Feb. 9, 2026

Own Your Space: Identity, Presence, and Becoming Who You Already Are

Own Your Space: Identity, Presence, and Becoming Who You Already Are

When you’re burned out, feeling lost, or wondering how to remember who you are, this episode feels like a hug wrapped in laughter and human realness.

Actor and creator DJ Pieper joins Quick Before You Forget host Ty Schmidt for a real conversation about staying grounded in a chaotic world, using music, mindset, and movement to come home to yourself without turning healing into another thing to optimize.

DJ shares the song that instantly brings him back to presence, why nature resets the nervous system, and a powerful journaling practice—“lies vs truths”—that helps you quiet the noise, stop comparing yourself, and reconnect with what’s real.

If you’ve been living in survival mode, chasing the next milestone, or feeling like you’re falling behind, this is your reminder: you are loved, you’re not alone, and you can take the next step—quick, before you forget.

In this episode: burnout recovery mindset, grounding techniques, journaling prompts, inner child healing, presence without your phone, creativity without monetization, and rebuilding identity through music + movement.

00:00 – Getting “hit by a car” + nervous system humor (and survival perspective)
DJ opens with a wild story that sets the tone: life is chaotic, but he’s here—laughing because he’s okay.

00:42 – Meet DJ Pieper + what this show is about (music, mindset, movement)
Ty introduces DJ and frames the episode around vulnerability, presence, and becoming.

02:30 – Childhood memory: noise + love + grounding
Growing up in a packed Sicilian household—loud energy, big support, and the quiet steadiness of his grandpa.

05:27 – The lesson from Grandpa Tom: “say less, ask more” + own your space
DJ shares a confidence principle: be comfortable where you stand—this space is yours.

07:26 – The grounding song: Kings of Leon, “Back Down South”
How music can instantly return you to the present—and why memory + sound are so regulating.

09:45 – If DJ had a megaphone in today’s chaos…
His message to the world: “You are loved.”

11:15 – What he’d tell his 22-year-old self + the fear of being forgotten
A raw thread: chasing greatness, identity, and the pressure of time.

14:42 – What keeps you going when you feel behind?
DJ’s answer: create something, then go outside—nature, walks, and “smelling the roses.”

17:49 – Put the phone away: presence creates connection
Ty shares how real conversations happen in lines when you choose to be present.

19:16 – The “help someone” story: fixing a retaining wall → unexpected relationships
A powerful example of how generosity leads to connection (without trying to “network”).

22:43 – Unreal moment: $30, a train, acting class, Niagara Falls, and divine timing
A cinematic story about risk, trust, and getting rescued by the right people.

30:24 – Identity + music as integration
DJ talks about never feeling “enough” of one identity—music helps dissolve the question.

33:28 – Movement: skateboarding, BMX, and becoming kid-you again
Why movement isn’t fitness—it’s remembering yourself.

37:52 – How to find yourself again (inner child, joy, and play)
The core coaching moment: stop treating life like a monetization machine.

39:27 – “Not everything needs to be monetized.”
A burnout antidote in one sentence.

46:08 – Journaling prompt: “Lies vs Truths”
Write the lies you’re hearing → turn the page → write what’s true.

47:33 – Milwaukee + the 50 states goal (2 nights in every state)
Travel as a way to learn humans—life through people.

54:30 – Where to find DJ + current projects
Instagram/website + Star People mention + what he’s creating now.

57:23 – Anti Fashionism + masks, prompts, and bold creative outreach
A standout section for artists/creatives: visibility without selling your soul.

1:01:16 – Ty’s closing gratitude + invitation to connect + review the showA warm community-forward close

Top takeaways:

  • Staying grounded isn’t a personality trait—it’s a practice (music, nature, movement).
  • Presence creates connection (and connection brings you back to yourself).
  • Burnout worsens when everything becomes a metric, a brand, or a monetization plan.
  • Try the Lies vs Truths journaling prompt: name the lie → replace it with what’s real.
Listener prompt:

If you’re burned out or feeling lost, try this today:
  1. Put your phone down for 10 minutes
  2. Play one grounding song
  3. Write one lie you’ve been believing
  4. Write one truth that’s still true about you
DJ Pieper's Grounding Song: Kings of Leon, Back Down South
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It's so you got your head's on a swivel. I

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got hit by a car already. I've been twice. I've

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been hit by a car since I've lived out here.

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It's crazy.

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Wow, you're skateboarding.

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Yeah, I was skating and then all of a sudden,

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I just boom. I'm like, what was that? And then

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I look in the car. It's funny. It's so funny,

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but not, it's not. It is. I laugh it because

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I'm okay, but like in a movie, it's hilarious. I

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got hit by I'm like, oh, and I'm like looking

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the car took off and I'm like all right, like

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excuse me. You know. DJ.

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Hello, Welcome to Quick Before You Forget.

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Hi.

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Hi, I am so happy you're here. As a reminder

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Quick Before You Forget as a personal development podcast about

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building who You're building your unreal life from the ground up,

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using music, mindset, and movement to remember who you are

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while you're becoming who you want to be. And DJ

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is just that in real time. DJ is the kind

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of artist that whose presence lingers long after the scene

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cuts to Black Missouri. Born with an outsider's edge, DJ

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brings blue collar grit grounded physicality and quiet volatility to

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every role, whether in Star People or Disney Plus's Knockoff.

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His performances deal lived in shaped by martial arts, discipline

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and a life spent moving between worlds. But what truly

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defines DJ is his commitment to vulnerability, which I believe

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is a leadership superpower. His self created photobook Anti Fashionism

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reflects the same belief system as his acting style over trends,

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truth over polish, presence over performance. A former pe teacher

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for students on the autism spectrum, a Type one diabetic

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of twenty seven years, and someone who deeply loves the

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ritual of going to the movies, DJ approaches art and

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life with intention. His goal is simple and rare, to

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be the rosst performer he can be, and to help

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keep cinema alive by telling stories that matter. DJ, Welcome

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to Quick before you forget. I'm so happy you're here.

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Yeah, me too. Hey how you doing? Hey?

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I have great? Thank you for being here. I want

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you to start by walking us through your life. Like

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walk us through, take us back to your childhood and

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think about a memory that comes to mind that shaped

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who you've become today.

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Oh wow, it all started on a cold winter and

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now how did you talk it? It was actually I

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was born in January, so a birthday just passed. January eighth,

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Happy birthday so much. Yeah, birthday with Elvis and David Bowie.

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So I thought, you know, I just that's a great,

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great little trio we got going. Wow, something that shaped

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my life. I mean, I feel like every single day

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does something to me that like rejects that way. But

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my grandpa, my mom, my three cousins, my aunt, Like

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we all grew up in this small home and floorcent

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and I just remember noise, you know, like I just

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remembered the chaos. But it wasn't like we were yelling

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we yell at everybody, but like we weren't mad at

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each other, you know, it was just energy. So I

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think like that shaped kind of how I am. You know,

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when you want something, we're talking that level ten and

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it's just like I enjoy that. You know, hey, good morning,

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how are you? And I'm like I feel like my

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family should have worked Dutch bros. You know, like there

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is this heightened energy that they have. But that shaped

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and like went through my entire life. You know, my

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family has always been the loudest cheerleaders. They've been the

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loudest uh anything, supporters, everything. They're just there and they're loud.

