789 --> 00:25:34.950
out there, be like, do you ever want to grab coffee?

512
00:25:34.970 --> 00:25:36.779
You're so fun. I had someone do this to me

513
00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:38.460
recently and I was so blown away. And I like,

514
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.579
I loved it. We met kind of just by happenstance.

515
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.680
We were both like kind of like fringe friends of

516
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.440
the friends that were together. And we just ended up

517
00:25:46.509 --> 00:25:48.549
talking so much. And she was like, what are you

518
00:25:48.589 --> 00:25:50.410
doing next week? Do you want to grab coffee? And

519
00:25:50.430 --> 00:25:53.930
I was like, yes. And I think in any other world,

520
00:25:53.970 --> 00:25:56.349
we both would have just been like, okay, so nice

521
00:25:56.390 --> 00:25:58.369
to meet you. But we did, we met for coffee

522
00:25:58.390 --> 00:25:59.890
and we're going to meet up again. And we're not

523
00:25:59.950 --> 00:26:04.009
like everyday texting friends, but I love that making new

524
00:26:04.029 --> 00:26:07.369
connections of someone that I just happened to cross paths

525
00:26:07.410 --> 00:26:10.650
with that we enjoyed each other's company. So I would

526
00:26:10.670 --> 00:26:12.990
say like putting yourself out there and And being like

527
00:26:13.130 --> 00:26:16.230
having a small circle is that's okay. It's okay.

528
00:26:16.250 --> 00:26:16.390
Yeah.

529
00:26:18.029 --> 00:26:20.549
Well, and when you have a small circle, you're more

530
00:26:20.589 --> 00:26:25.519
likely to have relationships of impact and relationships that matter. And,

531
00:26:25.630 --> 00:26:28.240
you know, looking at your relationship with Penn, for example,

532
00:26:28.259 --> 00:26:29.839
like I don't want to lead the witness here with

533
00:26:29.859 --> 00:26:32.539
this question because it's not like, it's not, it's not

534
00:26:32.579 --> 00:26:37.240
that deep, but there's something there about opportunities and relationships

535
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.319
and how you, you know, they kind of feed each

536
00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:44.559
other both ways and, And I'm, I'm curious. And again, I, I,

537
00:26:44.619 --> 00:26:46.880
I may have already answered the question, but who is

538
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.640
somebody that saw something in you before you could see.

539
00:26:50.460 --> 00:26:55.779
It in you? Yeah, I could even go back before, um,

540
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.940
like the whole, you know, Penn and Kim, um, my

541
00:26:59.980 --> 00:27:02.940
first job, I really didn't like, it didn't super end well.

542
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:04.539
And I was out of work for a while and

543
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.839
I felt really low, like to have a college degree

544
00:27:06.859 --> 00:27:09.470
and and then to get fired from your first job.

545
00:27:10.549 --> 00:27:12.349
And you thought you were doing a good job. And

546
00:27:12.750 --> 00:27:16.680
I am, I pride myself, I'm a good worker. But

547
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.339
it just was not the job for me. And I

548
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:20.220
think that's okay. But I didn't think it was okay

549
00:27:20.259 --> 00:27:22.660
at the time. So I was like waiting tables and sad.

550
00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:25.670
And I was learning about social media because it interests me.

551
00:27:26.829 --> 00:27:30.039
And I was interviewing like crazy. And I I'm so

552
00:27:30.460 --> 00:27:33.400
lucky because my like unemployment checks were literally going, it

553
00:27:33.420 --> 00:27:35.329
was like on my last week when I got my

554
00:27:35.589 --> 00:27:37.730
job that ended up, I think really led me to

555
00:27:37.750 --> 00:27:41.769
where I work now. But I just remember like throwing

556
00:27:41.789 --> 00:27:43.529
it all on the table. Like I was having really

557
00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:45.970
good interviews. I kept getting called back and they were like, yeah,

558
00:27:45.990 --> 00:27:47.390
you just don't have like a lot of experience in

559
00:27:47.430 --> 00:27:51.410
this thing. And I was like, okay. I was like,

560
00:27:52.930 --> 00:27:55.079
at the risk of sounding like a cheesy Disney movie,

561
00:27:55.890 --> 00:27:58.200
I promise if you give me a chance, I will

562
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.250
not let you down. And the owner of the company

563
00:28:02.269 --> 00:28:04.450
who had sat with me on that interview gave me

564
00:28:04.490 --> 00:28:06.289
a chance. And I like to think that I didn't

565
00:28:06.309 --> 00:28:09.190
let him down. And I really learned a lot at

566
00:28:09.230 --> 00:28:12.430
that job. He did say like the weirdest part about

567
00:28:12.450 --> 00:28:14.529
me saying that was one of the clients they were

568
00:28:14.549 --> 00:28:17.339
pitching at the time was Disney Interactive. So he was like.

569
00:28:18.140 --> 00:28:20.009
it's kind of weird that you said that. And it

570
00:28:20.029 --> 00:28:22.390
always sat with me. So like, that's another thing too.

571
00:28:22.430 --> 00:28:25.650
Like say the weird thing. Like you don't know maybe

572
00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:27.529
why that popped into your head. I'm not saying that

573
00:28:27.569 --> 00:28:31.000
like anyone is psychic or anything like that, but like maybe.

574
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.119
The universe is trying to push you in a certain direction.

575
00:28:34.140 --> 00:28:37.839
So I, I would say that he saw something in

576
00:28:37.900 --> 00:28:41.950
me that I really, was at least saying I could do.

577
00:28:42.009 --> 00:28:44.569
I probably did believe it deep down, but, um, you know,

578
00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:47.130
I was like thrilled when I, when I got that job. Um,

579
00:28:47.470 --> 00:28:49.359
and I feel really grateful for that.

580
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.259
You're speaking my language when you said the universe is

581
00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:58.460
pushing you in a direction. I absolutely believe. And I,

582
00:28:58.619 --> 00:29:01.579
and I, and I, I, I step back and say, okay,

583
00:29:01.819 --> 00:29:03.609
I have a friend who taught me this thing that

584
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.849
I need to share, which is Gus, which is God

585
00:29:06.369 --> 00:29:10.859
universe source spirit. And I am super faith-based. I am

586
00:29:10.940 --> 00:29:13.500
big into my faith. My viewers and listeners know this.

587
00:29:14.220 --> 00:29:16.319
And I recognize and respect that I want this to

588
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.359
be a safe place for everybody. So you said the

589
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.380
universe is sometimes nudging you. And that to me, when

590
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:27.279
you said that about Disney, 100% was Gus's work, right?

591
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:28.960
Like that was like Gus at work.

592
00:29:28.980 --> 00:29:30.960
That was a God wink. Like that's a God wink.

593
00:29:30.980 --> 00:29:33.210
My best friend and I always say that. We always

594
00:29:33.269 --> 00:29:37.000
like when something happens, we're like, that was a God wink. Yes.

595
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:37.539
Look around.

596
00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:40.299
A God wink. For sure. Tell me about more of

597
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.579
that in your life. Where else has that shown up

598
00:29:42.619 --> 00:29:42.940
for you?

599
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:44.779
Oh my gosh.

600
00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:47.319
In big ways. Like, I mean, obviously sometimes it's not

601
00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:49.359
a big way, which, and sometimes those little ways are

602
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.930
the coolest ones, but tell me where else these God

603
00:29:52.950 --> 00:29:53.930
winks have happened for you.

604
00:29:55.190 --> 00:29:56.960
Oh my gosh. Yeah. I feel like you're going to

605
00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:59.599
have to edit my long, long pause while I'm thinking

606
00:29:59.619 --> 00:30:02.049
of what I'm going to come up with.

607
00:30:02.150 --> 00:30:03.589
What profound thing am.

608
00:30:03.730 --> 00:30:06.509
I going to say? Actually, you know, what's funny is

609
00:30:06.549 --> 00:30:09.349
that I don't edit these that much, but because it's

610
00:30:09.390 --> 00:30:11.710
like real, you're a human being and you deserve to

611
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.279
think for a second on these questions, which I do

612
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.299
put a lot of thought, time and energy into. So

613
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.779
it's okay to think for a minute. I've given you

614
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:20.079
a minute.

615
00:30:20.829 --> 00:30:22.769
Are we there? You've given me a minute. You've given

616
00:30:22.809 --> 00:30:24.470
me a minute. I talked us through it.

617
00:30:24.569 --> 00:30:26.839
I don't know if my talking helped or hurt the situation.

618
00:30:26.859 --> 00:30:27.740
No, I'm joking.