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sitting with me and always like any goal I had,

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she was a cheerleader about it. She said, one thing,

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make sure you can have enough money for your insulin,

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and then whatever you do, do it, you know. But yeah,

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my grandpa he's the quiet one. He's like there's all

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these Sicilian women in the house and then it's just

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my grandpa, you know. And then and so like I

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remember going outside to the garage with him. He'd smoke

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a cigarette. We'd sit and we'd talk and sometimes we

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won't even talk. It would just be silence and we

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would just be working on stuff. So I really loved

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and enjoyed that like back and forth of grandma, mom

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and everybody, cousins, sister, everybody just loud. And then going

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to the garage with my grandpa quiet, you know, calm,

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and then like calculated almost you know, we would be

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measuring up what we're going to do. For the day. So, yeah,

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it comes from the voice. So my biggest memory is

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the voice, like people talking. And yeah, so that's a memory,

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like I will never forget. I'll never forget that about

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my family.

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What I hear there is balance. You have the noise

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and you had the grounding. And it makes me wonder.

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I gather what you've carried with you from the noise.

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You've carried that energy, You've carried that heightened sense of everything.

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you learned. What was the most valuable lesson you learned

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from your grandpa to help keep that noise within reason?

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talk like then you speak like say less, speak less,

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you know. And when I was young, I all right, whatever,

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And then like the older I got, I I still

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call him on the phone and I'm like, YadA, YadA, YadA,

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and he's like, well what about this? And he's not

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in the industry like that, but like he's been alive

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for eighty years, so you know, he's seen a thing

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or two and so I'm always like yeah, and so

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it's really I'm very comfortable sitting in where I'm at

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and owning my space and then just asking what I

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need to ask, you know. So the biggest thing I

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learned from him in that was own your space. Wherever

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you walk, that's yours, and not to be like rude

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about it. It's just like, hey, I'm comfortable and where

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I'm at and where I stand. And I did martial

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art then, but like I took that outside of martial

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arts and just took it to life of like, yeah,

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I know who I am, I know where I come from.

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So this space right here is mine and no matter

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what anybody does, they can't change that. So I took

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that away from from my grandpa, good old Tom.

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We love your grandpa, that's right, you do. So when

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you came on, we talked about how you have this

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contagious hypeie energy and I am obsessed with it. It's

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all over your social media. I love following your Instagram

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and seeing your story unfolding in real time and as

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that's happening, you also need to find ways like you

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did with your grandpa, which is interesting because you've been

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doing it your whole life then, where you have all

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this noise and all this energy and you need to

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find ways to be grounded. So when you came in,

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you told me you were listening to a song that

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grounds you, and I think we could all use that

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kind of recommendation right now, So tell us tell us

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more about that sound, that song that grounds you.

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It is Kings and Leon back down South. And the

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reason for me why I love it, it's just this

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little twangy guitar. I mean, Kings Leon is a pretty

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big band, but like that song is very it reminds

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me of like the bonfires with my buddies out in

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the field. We're not from the South, but like missouris,

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it ain't. It's the middle of America, right, and so

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it's kind of like we go with bonfire parties, you know,

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back when I was younger and just open fields and

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driving trucks in the back roads. Like it brings me

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back to the time I was sitting around the bonfire

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with my buddies and having a beer or something and

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just wow, like we never thought we would get out

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of this, Like this is our life, this is what

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we do. These are our friends, these are our people.

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of my friends and the people I was around in

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my life. And when I think of about that song,

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it takes me back to the Harrison's bonfire, sitting right

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there in the field and I'm like, talk to my

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buddy Luke and sitting on the back of his truck,

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think about where we're gonna go to eat afterwards, like

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should we go to Jack and a Boxer, ihap or

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waffle house? Like we're thinking about things that are very present,

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you know, And that song puts me back into a

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present state. I don't even think it has to do

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with the words. It's just like the flow of the

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song and they're talking about coming back home, back to

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the South, but for me, it's like back to Missouri.

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So yeah, that song puts me like I can go

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to sleep. I can literally It's not a slow song

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like that, but for me or what it does to

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my body, I'm like, oh, dude, I could go take

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a nap. You know.

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That's so great. I love that and we need that

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we need some level of grounding and presence, especially when

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we have this higher energy. So I appreciate that, and

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especially when we've got all the chaos us right like

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the world is a little bit chaotic right now, to

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say the least. And I wondered what you You know,

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we've talked about like the great advice from your grandpa

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and how to ground yourself through some music. But if

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you had like a megaphone to talk in the present

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moment right now to as many people as we're listening

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about how to stay grounded and present in what feels

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very chaotic of a world right now, how would you

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what would you say? What would your one message be

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to the world right now amidst everything chaotic going on?

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Oh man, I mean keep it as very simple as possible.

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I would be very like still, and I have my megaphone,

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and then I would look, I give this gaze and

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look at it every se if I can see everybody,

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you know, make eye contact, and then I would say,

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you are loved, very calmly, very nice, look at the

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next person you were loved too, and go through each

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person and just like and just go through and just

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tell people that they are loved that they are cared for,

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that someone sees them or something sees them.

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Yeah, that's beautiful and honestly so needed in this world.

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So you've had a lot of fun, You've done a

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lot of fun things in your life, and I'm wondering

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what lessons have you learned? Like what would you tell

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twenty two year old DJ if you.

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Could, I would say, hey, man, we'll be all right,

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Like you'll be good, chill chill out, like you're good.

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I honestly, I didn't think that I was gonna live

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to be past twenty seven. A lot of the great

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artists that I look up to where I loved, and

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they all passed away before thirty. And so it's like

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my vision of like who's my person like to look

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up to When I was younger, especially when I was

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twenty two, I was like, yeah, dude, Jim Morrison, Kurt Jimmy,

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what's up? Like all these people and then like he's

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glad you or what up? And all these people that

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I looked up to as artists ended up, you know,

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passing away, and I think it was so for me.

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I kind of took that on. I was like, well,

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I guess I'm not for me to be great, I

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can't be here. And I literally would say, like in

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my twenty two year old mind, somewhere I crossed that

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wire of to be great, you can't. You won't be

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able to see it. I won't be able to see

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the greatness that I will be able to do. And

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so I kind of just like took that on. I

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was like, oh, I'm diabetic, you know, I probably won't

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live to be that long anyways. I was very negative

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in that, but I wasn't like depressed or sad. I

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was just like, all right, let me have a lot

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of energy and time now then so people can well

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remember me. Like that was my biggest thing. I wanted

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people to remember me, and I didn't want to be forgotten.

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That probably comes from some old childhood wounds about my dad,

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like some daddy issues, you know, Like that's definitely where

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that's coming from.

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Do we dig into that or do we can't?

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We always can't, Like I mean, I am an artist.

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I have dug through it and probably will continue to

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dig through that for the rest of my life. But

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like I'm at peace with it now, you know what

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I'm saying. It's a little bit different, doesn't hit me

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as the same when I was twenty two. Everything was

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twenty two is fast, Let's do it now, Let's get

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it there. It's you're gonna be next to Denzel right now?

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Why am I not next to him? Like? Why am

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I not on this film? Like that was my mindset,

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and like why do I have my band front and

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center stage? Like you know? And then like so I

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would tell myself, Yo, you're good. Be with the people

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that you love, keep creating, keep being creative, have a

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good group of people who will check you when you

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go off. And I, I mean, I've had the same

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friends since I was in fourth grade. They're all back

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in Missouri that I got the same people. They know me,

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they know when I'm lying, they know when I'm on

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a podcast talk and that talk, and they'll call me

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and be like, Djay, what are you That never happened? Bro?

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And I'm like, dang, you're right a little over zealous here,

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you know. And so I have to keep those people

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around me. And my wife is like the number one

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person for that. She's like hmm okay, and then she

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I go, yeah, kind of loed a little bit, didn't I?

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And she was like it worked and it was like,

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you know, it was like instead of thirty guys there,

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it was like fifty thirty, you know, eighty. I always

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make something up like that.

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I'm a storyteller, so you know, write the story in

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real time for real.

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Literally, yeah, literally.