619
00:30:28.420 --> 00:30:28.759
I'm joking.

620
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.799
Maybe like, okay, when my husband and I started dating

621
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:35.420
each other, we realized after comparing notes that we had

622
00:30:35.579 --> 00:30:39.789
actually been in the same room like half a dozen

623
00:30:39.829 --> 00:30:43.109
times before. Like we literally had been like, wait, I

624
00:30:43.150 --> 00:30:45.009
was there. No, I was there. I was with these people.

625
00:30:45.150 --> 00:30:46.890
I was with these people. Wait, they know each other.

626
00:30:47.630 --> 00:30:49.569
So we were like, oh my gosh, have we met?

627
00:30:50.049 --> 00:30:54.289
like a half a dozen times before now. So that's,

628
00:30:54.349 --> 00:30:57.049
I mean, that's a God wink. That was like, the

629
00:30:57.069 --> 00:30:59.690
universe was real annoying with us. They were like, get together.

630
00:31:00.190 --> 00:31:04.470
Would you stop? Like, just listen already. And I do

631
00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:07.670
wonder that sometimes, like we talk about universe, God wink, whatever,

632
00:31:07.730 --> 00:31:10.170
whoever is holding the gavel, like wants to just like

633
00:31:10.230 --> 00:31:12.650
beat us sometimes, like you're missing the point guys.

634
00:31:14.289 --> 00:31:15.990
But there's not getting the point here.

635
00:31:17.789 --> 00:31:20.710
But there's your husband. And that's so cool. How long

636
00:31:20.730 --> 00:31:21.329
have you been married?

637
00:31:23.349 --> 00:31:26.210
We have been married. We got married in 2010. So

638
00:31:26.289 --> 00:31:27.289
we've been married 16 years.

639
00:31:27.930 --> 00:31:33.210
Congratulations. That's not a small thing in this era of life.

640
00:31:33.809 --> 00:31:35.890
And you know then that you have to like fall

641
00:31:35.930 --> 00:31:39.029
back in love and like work hard. And it's not

642
00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:42.069
always an easy road. And my husband has been my rock.

643
00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:46.099
And like we've been together forever. goodness. I don't, I

644
00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:48.220
don't do the math, but more than 20 years, I

645
00:31:48.460 --> 00:31:50.980
was kind of a baby when we met, but we

646
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.900
have fallen, you know, out and in of love in

647
00:31:54.029 --> 00:31:56.730
love a few times. And it's just totally this normal

648
00:31:56.769 --> 00:31:59.089
thing that has to happen. But I love how you

649
00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:01.250
lit up when you talked about your husband and I

650
00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:04.309
know you have kiddos. What has being like a mama

651
00:32:04.390 --> 00:32:07.339
and a wife taught you about who you are?

652
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.980
I think it's really put into perspective, like what's important

653
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.819
in my life. like they are like my family is

654
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.380
the most important. And I really look at a lot

655
00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:20.859
of decisions I make professionally or personally, like how does

656
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.740
that impact the family? Because they are, they are the

657
00:32:24.859 --> 00:32:29.420
most important people in my life. And I mean, I

658
00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:32.759
think it's made me having three kids. Like I always

659
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.180
tell people, like if you're debating, if you have two

660
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.380
and you're debating a third, just do it. You know

661
00:32:37.420 --> 00:32:40.279
why I've been, I became such a more chill parent

662
00:32:40.380 --> 00:32:44.019
when I had three. Cause I'm like, well, everything's crazy now.

663
00:32:44.299 --> 00:32:47.269
I felt like when I had two, I was a

664
00:32:47.269 --> 00:32:49.490
little more like, okay, it's got to be like this

665
00:32:49.589 --> 00:32:52.170
and this. And then something about that third kid, you're

666
00:32:52.210 --> 00:32:55.390
just like, I don't know. If not everyone's smiling for

667
00:32:55.410 --> 00:32:59.339
the picture, it's fine. The Christmas card's going out. Something

668
00:32:59.390 --> 00:33:04.059
about it, it's just totally chill. So yeah, it's taught

669
00:33:04.099 --> 00:33:08.000
me a lot. I feel really blessed, even though I've

670
00:33:08.019 --> 00:33:11.259
always had aspirations of like, wanting to do, you know,

671
00:33:11.619 --> 00:33:14.400
big things with my life. Having a family has always been,

672
00:33:14.420 --> 00:33:17.500
I think, the most paramount thing. So I feel really,

673
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:20.779
really fortunate to have my husband, have my three kids.

674
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:21.880
They're all wonderful.

675
00:33:22.660 --> 00:33:24.940
I love that. And they've all made you who you

676
00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:28.039
are in ways that we all appreciate and love in

677
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.319
content form and elsewhere on the internet.

678
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.720
So kids are so funny.

679
00:33:33.259 --> 00:33:33.559
Yes.

680
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:38.549
Like sit down and like pick their brain. Kids are hilarious. Um,

681
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.160
my comedian friends who don't have kids, they're like, oh,

682
00:33:41.170 --> 00:33:44.130
you have so much material. So mad. You said, talk

683
00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:45.950
to your kids for five minutes and you have a bit,

684
00:33:46.450 --> 00:33:48.529
but like it, not even, it's not even that. It's

685
00:33:48.569 --> 00:33:50.630
just that like, they say the funniest things. I feel

686
00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:53.150
like I can't write them down fast enough. My middle daughter,

687
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:54.799
she told me at, she was at dinner the other day.

688
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.299
We almost like snorted out our waters. Um, then she

689
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.900
said this, she goes, guys, I always thought an inside

690
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.990
joke was a joke. You could tell inside. She literally thought, like,

691
00:34:08.170 --> 00:34:10.750
inside joke meant, like, you don't tell it outside. And

692
00:34:11.349 --> 00:34:13.360
we're like, oh, my God.

693
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:16.699
That's a bit.

694
00:34:16.780 --> 00:34:19.780
It's not that funny, guys. But, like, that was so.

695
00:34:19.820 --> 00:34:23.320
We were tickled. We were so tickled. And my youngest son,

696
00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:26.079
he's learning, like, what a figurative speech is. So, like,

697
00:34:26.699 --> 00:34:28.420
we'll be like, don't have a cow. And he'll be like,

698
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:33.659
that would hurt. And we're like, yes, figurative speech. Like, we, like, it's.

699
00:34:34.380 --> 00:34:38.030
Kids are so hilarious. They're just really funny.

700
00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:41.420
And they're getting older, darn it. How old are they?

701
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:48.179
I have a middle schooler, older elementary, and middle elementary.

702
00:34:48.219 --> 00:34:49.119
So yeah, they're getting older.

703
00:34:49.579 --> 00:34:53.019
I hate that part because our roles change a little

704
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.840
bit and the relationship changes a little bit and the

705
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.659
jokes will change a little bit. And as a middle

706
00:34:58.699 --> 00:35:04.280
school mama, my boys are 11 and 12 and they're,

707
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.010
they're boys who are 11 and 12. So it's a

708
00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:10.510
lot of six, seven. It's a lot of six, seven.

709
00:35:11.050 --> 00:35:14.809
And it's, it's just, it's just, yes. And it's just, um,

710
00:35:15.369 --> 00:35:17.190
it's less, it's a lot of things that are less

711
00:35:17.250 --> 00:35:19.510
funny than, than they used to be a little bit.

712
00:35:19.550 --> 00:35:22.570
But as some of that changes, I feel like I

713
00:35:22.989 --> 00:35:25.820
obviously evolve and change too, like as their mom and

714
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.510
as their parent, And I'm wondering, like, what are you

715
00:35:28.550 --> 00:35:32.130
finding out about yourself right now, like, in this season

716
00:35:32.429 --> 00:35:34.630
of who you are and who you are as a

717
00:35:34.670 --> 00:35:38.349
mom and a, you know, a creative person? What are

718
00:35:38.389 --> 00:35:40.650
you finding and learning about yourself now that you didn't

719
00:35:40.690 --> 00:35:42.469
know maybe 10 years ago or when you kind of

720
00:35:42.570 --> 00:35:45.139
got started with, you know, Penn and.

721
00:35:46.539 --> 00:35:46.800
Kim?

722
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.460
Yeah. Like, what I'm learning about myself as a mom

723
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:56.449
definitely is– like everyone's doing their best. Um, even, even

724
00:35:56.510 --> 00:35:58.369
I'm doing my best. There's days where I am not

725
00:35:58.409 --> 00:36:01.369
killing it, you guys. And I think that's, again, you can,

726
00:36:01.449 --> 00:36:04.050
people can talk about that. Like Instagram, social media, it's

727
00:36:04.070 --> 00:36:07.949
a highlight reel. It's not real life. Um, but it's, it's,

728
00:36:08.510 --> 00:36:10.929
I always try to make sure I'm just treating my

729
00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:13.719
kids like they're like, they're, they're people. I know they're children,

730
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.400
but like they're, they're real people with feelings and dreams

731
00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:20.050
and desires. And I always try to like remind myself

732
00:36:20.139 --> 00:36:22.760
of that. Um, and so I don't always, I just

733
00:36:22.780 --> 00:36:24.519
try to do my best to not so much a

734
00:36:24.539 --> 00:36:26.480
dental parent them, but like really understand where they're coming

735
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:29.179
from and kind of like work with them together on solutions.

736
00:36:29.619 --> 00:36:32.659
So I think it's made me like more patient, more collaborative, um,

737
00:36:33.420 --> 00:36:35.980
with my children. Uh, Kim and I joke about this

738
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.940
all the time. It's like, it's so crazy when your

739
00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:40.739
kids make different choices than you would have made. You're like, wow,

740
00:36:40.980 --> 00:36:44.079
I wouldn't have done that. But, and you did and

741
00:36:44.099 --> 00:36:46.420
that's okay. Like it's nothing wrong with it, but I'm

742
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.699
just like, wow, that was a choice. Um, so yeah,

743
00:36:49.739 --> 00:36:52.760
I think it's made me more patient, more collaborative, more understanding.

744
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.059
And that bleeds into, you know, my work as well.

745
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.400
Was there a time when it was hard or too

746
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.949
hard to find the funny and like, what did that

747
00:37:03.989 --> 00:37:07.449
teach you? Cause like, I think that we are in

748
00:37:07.489 --> 00:37:10.969
an era like just in life and in general that

749
00:37:11.469 --> 00:37:15.170
feels heavy and you can, you can scroll, you don't

750
00:37:15.190 --> 00:37:17.710
have to scroll far to have like, Oh, there's that.

751
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.480
And oh, there's another thing. Oh, there's more news. Oh,

752
00:37:21.539 --> 00:37:25.500
it's Aaron Parnas. You know, breaking news. It was like

753
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:26.400
every five minutes.

754
00:37:26.659 --> 00:37:30.739
Oh, my gosh. We don't need Aaron. Don't do this

755
00:37:30.780 --> 00:37:33.389
to me, Aaron. Aaron. Stop.

756
00:37:33.409 --> 00:37:34.449
Aaron, take a nap.

757
00:37:36.650 --> 00:37:39.050
How do you... Show us more pictures of your daughter, Aaron.

758
00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:44.170
Right. I'm going to need to link to his content

759
00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:45.949
for people that don't know what we're talking about. But

760
00:37:46.050 --> 00:37:47.659
I don't know who doesn't know who Aaron is.

761
00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:47.860
But.

762
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.139
Yes. He's doing really good work.

763
00:37:51.539 --> 00:37:54.820
He's doing amazing work. To summarize his work, he summarizes

764
00:37:54.860 --> 00:37:57.139
a lot of news clips and news bites that are

765
00:37:57.179 --> 00:38:00.880
happening in real time. And he's very intense, but not

766
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.619
too intense. And he delivers it in a very practical way,

767
00:38:03.659 --> 00:38:08.380
which most of us can understand and comprehend. But that aside,

768
00:38:08.539 --> 00:38:11.340
we do have things and we do have moments in

769
00:38:11.409 --> 00:38:16.070
life where it can feel hard to find the funny, right?

770
00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:18.670
It can feel hard But I want to know if

771
00:38:18.690 --> 00:38:21.309
there's a time like that that happened to you slash

772
00:38:21.409 --> 00:38:23.449
I say for you, because I always think that these

773
00:38:23.489 --> 00:38:26.800
things happen for us, not to us. But what did

774
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:30.539
it teach you about what laughter can't fix, but maybe

775
00:38:30.579 --> 00:38:31.579
can help us carry?

776
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.500
You know, COVID was really, I hate that's such a

777
00:38:36.539 --> 00:38:41.469
cliche answer, but I think we all, especially like I

778
00:38:41.489 --> 00:38:44.369
feel fortunate for what I got to do in COVID,

779
00:38:44.409 --> 00:38:46.650
which I'll get to in a second, but it was hard.

780
00:38:47.690 --> 00:38:50.269
It was hard to find the funny. Um, and, and

781
00:38:50.329 --> 00:38:53.389
funny comedy is my defense mechanism. Like that, that's how

782
00:38:53.530 --> 00:38:57.269
I process heavy stuff. So even, and there were days

783
00:38:57.349 --> 00:38:59.579
on that where I'm like, I don't even know what,

784
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.199
where it is. Like, I, I feel lost. I feel

785
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.420
like I'm, you know, you're in this prison of your

786
00:39:05.460 --> 00:39:08.679
own home and you feel like you don't know when

787
00:39:08.699 --> 00:39:11.420
the next shoe is going to drop. Um, there's so

788
00:39:11.460 --> 00:39:13.539
many unknowns. You're trying to put on a happy face

789
00:39:13.570 --> 00:39:16.809
for your kids. You can really apply those feelings to

790
00:39:16.829 --> 00:39:21.469
a lot of things in life and feeling really trapped.

791
00:39:21.829 --> 00:39:25.309
I think like defense mechanisms, I think they get talked

792
00:39:25.329 --> 00:39:27.389
about negatively. I think as long as it's a healthy

793
00:39:27.429 --> 00:39:30.460
defense mechanism, it's okay to lead into that. like your

794
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.079
defense mechanism could be that like you like to bake

795
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:35.719
like if you're stressed you're baking and I think lean

796
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:40.760
in make the cake like so I I challenged myself

797
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.500
in times because comedy is my defense mechanism um And

798
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.380
obviously I did other things too. Like I would try

799
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.329
to exercise more, walk and like ground myself in nature

800
00:39:50.349 --> 00:39:53.510
and things. But like I would challenge myself, even if

801
00:39:53.550 --> 00:39:56.869
it wasn't funny, I would try to like write one

802
00:39:57.730 --> 00:40:00.780
like funny observation about anything. It could be the most

803
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.820
mundane thing. That's the other thing too, is I think

804
00:40:02.860 --> 00:40:05.179
that especially with Penn and Kim and our work with

805
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.280
the Holderness family, and I have to also mention Sam

806
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.039
who works on our team. So there's four of us,

807
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.050
but like we find humor in very, very mundane things. Um,

808
00:40:13.369 --> 00:40:17.250
because sometimes that's all there is. Everything else is too

809
00:40:17.289 --> 00:40:20.050
heavy and you have to make a joke about your

810
00:40:20.070 --> 00:40:24.380
blender or something's really, really stupid, like so low stakes stupid,

811
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.519
but you feel like other people at least can be like, yeah,

812
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.139
I do that too. And I would try to challenge

813
00:40:30.179 --> 00:40:32.159
myself to come up with one of those funny observations

814
00:40:32.219 --> 00:40:35.409
every day if I felt really low. Um, so I

815
00:40:35.429 --> 00:40:37.050
don't know how that applies to other people and how

816
00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:39.949
they deal with things. But I do feel fortunate in

817
00:40:39.989 --> 00:40:43.949
COVID that we challenged ourselves as a team to make

818
00:40:43.969 --> 00:40:47.070
a new video every day for at least, I mean,

819
00:40:47.090 --> 00:40:49.210
I don't want to say we went through 100 days

820
00:40:49.250 --> 00:40:50.929
of it in a row, but it felt like it.

821
00:40:51.769 --> 00:40:54.800
And we turned into, this is where the Detroiter in me,

822
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.320
I was like, we're getting an assembly line going, guys.

823
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.440
Just like we're at the Ford Motor Company. I was like,

824
00:41:00.460 --> 00:41:02.980
so we all had a job, like a single job

825
00:41:03.019 --> 00:41:05.469
that we would do in this cog. And maybe you

826
00:41:05.489 --> 00:41:08.769
had another job over here, but we had steps and

827
00:41:08.809 --> 00:41:11.469
we just rinsed and repeat every single day. And we

828
00:41:11.829 --> 00:41:14.389
put out a new video almost every day at the

829
00:41:14.409 --> 00:41:18.340
start of the pandemic. And that helped us get through

830
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.360
the hard times because we were just able to just

831
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.519
channel everything into being creative. We allowed ourselves to be really,

832
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.119
really silly. Like, I want to know what love is.

833
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.960
I want to know what day it is. Parodies. I mean.