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So you talked about feeling like you wanted to be

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somewhere where you weren't. You talked about how you wished

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that you could be next to Denzel right away and

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all of the things. So my question is, how did

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you how did you do decided to keep going then?

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Like what kept you motivated when you felt like you

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weren't where you were supposed to be?

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Yeah, just do something more creative, you know, Like if

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I'm so focused on let's say that we'll go back

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to the Denzel thing. When I was twenty two. I

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didn't start acting until I was twenty four, so I

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came in late, like I didn't. I was a sports guy.

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I thought I was going to go professional MMA like

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I fought for since I was fifteen years old, Like literally,

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I was cage fighting and doing all that stuff. And

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so when I was twenty two, we'll go into the

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acting realm. When I hit like twenty three, twenty four.

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That's when I started acting, when all that kind of

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came about, of like oh man, I need to be

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here or I need to be there. It was a

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good solid two days where I would be like trying

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to push my way in somewhere, and then when I

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would get overwhelmed and all that noise would come, it's

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like I need to go for a walk. I need

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to go for to go literally go smell the roses.

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Like that is a real thing for me. I go

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walk down the street, I see what flowers I can find,

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and I go smell them. And you know, like I

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put my headphones on and I go for a walk.

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Mine's nature. So the answer is nature. Nature will always

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put me back into this quiet into I was sitting

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next to this guy the other day at an art

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shop and he's some artist and he's talking. He's like

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sixty something years old and we're just having a chat

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and he's like, I wait for the next download, and

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I go, what is that the next download? He goes

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from the source and I go okay, okay, and he goes,

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you got to put the phone up. You got to

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put all these things up. He sells a flip phone

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like and I go can you text on that thing?

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And you were just going back and forth. So it's

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like even within that I'm waiting for the next download

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means I need to put my technology away and I

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need to have a conversation with somebody I never talked

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to before. I think a lot of us, I can't

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speak for everybody, but like a lot of us miss that.

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We go to the coffee shop, we go to whatever,

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get in, we're in and out, we're in a rush,

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but like to sit down. Then I'm gonna type today

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and I'm typing, and then it's like I'm gonna put

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my computer away and I'm gonna talk to the person

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next to me. That is how I keep pushing to

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the next thing when I'm like I should be here, No,

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I should be here where I'm sitting talking to this

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person next to me. And that man like taught me

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something about wait for the next download, and I was

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like yeah, yeah. So like throughout the week I started

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going through it and I was like, yeah, I like that,

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I'm gonna wait for the next download. And it would

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just come to me like hey, stop worrying about Denzil

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and then go this way, go this way, go your

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downloads over here, Go sit next to burke Go, you know,

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go sit next to this guy. And I'm like, dang,

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that's that's cool, because yeah, I don't know what I

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don't know.

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You know, and everybody else seems to know the things

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that we're missing. Absolutely, do you remember us that you know? Like, honestly,

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I feel like everybody I meet in the wild, especially

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when you're deciding to be present and put your phone away,

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especially in lines. It happens a lot to me when

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you're waiting in line because everybody's on that. Like, you know,

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you look at a theme park line or a line

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to go into a big conference or whatever, and everybody's

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on their phones, and I put my phone away. And

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I have met and made friends with some of the

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most interesting people just waiting in lines, because we're all waiting,

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usually waiting in line for something we're super excited and

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super passionate about. So you get to talking about that,

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and all of a sudden you have a new soul

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sister or a new friend, and it's amazing. So you

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have your download friend, and I was but I'm wondering,

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because you do seem like the kind of person then

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that is that does this in the wild regularly, where

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you make the friends wherever you go. And I'm wondering,

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other than mister download, if there's another story like that

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that stands out to you of somebody interesting that you met,

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that you weren't expecting to have a conversation like that with.

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Because it sounds like this is a regular occurrence for you,

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and I want people to really like lean in and

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hear what you're saying, which is, we need to we

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need to remember that we have the gift of connection

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to so many people around us, and a lot of

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times we're missing it, and we're missing these opportunities. So

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talk me through another another situation with other than mister Yah.

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So I was sitting here. It was actually when I

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first came out to La I booked this film, and

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I'm working in the hills somewhere, you know, and we

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have to park a couple of streets over and I

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parked on this like near this retaining wall, this beautiful home,

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and I see this woman like fixing something, you know,

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I don't know, the retaining wall fell and I'm like, hey, hey,

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do you need a hand And she was like, oh

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my god, that'd be amazing, Like yeah, YEAHA, and I said,

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I'm actually filming right down there, so once I have

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my lunch break, I can come back up. And then

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she goes, oh my god, perfect, and she gives me

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your number and uh, she's probably sixties, you know, and

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she's like, I don't know how to fix no retaining wall,

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and she's like, I gotta call my guy. And so

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I had a solid two hour break, so I walked

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back up and I start fixing that and we're just

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chatting and she's like, yeah, my dad like build all

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these homes in this neighborhood. I go, what, like and yo,

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and then she goes, yeah, Robert Patrick lives next door,

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and I go oh, and She's like, come on over

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for like coffee, and I'm like yeah. As we're sitting

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there like having coffee, Robert Patrick's there, and I was

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like we started talking about motorcycles because I had a

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Harley and he owns one of the Harley dealerships over here,

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and so like small moment, Meryl Streeps lives right over there,

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and I'm like, wow, just being present and fixing a

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retaining wall, like you know, like I would just put

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up a couple of things. But it was it was

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the moment of I can take a break from whatever

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I'm thinking or doing and see somebody else's need, like

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I think for me, that was the that's the learning.

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I can go through so many stories of my life

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fe I'm driving somewhere, Oh, hey, this guy looks like

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he needs a hand. I have hands at work, I

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got feet at work, I got you know, and I

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have the time, you know, And so it's like I stopped,

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I helped, and it's not about like, oh I want

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to help you. It's hey, dude, you need a hand

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because it looks like you're about to drop this, you know.

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Because it's how I feel about, like, oh, man, if

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my grandpa was doing I always look at everybody is

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like if I knew them, Oh that's like my grandpa.

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Oh that's like my grandma. That's like my mom, that's

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like my sister. So it's like I try to do

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that the best. So that story with the woman her

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name's Linda, with Linda up in the hills, like oh,

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she gave me recommendations to all these coffee shops when

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cause I was my first time out in LA and

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I just started going there. I'm sitting there like going

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to these places, seeing people I'm having good conversations about

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with like writing scripts or like getting on set from

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one recommendation from one time I stopped and helped somebody.

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So it's like adding to my life. You know. I

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didn't expect anything from helping this lady. It was just

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helping and so. But it was the moment of having

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a coffee sitting there with her and then Robert Patrick.

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I was like, Yo, this is like literally how LA works.

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That's how my brain thought. I was like, oh, this

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is it. Just think connect.

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You know, that is unreal. Honestly, you know, I was

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gonna I was gonna ask you about an unreal moment

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that you had, and that that sounds pretty pretty spot on.

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I wouldn't even call that unreal, but.

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Like, tell me something, then tell me something unreal.

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Let's go unreal. Story. Yes, I had. I had thirty

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dollars to my name. I lived in Missouri. I took

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a train from Missouri to New York. After I bought

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my ticket, I had thirty dollars.

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Let's be let's be okay, So we're left with thirty

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dollars after we bought the ticket.

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Yes, and I was going to Denzel Washington had an

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acting school in New York, and my buddy Eric was

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like there studying for months and then I could drop

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into a class. I pretty much get to. The train.