834
00:41:32.739 --> 00:41:35.219
That's just what we did so I guess going back

835
00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:37.340
to like whatever your defense mechanism is as long as

836
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:41.199
it's healthy I think lean in I think do it

837
00:41:41.219 --> 00:41:43.619
if that's what gets you through then that's what gets

838
00:41:43.659 --> 00:41:45.019
you through and it's okay.

839
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.800
For me it's daily gratitude like I stop and I

840
00:41:49.820 --> 00:41:53.599
get grateful for something silly like I I'm grateful for

841
00:41:53.619 --> 00:41:56.420
this this little candle it has the cutest little pug

842
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.219
on it that you can't see it's by a local

843
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:03.869
artisan called the positively pug is the name of the company.

844
00:42:03.889 --> 00:42:06.130
And it makes me so happy. And I'm sitting here

845
00:42:06.170 --> 00:42:08.760
talking with you thinking about like, Oh, they think up

846
00:42:08.780 --> 00:42:11.840
that cute little candle going, but it's, it's little things

847
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:13.800
like that, you know, like, and, and like you said, like,

848
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.900
it's not, it doesn't have, I think so many of

849
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.400
us overthink it. And like, you know, it has to

850
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.769
be this like big elaborate production and it can just

851
00:42:20.809 --> 00:42:24.289
be a joke about a blender or like, you know,

852
00:42:24.309 --> 00:42:26.429
we went to Costco, but it's a lot of these

853
00:42:26.469 --> 00:42:29.170
different like things that are very real for people and don't,

854
00:42:29.329 --> 00:42:32.909
you know, it doesn't require much effort or energy, which

855
00:42:32.969 --> 00:42:35.409
is awesome. So just like do more of what comes

856
00:42:35.550 --> 00:42:38.179
naturally to you is what you're saying. And that is,

857
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:41.619
it sounds so simple and yet we take it for

858
00:42:41.659 --> 00:42:45.639
granted sometimes. So I want to know in that era,

859
00:42:45.739 --> 00:42:47.760
maybe it's not in that era, but just in general, like,

860
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:53.179
is there, or was there as a creative person, you understand, like,

861
00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:56.179
You put your heart and soul into something and you're like,

862
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.139
this is it. This is the one. I feel like

863
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.739
I know what you're going to ask. Tell me the

864
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.460
one that didn't go, right? Or more than one because

865
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.699
I want to help it go. Let's shine a spotlight

866
00:43:09.739 --> 00:43:13.389
on those undervalued, underappreciated moments.

867
00:43:13.409 --> 00:43:16.329
I don't know if it needs a spotlight. I don't know.

868
00:43:16.449 --> 00:43:22.909
Maybe it's okay. Maybe it's okay that it didn't go. Okay.

869
00:43:22.929 --> 00:43:25.210
This is pre COVID, but, um, I always think of,

870
00:43:25.349 --> 00:43:27.030
and I hate to, I know I'm using a lot

871
00:43:27.050 --> 00:43:29.559
of whole learners family examples, but you have to understand

872
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.179
that I'm like a creative partner with them. We write

873
00:43:32.820 --> 00:43:35.900
everything together. Um, if, if, if I'm not the one

874
00:43:35.940 --> 00:43:38.500
that wrote it, um, we're definitely helping like yes and

875
00:43:38.539 --> 00:43:41.099
punch each other up and, or I'm at least producing the,

876
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.159
what it looks like. Um, we had this music video

877
00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:46.980
back in, I think it was 2019 and it was,

878
00:43:47.019 --> 00:43:50.500
it was called Will You Be a Model? And it

879
00:43:50.539 --> 00:43:52.940
was an original song that Penn wrote that we had

880
00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:55.059
talked about how like, and it's kind of a bait

881
00:43:55.099 --> 00:43:57.920
and switch. So you think he's talking about dressing up

882
00:43:58.099 --> 00:44:00.599
all sexy for Halloween? Can I, I don't know if

883
00:44:00.619 --> 00:44:02.519
I can say sexy on your pod. Believe me if

884
00:44:02.579 --> 00:44:05.429
I can't. But then he's talking about really like being

885
00:44:05.489 --> 00:44:08.309
a role model. So it's like, he's talking about like

886
00:44:08.389 --> 00:44:10.449
how hot it is that you're going to be like

887
00:44:10.570 --> 00:44:13.710
Amelia Earhart and like all these different like prominent women

888
00:44:13.750 --> 00:44:17.929
of history. It was so funny to me. And it

889
00:44:17.949 --> 00:44:19.389
was like one of those things where I'm like, oh

890
00:44:19.409 --> 00:44:21.610
my gosh, this Bane Switch is like hilarious and it's

891
00:44:21.650 --> 00:44:26.269
comedically really, really funny. Crickets. Crickets. To the point where

892
00:44:26.289 --> 00:44:27.789
we're like, we must have just hit it at a

893
00:44:27.809 --> 00:44:30.300
bad time. And like the next year we re-shared it,

894
00:44:30.309 --> 00:44:36.269
we're like, it was going to hit. Crickets. So those are,

895
00:44:36.289 --> 00:44:38.110
I mean like, and we spent a lot of time

896
00:44:38.150 --> 00:44:40.800
and energy on that. And that happens, we always joke

897
00:44:40.860 --> 00:44:42.719
if we spend no energy on a video, we're like,

898
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:44.079
this is going to be the one. This is going

899
00:44:44.099 --> 00:44:45.929
to be the one everyone loves. And then like the

900
00:44:46.050 --> 00:44:48.230
other one that we've like, we have like shot sheets

901
00:44:48.269 --> 00:44:50.170
and we have like extras coming and we've got like

902
00:44:50.269 --> 00:44:52.929
times and locations. We're like this one, nothing's going to,

903
00:44:52.969 --> 00:44:55.630
this one's two people are going to see it. And

904
00:44:55.670 --> 00:44:58.329
that's just life. I mean, I think that that happens

905
00:44:58.949 --> 00:45:01.389
even outside of video production. Like you'll put a lot

906
00:45:01.429 --> 00:45:03.139
of time and energy into something and it does not

907
00:45:03.179 --> 00:45:06.000
go well. And then you'll put maybe not a lot

908
00:45:06.019 --> 00:45:07.760
of time and energy in something else and it goes great.

909
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.690
And I mean, again, we could say that's like the

910
00:45:11.750 --> 00:45:15.489
universe nudging you different ways potentially, or it's just how

911
00:45:15.510 --> 00:45:18.550
the cookie crumbles. But I mean, I think the biggest

912
00:45:18.590 --> 00:45:21.070
thing is how you come back from that. So a

913
00:45:21.110 --> 00:45:24.079
lot of like, it's just resilience and it's like repetitions.

914
00:45:25.099 --> 00:45:27.119
So I would never, I, and I tell this too,

915
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.380
I work with some, um, like younger comedians sometimes that

916
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.480
are trying to do more video and things. And we

917
00:45:32.500 --> 00:45:34.480
just talk about like, You got to get your reps in.

918
00:45:34.539 --> 00:45:36.480
Like you're getting your reps in on stage. You're getting

919
00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:39.239
your reps in online. So like if the video doesn't

920
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.550
do bad, if it bombs, just pretend like it didn't

921
00:45:42.570 --> 00:45:44.949
even happen. Like do the next one. Like who cares?

922
00:45:45.070 --> 00:45:47.030
No one cares. It's just about going up to the

923
00:45:47.090 --> 00:45:50.170
plate and like batting each time and getting back up there.

924
00:45:51.030 --> 00:45:53.510
Then every single thing is going to be a home run.

925
00:45:53.590 --> 00:45:54.949
Sometimes you're going to have a single. Sometimes you're going

926
00:45:54.969 --> 00:45:57.010
to have a triple. But like sometimes you are going

927
00:45:57.030 --> 00:46:00.840
to go viral. But sometimes it's just literally the consistency

928
00:46:01.219 --> 00:46:02.460
of putting yourself out there every time.

929
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.460
Sometimes you're going to sit down and you're going to say,

930
00:46:08.019 --> 00:46:11.420
what's the deal with Target Santa? Are we being naughty

931
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.300
or are we being nice? I don't know, but you

932
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.219
guys got to go look and see what Target Santa

933
00:46:16.340 --> 00:46:17.340
is and come back and tell me.

934
00:46:18.010 --> 00:46:18.849
That got two.

935
00:46:18.789 --> 00:46:23.570
Point something million views. Anne-Marie, I had put so much

936
00:46:23.610 --> 00:46:26.630
thought and time and energy and heart and soul into

937
00:46:26.730 --> 00:46:29.489
trying to be this light, bright place on the internet.

938
00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:33.130
And after years of doing that, the first video I

939
00:46:33.170 --> 00:46:35.940
had to go crazy. was just me sitting down in

940
00:46:35.980 --> 00:46:38.719
my chair and asking what the deal was with hot Santa.

941
00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:42.340
And I was like, Oh guys, like there's so much

942
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.199
more here. There's so much more value. And I, but

943
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.860
what you said is so true in that you need to,

944
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.469
you know, work, do the reps and work through the,

945
00:46:51.780 --> 00:46:54.610
you know, the, the messy stuff to get to the

946
00:46:54.650 --> 00:46:56.630
good stuff. And it's just, it's just funny because yes,

947
00:46:56.730 --> 00:46:59.230
the ones that you, you work hard on, you know,

948
00:46:59.269 --> 00:47:02.190
sometimes are not the ones that do the things. And

949
00:47:02.230 --> 00:47:04.340
then you sit down and talk about a hot Santa.

950
00:47:04.380 --> 00:47:06.820
And for some reason, that's the one.

951
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:06.920
Okay.

952
00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:09.199
Giddy up.

953
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:09.639
Let's go.

954
00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:10.840
Okay.

955
00:47:10.860 --> 00:47:13.179
But in that regard, that's like really cool that that

956
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:14.880
happened to you and that you just went ahead and

957
00:47:14.900 --> 00:47:16.780
like hit record and you did it because the other

958
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.380
thing too, is people get paralysis by like, it has

959
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.369
to be perfect. And sometimes it's okay if it's just done.

960
00:47:23.769 --> 00:47:27.429
Like it's okay if it's done, maybe it's 85% there,

961
00:47:27.469 --> 00:47:30.630
but you gotta, you gotta keep her moving, you know?

962
00:47:30.750 --> 00:47:34.449
So like, that's all right. That's okay. Because look, I mean,

963
00:47:34.469 --> 00:47:36.449
I'm sure you were like, oh, well, three people are

964
00:47:36.469 --> 00:47:37.710
going to write, uh, write me on this.

965
00:47:37.750 --> 00:47:38.250
Literally.

966
00:47:38.409 --> 00:47:42.599
Normally it's nothing. The commentary is so funny because I

967
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.789
literally commented on so many things before that, but his

968
00:47:46.829 --> 00:47:49.210
name is Brent Bailey, by the way, he's an actor. Uh,

969
00:47:49.610 --> 00:47:50.809
he lives in Hollywood.

970
00:47:51.070 --> 00:47:51.730
Right. I did.

971
00:47:51.909 --> 00:47:53.949
And it ended up, we ended up becoming friends. He

972
00:47:53.989 --> 00:47:57.230
was like guest number four or five. Yes, I know.

973
00:47:57.329 --> 00:48:01.070
It's crazy. But like he, he and I, it would

974
00:48:01.170 --> 00:48:03.199
not have happened if I hadn't sat down and talked

975
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.860
about hot Santa and, you know, just pressed publish. And

976
00:48:06.900 --> 00:48:09.079
there you go. Um, and it with, I had, I

977
00:48:09.139 --> 00:48:11.099
had had a tooth removed, like on, on top of

978
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:13.679
it all, I had, um, had a tooth pulled like

979
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:17.170
three days earlier. So my face was like six times

980
00:48:17.269 --> 00:48:19.610
larger on this side than this side which might have.

981
00:48:19.510 --> 00:48:21.849
Been hello right so nice to meet you.

982
00:48:22.610 --> 00:48:24.949
Might have been my visual hook is that what's this

983
00:48:25.010 --> 00:48:27.389
girl with her face like so nice.

984
00:48:27.210 --> 00:48:28.170
To meet you.

985
00:48:31.010 --> 00:48:33.530
Oh my goodness you talk about like godwinks though and

986
00:48:33.570 --> 00:48:36.239
nudges and you know getting to know brent bailey has

987
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.019
been such a such a gift and he's just a

988
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:41.619
kind amazing human aside from obviously being hot santa he's

989
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.920
got a lot of other a lot of other actor

990
00:48:44.059 --> 00:48:49.389
acting roles an onion Like we said, always peel it back.

991
00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:49.889
Always.

992
00:48:50.670 --> 00:48:53.449
Speaking of which, I have a few more questions that

993
00:48:53.489 --> 00:48:56.690
are very much quick before you forget oriented. So don't

994
00:48:56.730 --> 00:48:59.849
necessarily have to answer them quick, but they're a little

995
00:48:59.889 --> 00:49:04.070
more quick hitting. And one of them is what, because

996
00:49:04.210 --> 00:49:06.929
here's the thing, you have shined the spotlight a lot

997
00:49:07.050 --> 00:49:09.289
on the Holderness family, which makes all the sense to me.

998
00:49:09.769 --> 00:49:12.090
And as a very, I mean, my goodness gracious, I

999
00:49:12.130 --> 00:49:13.849
have been a huge fan of theirs for a very,

1000
00:49:13.909 --> 00:49:18.409
very long time. And was cheering them on in Amazing Race.

1001
00:49:18.610 --> 00:49:21.840
And I have their books back. here. And I was

1002
00:49:21.900 --> 00:49:24.440
on their book launch team for Everybody Fights. I am

1003
00:49:24.500 --> 00:49:25.090
like an OG.

1004
00:49:25.260 --> 00:49:27.420
Oh my gosh, you're a real one. You're a real one.

1005
00:49:27.619 --> 00:49:28.760
I go back, right?

1006
00:49:29.610 --> 00:49:33.510
And I'm so grateful you're here. You're here to tell

1007
00:49:33.570 --> 00:49:37.170
your story. Because as I shared a little bit before

1008
00:49:37.190 --> 00:49:39.469
we got on, I am somebody that's been behind the

1009
00:49:39.489 --> 00:49:41.070
scenes for a long time. who's trying to make that

1010
00:49:41.110 --> 00:49:45.500
transition and getting, you know, battling with myself, like, well, no,

1011
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:48.360
but who cares what your story is? And you know, like,

1012
00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:51.579
but people do care and I, I care. So we're

1013
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.929
going to dive into Anne Marie a little bit deeper,

1014
00:49:54.530 --> 00:49:58.730
including what would you tell your 22 year old self

1015
00:49:59.289 --> 00:49:59.750
if you could?

1016
00:50:02.409 --> 00:50:05.820
Oh, 22 year old Anne Marie. She was a lot.

1017
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:12.429
And I'm joking. Um, I would tell her, You know,

1018
00:50:12.590 --> 00:50:14.730
it's so funny. I was almost going to say something

1019
00:50:14.750 --> 00:50:16.989
that I was almost going to say follow the rules

1020
00:50:17.250 --> 00:50:19.289
because I think one of the reasons why I got

1021
00:50:19.329 --> 00:50:21.409
like on my first job was I was like, I

1022
00:50:21.429 --> 00:50:23.280
don't need to do that. I have this way I

1023
00:50:23.300 --> 00:50:25.239
like to do it. And they're like, no, no, no.

1024
00:50:27.179 --> 00:50:28.679
We know it's archaic, but this is how we do

1025
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:35.000
things around here. Right. Follow the rules, but also like, okay,

1026
00:50:35.019 --> 00:50:36.530
what I would tell myself is don't be afraid to

1027
00:50:36.570 --> 00:50:38.349
take the leap. Don't be afraid to take the leap

1028
00:50:38.530 --> 00:50:40.789
because I did stay in that job a long time.

1029
00:50:41.030 --> 00:50:43.869
I wanted to leave really bad. I tried to like

1030
00:50:43.909 --> 00:50:46.079
find other things to supplement. Like I said, I did

1031
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.739
improv comedy. I tried to find things to bring myself joy.

1032
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:53.619
So I would say take the leap. And I know

1033
00:50:53.659 --> 00:50:56.719
that now because I have taken the leap and things

1034
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.030
have worked out. And if they don't work out, like

1035
00:50:59.170 --> 00:51:02.889
we'll find a way. Like I'm totally like I always

1036
00:51:02.969 --> 00:51:05.710
feel like you're going to figure it out. If you

1037
00:51:05.730 --> 00:51:07.360
want to make the big change, make the big change.

1038
00:51:07.409 --> 00:51:12.460
If you're like, oopsies, there's always an alternative. So yeah,

1039
00:51:12.500 --> 00:51:14.219
I would tell myself to like take the leap.

1040
00:51:15.139 --> 00:51:17.159
And have an open mind, it sounds like too.

1041
00:51:17.179 --> 00:51:18.380
I'll be stuck. Yeah.