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Ride took thirty three hours. It was ridiculous, and I

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finally make it too. It broke down halfway through and

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I'm like, dude, I need to be in this class,

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and like I'm looking at my fake watch. I was

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like in like twelve hours, you know, and there were

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like four hours out and I'm like, oh gosh, I'm

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not gonna make it. And I had never been to

442
00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:39.319
New York, so this is like my and I finally Anyways,

443
00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:41.880
we finally get it, or were halfway there in the

444
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:44.480
conduct not the conductor, but one of the what do

445
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:46.960
you call those guys, I don't know, like like a

446
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:50.279
flight attendant, but a train attendant right right. So he's

447
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:54.000
like he sees that I'm kind of antsy, and he's like, he,

448
00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:56.079
are you good. I was like, hey man, I am not.

449
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.319
This is not a you guys thing. I'm just I

450
00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:00.759
need to be somewhere quick. He was like, well, you

451
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.359
took the train so that the scartest bed, and I

452
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:05.720
was like, dude, I got like thirty bucks and he

453
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.279
was like okay, and he goes, where are you going?

454
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.279
I tell him and he's like, oh, ladies and gentlemen,

455
00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:11.319
we have an actor on board. I go no, he

456
00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:13.680
did not. There's like eight people on this train, like

457
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:16.839
you know. So it's like I'm like this, you know,

458
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:18.920
I put the hat down. I'm like, you know, one

459
00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:21.799
of those And so we ended up. He was still cool.

460
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:25.599
He was like, my son is right outside of by

461
00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.559
the Hudson and we can stop there. I can call

462
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:31.119
him and he can drive you into the city. And

463
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.799
I was like, whoa, that's cool. But the train got

464
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:35.359
up and move in and we got there in time

465
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:39.319
and shook hands and I did the most New York

466
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:42.359
thing ever. I went to the Grand Central, you know,

467
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:46.559
the station, and I jumped over the thing you're supposed

468
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.119
to pay for the you don't talk about like I've

469
00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.440
seen that in every single movie in my entire life.

470
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:52.920
So I was like, I have to do it. I

471
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:53.799
got one backpack.

472
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.079
I threw it over. My life is a movie, right now,

473
00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:56.440
Let's go.

474
00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:00.240
And I look back and I go sweet, and I

475
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.400
just kept going. I was like, wow, I don't condone

476
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:04.319
that for anybody, But that was hilarious. It was like

477
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:06.160
my first time in New York and so I was like,

478
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:07.839
I need to do this, and so I did it,

479
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:12.000
and then I walk to I don't know, some spot

480
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:14.960
and then we get to Harlem and then I mean,

481
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.720
what was unreal was we did the whole class did that.

482
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.599
I got fifteen dollars to my name. I take a

483
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.079
train to Buffalo. I don't know why. I don't know

484
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:26.839
why I took it to Buffalo. I just did it.

485
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.079
And I was like, can this get me somewhere? And

486
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.319
they're yeah, Buffalo is like perfect, go to Buffalo. I'm

487
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.119
sitting at Niagara Falls and I'm like, how am I

488
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:37.440
going to get back home? How on earth am I

489
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.839
going to get back to Missouri. I'm in Buffalo, New

490
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:43.160
York looking at the Niagara Falls, and all of a sudden,

491
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:46.279
I'm just like looking over and I see my two

492
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:51.640
best friends from Missouri. Oh, they just got engaged. They

493
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.680
literally went to Niagara Falls got engaged. I had no idea,

494
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.160
and I go, damn, hey, okay, it's so loud. There've

495
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:04.839
never been it's so and I'm like, I hear I

496
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.920
just run over there, and I think I interrupted, you know,

497
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.759
their engagement. But like my friends I've known since freshman

498
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:16.240
year of high school. And I was like, oh my god.

499
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.119
And they were like, well, all excited and they're like,

500
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.440
what are you doing here? I said, I'm bumming it,

501
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:23.640
you know. And then then they go, sweet, I go,

502
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.160
can I ride back home with you? Please? And they're

503
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.839
like yeah, And so we stop off in Boston, stay

504
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:30.759
the night in Boston, and then we made it all

505
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.519
the way back to Missouri. That was a story, Like

506
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:36.920
that was a time of my life where I had

507
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.920
no idea what was going to happen. My friends show

508
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.359
up my like right there. My mom had no money,

509
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.480
my dad had no money, you know, like my family

510
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:49.920
can say hell, we'll pay for your plane ticket. It's

511
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.039
like I got myself into this, you know, and God

512
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:55.839
needs to unreel me out please.

513
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.599
Right And he did and he did.

514
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.599
That's so cool that I trust and love and it

515
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:05.119
made it even better. So that's my New York experience.

516
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.680
That is the coolest story. Thank you for sharing that.

517
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.519
My goodness. I'm like, I said, it's like a movie

518
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.319
scene and I need to know what happened. You had

519
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.599
thirty dollars and then you had fifteen dollars. What did

520
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.799
we spend the fifteen dollars on food?

521
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:26.240
New York sliced pizza, coffee, coffee, and your was expensive.

522
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.440
I did not. I went to that like the hole

523
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.400
in the wall spot and it was like five bucks,

524
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.519
and I was like, bro, this is Can I get

525
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.920
a smaller cup like a pup cup please? And you

526
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:37.079
know something like that.

527
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.279
Just give me the web cream, Yeah, somethin please.

528
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.759
Just the beans, you know, I'll just eat I'll eat

529
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:43.680
the beans. You know.

530
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:48.319
Are you on time for the class?

531
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:53.279
Oh? The class was beautiful. Yeah. I that was like

532
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.480
an awakening moment for me because I'm half Sicilian and

533
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.799
half black, right, and so I grew up with just

534
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.920
my Sicilian side and then being in New York and

535
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.279
it was like an African drummer came and she was

536
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.119
playing and the teacher was like talking about how music

537
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.720
and acting are like hand in hand, and for me,

538
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:14.839
I really only wanted to be an actor so I

539
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.559
could be in a rock band. That was it. That

540
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:19.839
was literally it. I was like nobody in Missouri wanted

541
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.079
to be in a rock band with me, not with me,

542
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.480
Like no, everybody was about hip hop or like different

543
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.359
genres and that's just the people I was around. And

544
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.400
so it was very hard to get like a jam

545
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.960
band going like hey you play drums, guitar, you know,

546
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:37.920
I sang, And it was so hard. But like once

547
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:43.519
music and acting came together for me, it clicked. I

548
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.559
was like, this scene is this song. So every like

549
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:51.079
character I have he listens to this, this moment is

550
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.839
this song, this time is you know what I'm saying.

551
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.319
And I can like literally listen to it, put myself

552
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.240
in it and then to go. And so for me,

553
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.599
when the drummer came, it was just all soul. It

554
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.200
was like I feel my soul is like shaking and awake,

555
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.079
and it's like ah, you know. And and they were

556
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.720
like act, just go, just be real, and it was

557
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:20.079
all about being raw, being vulnerable. And then like for me,

558
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:24.839
it was like this awakening of mixing of my black

559
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:26.960
side and then my white side, and it just I

560
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:31.359
kind of all, I don't know, just dance you know together,

561
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:35.799
and I go, Okay, I think I know who I'm becoming,

562
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.319
you know, like this is kind of who I am.

563
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.640
I've always been grounded with music, and then now it's

564
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.119
with my voice and my body and movement and like

565
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.240
all these things. I go, wow, I'm like an instrument.

566
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.720
And so that's when I started learning more about myself.

567
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.720
I was probably like twenty three twenty four at that time,

568
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:56.759
and I was just like learning so much about myself

569
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.599
and like what I was scared of of myself? You know,

570
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:02.599
like I never felt like, oh I was black enough

571
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.720
or I was white enough. I was like never really there,

572
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:09.839
you know. It was just kind of like okay, yeah,

573
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.519
DJ School, Yeah, yeah, it's like his white side. And

574
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.359
I was like what I was, like, that sounds crazy, bro,

575
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.279
Like what does that mean? You know? And so yeah,

576
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.279
like I was always battling with identity, you know, and

577
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:22.759
and self.

578
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.160
So and music helps you find that.

579
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.880
Music not even helps me find it. It helps me say.

580
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:35.359
It helps me not even like look at it as

581
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.279
a problem or like a question mark. It's just like

582
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.880
who I am? You like this song? Like if you

583
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.759
go through my Spotify, oh man, I mean I'm talking

584
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.319
George Jones, Waylon Jennings all the way to Kendrick and

585
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:53.759
Jid and like everybody in between. And so yeah, like

586
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.480
my mom was a she beat boxed and like was

587
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:58.680
all about hip hop, you know, and I was like,

588
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:01.720
I'm alright with that. Like when I was a kid,

589
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:03.440
I loved it. I was like the beats are hey,

590
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:05.640
we're in the car jamming. And then like the older

591
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:07.440
I got, the more like I'm like listening to the

592
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.640
Johnny Cash and she's like what is this? Like why

593
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.160
we don't listen to Johnny Cash in our house? And

594
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:17.519
I was like I do it like awakened my soul

595
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.759
because the lyrics of what he said is how I felt,

596
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.240
And that's how I resonated with music so much. It

597
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.359
was lyrics not I mean, obviously the music in itself

598
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.680
percussion was beautiful. But when I was like, my stepdad

599
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.279
used to teach me the drums and he was like,

600
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.799
you're not a drummer. I was like, I was so upset.

601
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.640
I was crushed. I mean I was probably like six

602
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.400
years old. I was so crushed. He bought me this

603
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.880
awesome pearl drum set and I'm like, hey, I'm going

604
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.279
in and he's like trying to teach me. He's trying

605
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.200
to teach me to the band Bush. Like there was

606
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.839
this song like hey, I love that band. I love

607
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.880
that band, and so he's trying to teach me this

608
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.640
song and he realized. He goes, you're going to the

609
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.599
singer's cadence, and he goes, you're not a drummer, You're

610
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.759
a singer. And I was like, I don't know about that.

611
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.240
And like the more and more I played the drums,

612
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:10.359
the worst I got. Like I was like, yeah, he's right,

613
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.880
this isn't it for your boy? Like this is And

614
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.480
so it was before the time with the headphones on

615
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.279
and the quiet drums. It was loud and we were

616
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:23.319
in an apartment and so I ended up just singing lyrics.

617
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.480
I had all these trophies in my room when I

618
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:27.920
was a kid, and I would put them like in

619
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.920
front of me, and I had like one soccer trophy,

620
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.200
like the dude was doing a huge bicycle kick and

621
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.920
there was a soccer ball and I used to use

622
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.799
that as the microphone, and so I would put it

623
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:38.519
in front of me and I would like be singing

624
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.720
system of the Down and I was I don't know.

625
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:42.480
I was like ten years old, and my mom's like,

626
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.839
now I look back, I go, God, that's probably why

627
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.400
I got so many issues with government, and like I'm

628
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.519
listening to this, I'm listening to this band, and my

629
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.480
mom has no idea what's going on in the song.

630
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.960
But I was like, singing these lyrics, but I felt.

631
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.799
What I felt from that was it was a compassion.

632
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.319
I was like, Wow, these people are really hurting and

633
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.839
they're singing something that's important and it resonated with my soul.

634
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.759
And then therefore, years later acting does the same thing.

635
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.640
It's like, Wow, this guy in this scene is going

636
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.400
through X, Y, and Z and this is his interpretation

637
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:20.200
of the world. I can be that because I've felt that,

638
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.119
and so yeah, it all kind of just Jim, like

639
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:25.599
you know, went together.

640
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.720
Well, you talked about movement too. We've been talking a

641
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.519
lot about music and you mentioned you actually said the

642
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.279
word movement when you were looking to ground yourself. You

643
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.799
get outside and you you go and smell the roses,

644
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.079
which I love because I love fresh flowers. They bring

645
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.559
me the most sincere form of joy, second to music.

646
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.759
But the movement part of that. You know what, what

647
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.519
in you You had a very active childhood with the

648
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.039
with the MMA and that kind of stuff. How do

649
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:59.079
you stay active now and what role does movement play

650
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:03.559
in how you're how you're developing who you're becoming.

651
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.839
Yeah, I skateboard a BMX.

652
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.320
Uh skateboarding?

653
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:12.920
Oh yeah, skating and BMX. I've been doing that since

654
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:13.480
I was a kid.

655
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:14.679
Like, how fun is that?

656
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.639
Yeah, it's it's out in La. It's not because I

657
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.159
got it's crazy. It's super fun, but like it's so

658
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.239
you have your heads on a swool. Why I got

659
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.800
hit by a car already? I've been twice. I've been

660
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.039
hit by a car since I've lived out here. It's crazy.

661
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:29.800
Wow, you're skateboarding.

662
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.559
Yeah. I was skating and then all of a sudden,

663
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.599
I just boom. I'm like, what was that? And then

664
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:38.000
I look in the it's funny. It's so funny, but

665
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.360
it's not. It's not. It is I laughing because I'm okay,

666
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.760
but like in a movie, it's hilarious. I got hit

667
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.039
by I'm like oh, and I'm like looking the car

668
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:50.960
took off and I'm like all right, like excuse me.

669
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:56.119
You know. It's so it's like that's how I still do.

670
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:59.559
I still skateboard. I still be a mex I and

671
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:04.480
what it. It's not like, Okay, it's time to go skateboard.

672
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:09.840
It's like, man, I'm antsy, there's nothing going on. It's

673
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:11.719
like I'm gonna go skate It's a great day out.

674
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.239
See if I can hit this heel flip or something like,

675
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.760
I'm gonna I go do something different, you know, I

676
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.760
put down what I was doing and then go do

677
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:23.400
something different. And honestly, when I skateboard or I bike,

678
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.000
I literally feel like I'm back in Missouri, like I

679
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:27.719
feel like a kid. I feel like I'm thirteen years

680
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:31.199
old again, just kind of like going around. And when

681
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.159
I shaved my face, there was just I brought my

682
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.280
skateboard up to down the street. I went to the

683
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.000
bar and I was like, hey, can I get like

684
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.320
a you know, a butler whatever beer? And then I

685
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:42.519
was like, can I see your ID? And I was

686
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.320
He's like, who comes in here with a skateboard? And

687
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:48.599
I was like, oh yeah, I forgot like grown men

688
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.199
don't kind of skateboard around here a lot. I like it.

689
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.679
I don't know. And he was like, what are you thirteen?

690
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.679
And I was like I was like, no, dude, and

691
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.559
uh so like little things like that, I forget. Oh

692
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.039
people don't really go and do what they used to

693
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:06.960
do when they were kids. Like for me, it's the

694
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.920
same Like I got to play hockey the other day.

695
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.519
I played hockey growing up, and so I did it

696
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.119
on set I was playing ice hockey, you know, I

697
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.440
thought like little things like that. I was like, wow,

698
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.639
I got paid to play hockey, and I love hockey.

699
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:23.159
I spent most of my time outside playing hockey, and

700
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:26.079
so yeah, I tried to do whatever I can to

701
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:29.239
get back to that, you know, little kid DJ of

702
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:36.280
not caring, not worrying about tomorrow. What's that gonna do?

703
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.320
What about this? Oh? I can't get my pants dirty?

704
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.119
Like no, I think every single pair of jeans I

705
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.559
have have a hole in them, Like not because I

706
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:46.679
bought them that way, because it's something I did, and

707
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.079
they just got bigger. And I was like I missed that.