1042
00:51:19.019 --> 00:51:19.159
Yeah.

1043
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:20.679
Yeah. Make a change.

1044
00:51:21.219 --> 00:51:25.170
Make a change. If I handed you a megaphone and

1045
00:51:25.809 --> 00:51:29.250
most of the world was strongly encouraged to listen to you,

1046
00:51:29.929 --> 00:51:31.170
what would your one message be?

1047
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.059
Uh, find a way to laugh every day. Find a

1048
00:51:38.059 --> 00:51:41.099
way to laugh every day. I just, that's probably cliche,

1049
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:44.570
but laughter, I truly believe laughter is medicine. Laughter is medicine.

1050
00:51:44.699 --> 00:51:47.170
I laugh every day. The person that makes me laugh

1051
00:51:47.190 --> 00:51:49.929
the most of my life is my husband. Um, which

1052
00:51:49.949 --> 00:51:51.949
people are surprised to hear. So he's not like a

1053
00:51:52.190 --> 00:51:54.789
funny ha ha person, but he's just like a very like, um,

1054
00:51:55.449 --> 00:51:59.010
quick witted kind of dry deadpan humor. And it gets

1055
00:51:59.050 --> 00:52:02.070
me every time, every time I'm not, I'm not ready

1056
00:52:02.110 --> 00:52:03.659
for it. And that's what gets me every time. It's

1057
00:52:03.739 --> 00:52:05.699
so funny. but yeah, I would just find a way

1058
00:52:05.739 --> 00:52:08.860
to laugh every day. Even if it's something stupid, you

1059
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.340
could laugh at yourself. You could have a dance party

1060
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.969
in your bathroom and be like, I'm ridiculous, but you

1061
00:52:14.989 --> 00:52:17.150
have to find those ways to just get through it.

1062
00:52:17.610 --> 00:52:20.429
You'd really do. And I know there's a lot of like,

1063
00:52:20.550 --> 00:52:23.130
that's very, that also is a very privileged thing for

1064
00:52:23.150 --> 00:52:24.989
me to say. Like, cause I know there is a

1065
00:52:25.010 --> 00:52:27.309
lot of places in, in the U S and the

1066
00:52:27.349 --> 00:52:30.010
world that is like, they're really struggling and they're like,

1067
00:52:30.230 --> 00:52:33.510
that's cute Amory, but we're just trying to get through life. Um,

1068
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.559
But I think even finding a really, I think the

1069
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.400
watered down version of that is find a way to just,

1070
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.969
you know, crack even a little soft smile. Do something

1071
00:52:42.989 --> 00:52:45.670
that makes you, even if it's just watching the sunset,

1072
00:52:46.730 --> 00:52:49.630
picking up a dandelion and, you know, blowing it like

1073
00:52:49.670 --> 00:52:51.449
you were when you were a kid. Like find those

1074
00:52:51.530 --> 00:52:55.099
little pieces that kind of bring you a little spark,

1075
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.539
a little sparkle. Because you need that. Even if things

1076
00:52:58.579 --> 00:53:00.239
are really hard, you need that as a person.

1077
00:53:01.309 --> 00:53:03.130
The best thing about what you said, and I got

1078
00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:05.369
chills because the best thing about what you said is

1079
00:53:06.070 --> 00:53:08.809
first of all, that it's little. Secondly, that it's for you.

1080
00:53:09.170 --> 00:53:12.030
And thirdly, that it's a spark because it is. And

1081
00:53:12.050 --> 00:53:15.800
when you find those things for you, generally speaking in

1082
00:53:15.900 --> 00:53:19.079
some way or another, it spills over and can spark

1083
00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:21.920
something in somebody else. And that's kind of the whole

1084
00:53:21.980 --> 00:53:24.570
point of what I'm trying to do here is helping

1085
00:53:24.590 --> 00:53:28.030
people feel seen in story and in a way that

1086
00:53:28.130 --> 00:53:31.199
they recognize that a lot of the, these really big

1087
00:53:31.300 --> 00:53:35.619
things that feel super overwhelming and hard aren't, it's not

1088
00:53:35.659 --> 00:53:38.300
that it's not that deep. Like it's not like you

1089
00:53:38.539 --> 00:53:42.539
can find these little things and hold onto them and

1090
00:53:42.579 --> 00:53:44.760
have them actually make a difference in your day, in

1091
00:53:44.780 --> 00:53:46.679
your life, in your world and in the world of

1092
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.570
those around you. And that's, that's the coolest part for me.

1093
00:53:49.590 --> 00:53:53.960
Um, What? Another thing I'll say to that really quick

1094
00:53:54.019 --> 00:53:55.500
is like, I always try to find a way to

1095
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.960
connect with just everyday people. I could be asking someone

1096
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.440
at the grocery store where an item is, but I

1097
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.980
always try to not just ask that. Like sometimes I,

1098
00:54:06.300 --> 00:54:07.780
and I do it to the point where I don't

1099
00:54:07.820 --> 00:54:10.239
even like realize I'm doing it, but I, I've noticed

1100
00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:12.019
this about myself lately. Cause someone pointed out to me

1101
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.480
is like, I'll crack a little joke about it to them,

1102
00:54:14.579 --> 00:54:17.280
or I'll like make a comment that makes them laugh

1103
00:54:17.340 --> 00:54:19.960
about what they're doing or like, and again, nothing's mean spirited,

1104
00:54:20.019 --> 00:54:21.840
but I was trying to find these little ways to

1105
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:26.119
like just connect with the everyday people you're seeing in

1106
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:29.960
your life and connect with them in with with kindness and,

1107
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:33.980
you know, being humble and joy. Like if you can

1108
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.250
make it always makes my day to make someone else's day,

1109
00:54:37.530 --> 00:54:39.909
even if I just made them kind of chuckle about something.

1110
00:54:39.929 --> 00:54:40.889
Yeah.

1111
00:54:42.230 --> 00:54:45.309
Any I don't know if someone takes that take something

1112
00:54:45.369 --> 00:54:48.469
away from that, then even just one person, then.

1113
00:54:49.849 --> 00:54:52.269
The power of one is, is a good thing. I,

1114
00:54:52.369 --> 00:54:54.489
you know, that was a guest of mine. That was

1115
00:54:54.530 --> 00:54:56.929
the name of the episode was if you just touch

1116
00:54:57.030 --> 00:54:59.710
one heart in a day, you've done more than enough.

1117
00:55:00.050 --> 00:55:03.139
So that's absolutely beautiful. And something I do as well.

1118
00:55:03.300 --> 00:55:06.500
And I, I, I'm a complimenter like when we're at

1119
00:55:06.820 --> 00:55:09.360
the grocery store and I can tell that somebody spent

1120
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.110
time or money on their nails or their outfit or

1121
00:55:13.349 --> 00:55:15.590
their hair or whatever. I'm the one that's like, Oh,

1122
00:55:17.550 --> 00:55:19.969
And my kids, it was really cool is that I

1123
00:55:20.429 --> 00:55:22.769
have modeled that enough with my kids where they do

1124
00:55:22.829 --> 00:55:26.860
it too. And seeing that like full circle parenting moment

1125
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:31.219
on pretty frequently is just, it's exactly what you're talking

1126
00:55:31.260 --> 00:55:33.619
about with like the mirror and having that, it just

1127
00:55:34.179 --> 00:55:36.440
amplifies the good energy. And we need, we need as

1128
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.539
much of that as we can get right now. So

1129
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:43.039
we do. And another place that I find good energy is,

1130
00:55:43.219 --> 00:55:47.320
you know, we, you talked about laughter is medicine. 100% agree.

1131
00:55:47.699 --> 00:55:51.960
I also believe that mindset, movement, and music are kind

1132
00:55:51.980 --> 00:55:54.659
of my foundations for the show and for Quick Before

1133
00:55:54.699 --> 00:56:00.409
You Forget. Movement and music, in particular music, is medicine

1134
00:56:00.590 --> 00:56:03.849
for me, has been. I'm very grateful I've had a

1135
00:56:03.869 --> 00:56:06.050
lot of opportunities to experience a lot of live shows

1136
00:56:06.110 --> 00:56:10.590
this year. Medicine is almost not a big enough word

1137
00:56:10.670 --> 00:56:14.340
for the healing energy that can happen for you through music.

1138
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.320
So my question is as, as a person that, you know,

1139
00:56:17.340 --> 00:56:20.030
obviously there's a lot of music that happens in the

1140
00:56:20.070 --> 00:56:23.949
Holderness family, but what is your song? Like, do you

1141
00:56:23.969 --> 00:56:26.469
have a song that you go to, to like ground

1142
00:56:26.510 --> 00:56:28.090
yourself in moments?