708
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.159
There was a good salad three years when I was

709
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.639
like really trying to act, you know, really go for

710
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:58.519
it that I got a different wardrobe. I made sure

711
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.760
my stuff was all pressed and clean, and I was like, bro,

712
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.239
that's not me. I was stressing. I was like, I

713
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.639
can't get my shoes dirty. I go, I've had the

714
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.639
same pair of Doc Martins for ten years. It's like, yeah,

715
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.920
I get those things dirty. You know that's what they're finding, right, Yeah, yeah,

716
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.880
you know, and I yeah, the closer I got, or

717
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.039
the further away I got from that kid version of myself,

718
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.559
the worst and more chaotic my life got because I

719
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.519
thought I had to be something different, and then my

720
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.559
acting got worse. I was trying to put on like

721
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:31.159
I was trying to act for real. And then once

722
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.840
I kind of too left that and went back to me.

723
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.400
Oh man, everything got smoother, everything got sweeter, everything was

724
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.400
more fun. I could play. That's how when I go

725
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.400
to work, I play. I go play, and so it's

726
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.639
like it got back to that.

727
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.159
So, yeah, what a cool thing to think about when

728
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.400
you go back to yourself and find your Honestly, it

729
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.360
bases a little bit in self love, even when you

730
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.880
when you think about how you love on that younger

731
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.559
version of you that may or may not have understood

732
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:11.280
why you even needed to do that. Later, it's so

733
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.360
cool to think about how you came home. You come

734
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.719
home to yourself to find peace but also just to

735
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:22.360
have fun and and and I think we we could

736
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.920
all do that better. I don't know how, you know,

737
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.000
I'm trying to formulate in my head kind of a

738
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.440
question around that, because I just I wonder how people

739
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:36.679
can adopt that mindset better about just finding joy in

740
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.920
the simple like, honestly, the simplest things that you used

741
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.559
to find joy, and we we get so jaded over life.

742
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.679
You know, life happens, and and things make us, they

743
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.239
make us grow up and stop dreaming and stop playing

744
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:53.159
with skateboards because that's what kids do. Well, yes, and

745
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:54.360
how do we?

746
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:55.400
How do we? How do we?

747
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:57.920
I mean honestly that that's I guess that's the question, Like,

748
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:01.320
how how would you? Because it's sounds it sounds great

749
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.360
in theory, and I think there's a level of just

750
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:11.280
adulting that that kills anybody's desire or ability to be

751
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.000
a kid in their in their life. So how would

752
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.039
how would you coach somebody through that? Like how what

753
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.159
would you say to someone that is struggling with how

754
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:21.719
to find themselves again or how to how to embrace

755
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.039
that inner child or even just give that inner child

756
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.159
a hug? How would you? How would you talk them

757
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:26.480
through that?

758
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.880
Yeah, honestly, I would do. The biggest thing for me

759
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:35.679
was not everything needs to be monetized, that is what

760
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:40.400
that is. The clicker for me was, oh, I gotta

761
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:46.320
I gotta somehow turn this into something that someone may

762
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.559
or may not see for X y Z that there

763
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.360
was like eight steps I just talked about and I

764
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.519
was like, I was not good at school, you know,

765
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.840
so all these things that I was like, I was

766
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:00.000
adding more to my plate when I wasn't even hungry.

767
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.159
I was like, no, I I'll just take the chicken nuggets,

768
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:08.199
you know, like how just eat these chicken nuggets right here?

769
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.519
And when you look at kids. One, I worked at

770
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:15.119
a school, so I got to see children be children

771
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.000
and how much fun they were having and how much

772
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:20.679
like joy it was, and like a simple game of

773
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.760
like four square, And I said I would like I

774
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:26.800
taught for five years, so I got to see a

775
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:30.519
lot of that, right, And so I'm sitting here thinking

776
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.639
like I would coach somebody through it. It's like, well,

777
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.000
when you pick your kid up or someone you're your

778
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.599
brother whatever from school, look how happy they or look

779
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.480
how like their life is full? Hey, what are we

780
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:46.079
doing next? And so I put myself in the same position,

781
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.400
but with God being that father figure or that brother

782
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:55.000
right and saying DJ, how was school today? How was

783
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.199
work today? How was your you know? And I'm like this,

784
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.639
it sucked. I was bored. I was this and then

785
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.440
and like how would my mom. She would go outside

786
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.760
and play out, don't come back in until the street

787
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:11.360
lights come on. Like go outside, go hang out with James,

788
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.199
go hang out with Daniel, go hang out with your friends.

789
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.159
Like go. And so it's like I look at God

790
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:17.880
telling me the same thing. And then in the scripture

791
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.719
where it says Jesus talks about living life to the fullest, Okay,

792
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.239
what does that mean? Not partying, not going out and

793
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.000
getting drunk. Not that like what made me fool as

794
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:34.159
a child? Play movement right, Like my boy Joe Murtha

795
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.559
and I would go for hours in the creek. I

796
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.320
mean we would just walk, see how far we could walk,

797
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.920
and we look back, We're like, bro, it's dark. It

798
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.800
is like it took us an hour to get here. Shoot,

799
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:49.639
and then we had to go all the way back

800
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.800
and his mom's sitting outside like this, where were you?

801
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.840
And I was like, oh, mud all over our face,

802
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.440
and I'm like she's like, get in the shower, go

803
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:03.519
you know, Like it was very simple and obviously like

804
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:05.559
adults aren't going around and walking through creeks and stuff.

805
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.719
But it's like what that did was go be adventurous.

806
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.559
If someone's like it, will say nowadays, like older like

807
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:17.559
adults go for drive. Just don't put a destination, just

808
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:23.599
go listen to your song, you know, jam out and

809
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.840
be okay with not doing something. I think that was

810
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.719
the biggest learning point for me, was like could I

811
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.400
actually just sit and like read? Could I just not

812
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:39.559
do anything? Yeah? And it's quiet and it's peaceful, and

813
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.639
I can like hear myself think. And my wife's so funny.

814
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.320
She's like, can we turn the TV on? Or so

815
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.440
I need some noise, I need something in the background.

816
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.840
And I was like, hmm, okay, go ahead. And I

817
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.679
was like a lot of people can't sit with themselves.

818
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.639
And I've gone through a lot of therapy. I've gone

819
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.119
through a lot of like you know, groups, you know,

820
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.239
And I was like, majority of the time it is

821
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:04.760
because people can't really listen to their own body. Like

822
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.519
your body will tell you what is something's going on,

823
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.960
and it's not like one plus one equals too. It's

824
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.280
like my heart's racing, or my stomach's and notts, or

825
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:18.079
my skin's doing something funky, and I'm like, oh, something's

826
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.679
not right. Am I lying to my and like acting

827
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.639
in itself. My coach Dustin back in Arizona huge. He's

828
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:26.599
like a not just a coach, he's like my mentoring's

829
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.039
a good buddy of mine. We ride Harley's together and stuff.

830
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:34.840
So he actually says like people who are actors or

831
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:38.400
people who watch actors and watch TV are watching something

832
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.880
that they wish they could be or do, like, oh,

833
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.239
I wish my life looked like that, or I wish

834
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.880
this that and the other. So for us, we have

835
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.000
to sincerely be that thing. Right. So for me, it's

836
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.199
like I experience those things. I have a lot of

837
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.280
experiences in my life. So therefore when I speak to people,

838
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.320
they're like, yo, dude, you're contagious. Are your high? I'm like,

839
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.840
it's it's just life, you know. It's like my life

840
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.559
is full of just energy, you know. And so but

841
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.719
I was able to sit there and quiet and stillness

842
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.440
and then just like wrestle with those thoughts and wrestle

843
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:18.079
with those like, oh, I should be here by now.