1143
00:56:28.110 --> 00:56:29.610
I've been waiting for you to ask me. I've been

1144
00:56:29.650 --> 00:56:34.329
waiting for you to ask me. I, I do love music. I,

1145
00:56:34.769 --> 00:56:36.369
like I said, I did musical theater. I'm a singer.

1146
00:56:36.389 --> 00:56:39.869
I've always sang. I was like, the little kid when

1147
00:56:39.929 --> 00:56:42.909
she was three that I like, they put me on

1148
00:56:42.949 --> 00:56:45.750
a table outside and I sang Jeremiah was a bullfrog,

1149
00:56:45.789 --> 00:56:48.389
joy to the world for everyone. Cause my dad had

1150
00:56:48.409 --> 00:56:49.880
rewrote some of the lyrics for me. So they were

1151
00:56:49.909 --> 00:56:52.460
age appropriate. So I guess parody has always been in

1152
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.650
my life too. Always. You were three. Yes. It was

1153
00:56:55.670 --> 00:56:57.280
like three or four and they have like a whole

1154
00:56:57.300 --> 00:56:59.949
movie of it. I asked for like that Fisher price

1155
00:57:00.010 --> 00:57:03.179
microphone with like lights for like, I think a preschool,

1156
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.699
like Christmas. It was like the best. I still think

1157
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.699
to this day, that was like the epitome of Christmas

1158
00:57:07.739 --> 00:57:09.699
morning to me was seeing that under the tree. I

1159
00:57:09.739 --> 00:57:12.480
was like, like, I just loved it. So I do,

1160
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.559
I do love to sing. So I love, love music.

1161
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.840
And do I have a song? I love Phil Collins.

1162
00:57:19.940 --> 00:57:23.239
I've noticed about myself that I love a horn section.

1163
00:57:23.980 --> 00:57:26.429
I need your band to have a horn section. I

1164
00:57:27.170 --> 00:57:29.190
want a full horn section. So that brings me to

1165
00:57:29.230 --> 00:57:33.070
like a lot of Motown, funk. But I did something

1166
00:57:33.110 --> 00:57:36.010
recently that kind of goes along with your question. Again,

1167
00:57:36.030 --> 00:57:39.269
a little God wink is I just recognized when I

1168
00:57:39.289 --> 00:57:41.010
was like out at the airport or a restaurant, I'd

1169
00:57:41.030 --> 00:57:42.980
be like, oh, I love this song. I haven't heard

1170
00:57:43.059 --> 00:57:46.019
this song in forever. So I started a new playlist

1171
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.320
called Happy Mix on my phone. And so whenever I

1172
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.039
would hear a song when I was out, I would

1173
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.030
throw it on the Happy Mix. And sometimes I take

1174
00:57:54.050 --> 00:57:57.639
stuff off because I'm like, maybe this one's I'm not

1175
00:57:57.659 --> 00:58:00.239
super into it anymore. But it actually, if I'm having

1176
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.920
a down day, I literally just put that thing on

1177
00:58:02.940 --> 00:58:05.980
shuffle because it's all songs that make me feel good.

1178
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:09.199
There's a lot of horns in those and there's a

1179
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.829
lot of Motown. It's probably everything you're like people listening

1180
00:58:11.869 --> 00:58:14.230
like your parents like. I usually like the music your

1181
00:58:14.269 --> 00:58:16.929
parents like for sure. I'm kind of an old soul

1182
00:58:16.949 --> 00:58:20.650
in that way. But yeah, that's what really, that's what

1183
00:58:20.690 --> 00:58:23.949
gets me going. One of my favorites is Something Happened

1184
00:58:23.969 --> 00:58:26.360
on the Way to Heaven by Phil Collins, which is

1185
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:29.539
a banger and has a lot of horns. So that's

1186
00:58:29.619 --> 00:58:32.099
like my check, check. Anne-Marie's happy.

1187
00:58:32.380 --> 00:58:35.679
Checks all the boxes. And will you share your playlist

1188
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.639
with us? Like, I don't want to like, is it

1189
00:58:38.659 --> 00:58:40.710
like on Apple or Spotify or somewhere where you could like?

1190
00:58:40.730 --> 00:58:42.090
Yeah, it's on Apple. Okay.

1191
00:58:42.349 --> 00:58:42.869
I would love it.

1192
00:58:42.949 --> 00:58:45.409
Yeah. You guys can get happy with me. Yes.

1193
00:58:45.710 --> 00:58:49.309
Let's get happy together with the, with the happy mix playlist.

1194
00:58:49.349 --> 00:58:52.219
Enjoy the horns. They don't have enough horns nowadays. They

1195
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:52.920
need to bring them back.

1196
00:58:53.340 --> 00:58:57.320
That's true. You don't hear horns. That's funny because, yeah,

1197
00:58:57.340 --> 00:58:58.920
I was trying to think of something more modern and

1198
00:59:00.019 --> 00:59:00.949
I can't think of anything.

1199
00:59:00.969 --> 00:59:03.050
It's so hard. Bruno Mars has some horns.

1200
00:59:03.349 --> 00:59:06.530
Okay. Bruno Mars knows what's up. We know what's up.

1201
00:59:08.610 --> 00:59:11.889
Thank you for your time. for your energy, for all

1202
00:59:11.929 --> 00:59:14.469
of the things. I am so grateful. And I want

1203
00:59:14.510 --> 00:59:17.070
to know if there's anything specific that you want to

1204
00:59:17.110 --> 00:59:19.639
share or spotlight that I didn't ask you today.

1205
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.460
Um, okay. Yes, there is. So in getting to know

1206
00:59:24.579 --> 00:59:27.980
me and Marie, the person, not the Midwest neighbor, um,

1207
00:59:28.179 --> 00:59:32.030
I'm very involved in my local chapter of Alpha Gamma Delta,

1208
00:59:32.110 --> 00:59:36.329
which is a sorority and our philanthropy is, um, fighting hunger.

1209
00:59:36.630 --> 00:59:38.349
So I would encourage everyone as we go into the

1210
00:59:38.389 --> 00:59:41.590
holiday season, um, to give back to your local food

1211
00:59:41.630 --> 00:59:48.849
pantry or to volunteer your, your time. If you're Food

1212
00:59:48.889 --> 00:59:52.590
insecurity is like a really, really big issue right now,

1213
00:59:52.650 --> 00:59:55.550
especially in our area. And that's the work that I

1214
00:59:55.590 --> 00:59:59.179
do with these amazing women that I get to work

1215
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:01.340
with here. And so, yeah, that's what I would encourage

1216
01:00:01.380 --> 01:00:05.340
people to do because also giving back to others also

1217
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.099
brings you joy. It really does. It puts a smile

1218
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:10.449
on their face and yours. So I would try to

1219
01:00:10.489 --> 01:00:12.170
find ways to do that. Awesome.

1220
01:00:12.590 --> 01:00:16.170
One more thing, quick before you forget, what does Anne-Marie

1221
01:00:16.530 --> 01:00:17.590
need to remember right now?

1222
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:26.460
Anne-Marie needs to remember the grocery list. No, Anne-Marie needs

1223
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:30.619
to remember, um, probably to not be so hard on herself.

1224
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:35.179
That's like a downer answer, but, um, I dug a

1225
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.280
lot of balls. I like to do a lot of things.

1226
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:41.929
Sometimes things get dropped and, um, usually I'm very quick

1227
01:00:41.969 --> 01:00:44.849
to fix it if it does, but sometimes, yeah, it's,

1228
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.440
I think it's hard, especially being like a working mom.

1229
01:00:48.539 --> 01:00:50.519
You can sometimes, you'll have days where you feel like

1230
01:00:50.539 --> 01:00:54.119
you're failing. And I mean, on the whole, you're probably

1231
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:57.239
doing great. You just had a bad day. So I

1232
01:00:57.260 --> 01:00:59.550
need to remind myself to be nicer to myself about stuff.

1233
01:00:59.630 --> 01:01:02.150
Sometimes I beat myself up if I forget something or

1234
01:01:02.170 --> 01:01:04.730
I mess something up. But it's really not that serious.

1235
01:01:05.489 --> 01:01:07.110
Go put your happy playlist on, Ann Marie.

1236
01:01:07.769 --> 01:01:08.369
Happy mixed playlist.

1237
01:01:08.389 --> 01:01:09.630
I dance pretty going to those horns.

1238
01:01:10.050 --> 01:01:13.719
Here we go. It's so funny because... you said it

1239
01:01:13.739 --> 01:01:16.000
was a downer answer and I heard give yourself grace

1240
01:01:16.219 --> 01:01:19.360
and there's nothing downer about that. Like you just need

1241
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.389
to give yourself some grace. Like I almost forgot to

1242
01:01:22.510 --> 01:01:25.190
ask a question. I had a friend who found out

1243
01:01:25.230 --> 01:01:27.670
I was interviewing you, talking with you today and she's like,

1244
01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:29.570
oh my gosh, could you ask her a question? And

1245
01:01:29.610 --> 01:01:32.610
I said, sure. And I almost forgot. And then you said,

1246
01:01:32.929 --> 01:01:35.329
and you know, I forget things and I was looking

1247
01:01:35.369 --> 01:01:37.809
at my notes and here's the question. So I'm One

1248
01:01:37.849 --> 01:01:39.929
more question. I'm sorry to juke you around.

1249
01:01:40.070 --> 01:01:41.650
Who's your friend? Can we say her name?

1250
01:01:41.670 --> 01:01:44.670
Yeah, her name is Leanne, and she's from the Instagram.

1251
01:01:44.949 --> 01:01:47.110
She's one of my rollercoaster followers.

1252
01:01:47.139 --> 01:01:50.780
Is she a two-name person? She a two-name person? Kind of, Leanne.

1253
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:51.519
She is.

1254
01:01:51.579 --> 01:01:52.099
Yeah, Leanne.

1255
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:53.920
I get you, girl. I get you, girl.

1256
01:01:53.940 --> 01:01:54.559
She's in your name.

1257
01:01:54.579 --> 01:01:57.539
We're out here fighting the good fight with our two names.

1258
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:01.280
You share three letters in your names. So she said,

1259
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:05.039
give me the Midwestern mom or woman take on neighbors

1260
01:02:05.099 --> 01:02:09.219
being friends and then not... being friends. How do you

1261
01:02:09.260 --> 01:02:12.300
go about life driving past their house every day, but

1262
01:02:12.340 --> 01:02:15.199
not having deep connection or closeness anymore?

1263
01:02:17.050 --> 01:02:19.630
Oh, okay. So wait, they were friends and now they're not.

1264
01:02:19.650 --> 01:02:21.469
Uh-huh. And how do you work through that?

1265
01:02:22.429 --> 01:02:23.550
And you have to go through that by their house

1266
01:02:23.610 --> 01:02:27.150
every day. Oh, this is hard for me to answer

1267
01:02:27.210 --> 01:02:30.210
Leanne because I'm, I'm a little bit of a people pleaser.

1268
01:02:30.590 --> 01:02:33.099
So I will make my way to go over there.

1269
01:02:33.139 --> 01:02:34.860
I'll find an excuse to come over to your house,

1270
01:02:35.019 --> 01:02:36.900
even if we're not friends, just to be like, everything good.

1271
01:02:37.909 --> 01:02:39.610
Or your plant, like sometimes I'll wait, I'll see them

1272
01:02:39.630 --> 01:02:42.230
come out. Your plants look so nice. I always like

1273
01:02:42.269 --> 01:02:43.349
compliment people on their plants.

1274
01:02:43.369 --> 01:02:43.909
Compliments.

1275
01:02:45.059 --> 01:02:47.840
They do look really nice because I do not have

1276
01:02:47.940 --> 01:02:50.460
a big green. I do a lot of drought resistant

1277
01:02:50.500 --> 01:02:53.159
plants because I'll forget to water them. But if you're

1278
01:02:53.179 --> 01:02:55.809
watering your plants, I'm giving you a gold star. Okay.

1279
01:02:55.869 --> 01:02:59.920
What do you say? Um, oh gosh, Leanne, I feel

1280
01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:02.460
like as a neighbor, I have to answer in this

1281
01:03:02.579 --> 01:03:06.280
very exaggerated voice that I've created. That's not really from

1282
01:03:06.460 --> 01:03:09.510
any specific place in the Midwest, just a culmination of

1283
01:03:09.550 --> 01:03:14.369
it all. So don't get offended. Um, listen, okay. You

1284
01:03:14.409 --> 01:03:17.170
don't have to be besties, but you got to help

1285
01:03:17.190 --> 01:03:19.730
them out every once in a while. Maybe drop off

1286
01:03:19.769 --> 01:03:24.070
a little beat good, write them a little note. If

1287
01:03:24.090 --> 01:03:26.929
you have a good casserole recipe, maybe drop that in

1288
01:03:26.949 --> 01:03:31.130
the mailbox. Was thinking of you. It doesn't mean you

1289
01:03:31.150 --> 01:03:34.079
got to be best buds, but you can be neighborly.

1290
01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:38.199
You can help them shovel the drive. If they need

1291
01:03:38.219 --> 01:03:41.679
a boost, that's what I would say. That's what the

1292
01:03:41.699 --> 01:03:43.150
neighbor would say. Bless him.

1293
01:03:43.570 --> 01:03:46.809
That was perfect. And I'm grateful. And it's been so fun.

1294
01:03:46.829 --> 01:03:48.849
I wonder if maybe you could come back again and

1295
01:03:48.889 --> 01:03:51.070
talk more because I could talk to you for hours.

1296
01:03:51.139 --> 01:03:54.079
We've had enough time though. And I'm so grateful. So

1297
01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:57.019
thank you again for being here, for sharing with us,

1298
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.780
for just showing up for you and for us. I

1299
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:01.590
really appreciate it.

1300
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.860
Yes. Thank you for having me on. It's been really,

1301
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.039
really nice. I've liked talking to you. I would be

1302
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:07.659
happy to come back.

1303
01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:08.099
Yay.

1304
01:04:09.070 --> 01:04:11.050
So you heard it here, friends. She's coming back. And

1305
01:04:11.090 --> 01:04:13.750
we will see you next time on Quick Before You Forget.

1306
01:04:13.769 --> 01:04:13.840
Bye.

1307
01:04:16.070 --> 01:04:19.789
That was so much fun. Thank you for investing your time, energy,

1308
01:04:20.050 --> 01:04:23.090
and thought into spending some time with me today. I

1309
01:04:23.210 --> 01:04:26.769
really appreciate you. And I really appreciate when you talk back.

1310
01:04:27.429 --> 01:04:30.199
So please, if you're here still, thank you so much.

1311
01:04:30.820 --> 01:04:33.800
Please tell me what you thought. Tell me what other

1312
01:04:33.860 --> 01:04:37.800
questions you have. Tell me how this episode affected you

1313
01:04:37.860 --> 01:04:40.070
and how it resonated with you and all of the things.

1314
01:04:40.110 --> 01:04:43.369
Tell me all the things in the comments. And please

1315
01:04:43.429 --> 01:04:46.289
know that I'm reading every single comment, responding to every

1316
01:04:46.329 --> 01:04:50.510
single comment, and I appreciate you. Thank you for being

1317
01:04:50.550 --> 01:04:54.150
here with me today. Please also like, share, subscribe. If

1318
01:04:54.650 --> 01:04:57.130
this episode was fun for you, It'll be fun for

1319
01:04:57.170 --> 01:04:59.349
a friend, so send it to a friend that might

1320
01:04:59.429 --> 01:05:03.400
enjoy a little laughter, a little joy, and a little

1321
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:09.760
more time investing in themselves. And today, I am proudly sponsored,

1322
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:13.849
not sponsored, by Zeke's Village Market in Door County, Wisconsin,

1323
01:05:14.070 --> 01:05:19.210
which provided this fantastic shirt, which Ephraim is a really

1324
01:05:19.250 --> 01:05:22.030
cute town in Door County. If you haven't been there,

1325
01:05:22.510 --> 01:05:26.179
it's beautiful. It's very much Cape Cod beautiful. It's the

1326
01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.519
Cape Cod of the Midwest. So I just have to

1327
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:32.059
show you the design because the design is what makes

1328
01:05:32.139 --> 01:05:34.449
it a souvenir with soul. So we're going to stand up.

1329
01:05:44.590 --> 01:05:48.449
Every single design from Zeke's has heart and soul put

1330
01:05:48.489 --> 01:05:51.480
into it and it's designed and part that they partner

1331
01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:55.980
with Guilty Apparel. And the two together are a dynamic

1332
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:59.900
duo of awesomeness. So I am so grateful for their

1333
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:04.110
belief in me and their beautiful designs and their souvenirs

1334
01:06:04.130 --> 01:06:07.210
with soul. And I will see you next time on

1335
01:06:07.289 --> 01:06:08.130
Quick Before You Forget.