844
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:21.719
You know, I'm thirty, Now I should be I should

845
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.320
have been an Oscar winner already, like all those kind

846
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.079
of things, right, And it's like yeah, and I take

847
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:32.679
it further, Yeah I should what happened or why? And

848
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.639
I don't criticize myself. I legit asked the question like

849
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.039
why do I think that? And then I stop and

850
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.119
I don't lie to myself, and I go because I've

851
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.400
seen it on social media. I see my friend did it,

852
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.679
or my friend got that role, or or I look

853
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:49.960
at Denzel's past and I'm like he was twenty five

854
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.440
when he made this movie. I've missed my chance. And

855
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.000
it's like, what, that's crazy. And so I always sit

856
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.480
in those dark moments with myself. One. I know I'm

857
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.159
not alone those dark moments, So that's like number one.

858
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.480
So it's like I know I can go there. I

859
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.440
know I can wrestle with my own thoughts. And I'm

860
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:10.440
gonna be honest, those thoughts aren't even my thoughts. I

861
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:12.800
don't know where those came from. Those are just implanted

862
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.519
in me somewhere by watching something or whatever. But it's

863
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.199
like I can wrestle with those because I know, like, yeah,

864
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.199
that's not true. Get out, get out my house, Like

865
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.079
that's how I how I talk to it. I'm like,

866
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.960
get out, you're not not there, and so like to

867
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.400
coach somebody through like going back to that, it's like

868
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.679
one being okay with sitting in silence and wrestling with thoughts.

869
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:37.440
If you can't like really like sit and you need

870
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.960
to do something journal it, Like I literally have a

871
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.440
JOURNALI it's as lies, and I will write all the

872
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.199
lies that I'm hearing or I'm telling myself, and then

873
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.920
I go to the next page, I go truths. What

874
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.719
are the truths in my life? What is true? Right?

875
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.679
And I'll even ask the question what is truth? What

876
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:55.639
is that you know? And then I will wrestle with

877
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.000
that and I just go and I go and I go,

878
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:03.039
and then it kind of clears. It clears things for me,

879
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.360
and it makes it less scary or less messy, you know.

880
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.400
The lies and the truths. Yeah, that's a that's a

881
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:16.079
powerful journal prompt right there to think through those and

882
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.599
you start, you start, you said, with the lies before

883
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.719
you write the truths. And isn't that interesting? And what

884
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.800
I mean You've probably learned so much that way, truly

885
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.880
about yourself, and it applies to so much of what

886
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.400
you do. So that's just I'm just I'm processing that

887
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.960
because that is a very interesting way to think and

888
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.239
pivot your own mindset in real time and talk yourself

889
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.599
through the darkness in real time, which is something we

890
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:46.480
could all use right now. So you've mentioned you'r Harley

891
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.000
more than once, and I am from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, so

892
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:56.400
I am Harleigh Harley Bill. So my friends on the

893
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.960
internet on the TikTok had asked a question earlier about

894
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.760
out two things. Actually was kind of a two point question.

895
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.599
The first one was given that you love Harley's we

896
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.880
were wondering if you've been to the Milwaukee area. And

897
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:12.719
the second part of that question is she actually found

898
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:14.639
something out about you that I didn't know, which is

899
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.440
that you have a goal and maybe this is what

900
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.239
you can tell me if it's accurate, but you have

901
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:22.760
a goal to visit all of the states, spent two

902
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.360
nights in every state. And I want to hear about that.

903
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.280
I want to hear about that that idea, and about

904
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.199
the Harleys, and about like if you're I mean, and

905
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.559
you need to come Milwaukee if you haven't already.

906
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.519
I will. So it's funny my cousin used to I

907
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.239
don't know if you watch baseball or anything, but my

908
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.960
cousin used to be the pitcher for the Brewers. Yeah,

909
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.000
Devin Williams. So it's like she was always like, Devin,

910
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:44.239
I gotta come out, and then he went to New

911
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.000
York and now he's I was like, oh, well, so

912
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:47.239
I will come out to Milwaukee.

913
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.039
I have not, Yes, let's go.

914
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.239
I have not, but I will, especially because when we

915
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.760
go back to Missouri and then my wife's from Michigan,

916
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.480
so it's like we're all right in that area. So

917
00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:59.920
I definitely have to come swing by and I'll come out.

918
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.440
I got the Harley's and so yeah. The goal actually

919
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.440
came from when I was like twenty one, twenty two ish,

920
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.480
that kind of age range. I said, I want to

921
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:16.960
spend one year in every single state. That's what I

922
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.280
told myself. And then I started doing math and I go, dang,

923
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:21.360
I'm gonna be old.

924
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:28.280
And I was like, I was like, no, it's a

925
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:29.480
great idea in theory.

926
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:31.800
So two days I spent it. The two days I

927
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:32.559
spent like a weekend.

928
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.199
Like I went from my year to two days.

929
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:39.000
It went from a year to a month, and then

930
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:44.440
it trickled down to two weeks, and then it went

931
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:49.079
to two days. I go, I could do to like

932
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.519
a weekend. I'll even cut it the three. I can

933
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.159
do a Friday, Saturday and Sunday in every single state

934
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.920
I've been to like I've done that already, like fourteen states,

935
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:04.880
and so yeah, like that's just still the goal, Like

936
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.199
it's still I want to go to every cause I

937
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.519
wanted to work. I wanted The reason I said a

938
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.599
year was because I wanted to work in every single state.

939
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:18.039
I wanted to get off of work, go to the

940
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.079
local dive bar and see what the you know, like

941
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.159
the people are like like that's how it was in Missouri.

942
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:27.519
I learned a lot about people going too, like the

943
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.079
small hardware store talking to the guy or the small

944
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.639
diner and like the townspeople, right and just like what

945
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:38.320
is this place really? Like you know, California is so great?

946
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.960
Yeah yeah, yeah, but it's like do you even know

947
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.960
like the small little, you know, taco shop down the street,

948
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.039
Like those guys are so cool and they have like

949
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.840
the coolest stories and their la originals not transplants, right,

950
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.079
Like that's what I wanted to do. Like I wanted

951
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:59.000
to go and feel and live and experience Milwaukee, right

952
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.079
like I wanted to go. New Orleans is like one

953
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.800
of my favorite cities. Walking down the street and then

954
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.239
some lady just waving me and my buddy's over. She

955
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:13.079
was cooking crawfish on like a big pot on her

956
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.760
front porch, and she goes, you guys want to like join.

957
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.679
I mean she had the rocking chairs. We're sitting there

958
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:23.440
drinking lemonade. Yo. We say hey, hey, what's going on, guys,

959
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:27.079
and we're hanging out. And I thought, this is to me,

960
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:31.800
that was life. That's life is experiencing new people, having

961
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.599
people come over, sit on your porch, drinking lemonade, you know,

962
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:40.639
some type of seafood broil, and here goes, here's where

963
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:43.639
people will always shift. Yeah, we should make a show

964
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.039
about it. We should do this. And I go, you

965
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.320
donet took it out. You done took the magic. It

966
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.880
took the life out of it. Once you start trying

967
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.400
to monetize something. It took the experience out. My buddies

968
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:55.920
and I didn't care about any of that. We were

969
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:59.159
just chilling, like God, I'm thirsty, and God, thank you

970
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.599
for this, you know. And to me, that's what I

971
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.440
want to do through each state. I want to like

972
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.679
go find like that's why I love the South so much,

973
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:11.079
because it's very Yeah, yeah, yoh, come on, that's kind

974
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.000
of what it is. And the same thing happened in Texas.

975
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.239
When I went to Austin, it was the same thing.

976
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:20.000
Guy comes over, he's sitting there cleaning his shotgun. There's

977
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.360
a big old, you know, bush beer right there, and

978
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.119
he's like, man, let me tell you about this boot.

979
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.360
And he's talking about his boots. And I was like,

980
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.320
I love boots. I love boots. Let's talk about it,

981
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:34.920
you know. And to me, that's that are those are

982
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.880
experiences of life that you can't I mean, yeah, you

983
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.320
can pay for it, but like you can't. Really, that's

984
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:43.480
not on like a on a trip Advisor. That's that's

985
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.320
not on a sheet, you know. It's you go experience and.

986
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:52.679
Through the people, Yeah, through the people that live there.

987
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.159
And that's the coolest part of everything you're saying is

988
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:58.880
that it's it's all based in people and relationships, and

989
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:03.599
a red thread in your whole life story is the

990
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:08.679
stories and storytelling. It's really cool, honestly. And I want

991
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:11.920
to know how far along on the fifty States journey

992
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:13.800
are you? How many states do you have left?

993
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.159
I'm on I'm only on thirteen.

994
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.840
Okay, all right, we got we got some progress.

995
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:22.840
Wait, I get a lot of like, oh, I'm going

996
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.000
to go here and then I get a call, hey

997
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.679
we're shooting this for a week, or Hey we're gonna

998
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.880
go do this, and I'm like it almost kids me.

999
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:34.880
It's like I need to make money, and I'm like

1000
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.400
I need to work, and I'm like, can we figure

1001
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.760
out a way that we can shoot in Arkansas? I

1002
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.039
haven't been there yet, you know. And I have a

1003
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.280
lot of places to go, and it's a lot a

1004
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.519
lot of it's the East. I need to go, like Maine.

1005
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:58.039
I everywhere up East besides New York, Boston or Massachusetts.

1006
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.599
And then those are my two East places. And I

1007
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.159
went to the Carolinas and so but all that up

1008
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.199
and there I need to to go. And then like

1009
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:15.079
the Pacific, like the Pacific, like Alaska and Seattle or

1010
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.440
I've been Seattle, not like Oregon. I haven't been to Oregon.

1011
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.760
There's still one Blockbuster left in Oregon. That's all. I'll

1012
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.880
talk about that for a second. It's in Ben Oregon.

1013
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.840
For everybody's listening, Ben Oregon still has one Blockbuster left.

1014
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.159
It's crazy. They're probably gonna close after I say this,

1015
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.760
but uh, you know, it's so I want to go

1016
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:36.360
to the Blockbuster. Like that's I love Blockbuster yes, So, yeah,

1017
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.039
I've been to a lot of places in the South

1018
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:50.880
and Georgia, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, obviously New Orleans or Louisiana. Yeah,

1019
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:53.199
I've been a lot over there. Obviously out here on

1020
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:59.239
this side. I lived in Arizona for a few years, Utah. Yeah,

1021
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.559
like I've been all where we are in this on

1022
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:05.000
this coast side, I've been everywhere over here, MISSI middle

1023
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.800
of the map I've been to. So I'm pushing. I

1024
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.159
got a lot. I thought I had a lot, and

1025
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:14.039
then I look at I'm like, gosh, so many's there's

1026
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.920
so many into Hawaii is like a country away, and

1027
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.159
I'm like geeesh, man. But I'm here in California, so

1028
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.639
it's not too far right. So in the Korea, I

1029
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:24.320
did that whole thing. I went over to Korea and

1030
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:27.519
shot at Disney Show, even though that's not in the States,

1031
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:29.159
but hey, I got to spend some time there.

1032
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.599
That's really cool. Speaking of that, speaking of of what

1033
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:35.480
you're shooting, I want to talk through we have a

1034
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.440
little little bit of time left. I wanted to make

1035
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.800
sure that you had a chance to talk through some

1036
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.320
of your current work and just talk through where people

1037
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:46.360
can find you, how people can support you, and where

1038
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:48.760
people can learn more about everything that's going on in

1039
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:49.199
your world.

1040
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.440
Yeah, for sure. The main thing is obviously my instagram

1041
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.239
is Peeper Acting. That's p I E p e R.

1042
00:54:56.320 --> 00:55:00.320
And then acting, and then my website same thing people act,

1043
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.039
and that's kind of like your updated version, like everything

1044
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.719
that's happening live in real time is kind of ig

1045
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.760
or my website. And then obviously you can go on

1046
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.440
just google dj Peeper, and then there's all my stuff

1047
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:17.679
and shows. I actually New York Times just put Star

1048
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:24.559
People on the top five must watch sci fis so

1049
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:27.440
that was pretty dope.

1050
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:29.280
Amazing.

1051
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:33.239
Yeah, yeah, it's really cool. So that's cool. You can

1052
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:36.320
watch it on Amazon, and I'm sure it's other places,

1053
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.800
but I know for sure it's on Amazon. So that

1054
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:42.480
and then right now the Disney Show is kind of

1055
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.960
like on a pause because something happened with the main

1056
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.920
actor all kinds. I'm sure you could google that and

1057
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.320
all that will come up, So that puts our work

1058
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.960
on pause for a little bit. So but when I

1059
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.599
right now, what I'm pushing is that book, like and

1060
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:59.199
that's not even like I'm trying to sell it, it's

1061
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.679
just like, you're gonna love this. I am a creative hustle.

1062
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:06.400
Like it's literally what I do. I I dress up

1063
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.039
as an Amazon guy. I call myself Jimmy, and I'm like,

1064
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.800
I dress up as Jimmy. And I have this book,

1065
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.519
which is the Anti Fashionism Book. It's a huge red

1066
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.559
book when in the A and the anti has like

1067
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:23.320
the anarchy symbol and it's all about like not, hey,

1068
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:25.400
you gotta wear this, you gotta wear that, you gotta

1069
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.559
wear this to look cool, you gotta do this. Like

1070
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.760
trends go up and down, they're in and they're out,

1071
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:33.119
and I get it's business, but it's like for me,

1072
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:38.960
it's I've had the same clothes in same style forever. Obviously,

1073
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:40.400
if I like something, I change it. I'm like, oh

1074
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.719
that's cool. I like it. But I wake up, I'm like,

1075
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.440
what do I feel like today? What do I feel like?

1076
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:48.800
Where am I going? Okay? Cool? And my wife's so well,

1077
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:51.039
she's like going through She'll look at trends. She's like

1078
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.920
this is in fall. This is nice, and she's like,

1079
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.880
I really inspired by this, and she like it's super

1080
00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.039
creative for it. And so she gets to put pieces

1081
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.920
together and I'm like, see, that's not fashion to me.

1082
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:05.639
That style. You're like, I like this with this and

1083
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:09.599
this and this versus this magazine said you can't wear

1084
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:11.800
denim no more. I'm like, are they going to buy

1085
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.280
my new wardrobe? I'm sorry, is the fashion industry buying

1086
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.960
my clothes? I didn't know that? And so like, I

1087
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:20.719
think I really just don't like people telling me what

1088
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.159
to do. And I think I having a problem with

1089
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:23.840
an authority.

1090
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.000
We could dig into that. Remember that was the daddy issues.

1091
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.039
We didn't get daddy issues. It is, I'm telling you

1092
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:32.719
it is. It's like, if you're not in my life

1093
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:34.639
here it is ready. If you're not in my life,

1094
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:36.920
my dad, why are you telling me what to do?

1095
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.119
That's kind of what it is. You're not seeing my

1096
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.840
day to day. How can you tell me to spend

1097
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.119
one hundred and fifty dollars on a T shirt when

1098
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:48.280
I have three hundred in my bank account. It's like,

1099
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.159
but people do it because they want to stay up

1100
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:53.760
with the trends, keeping up with the Jones is. And

1101
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:56.000
I was like, that's not me. My mom and I

1102
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.639
were broke poor, so we didn't have we didn't know

1103
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.480
who the Jones were. And so it's like, you know,

1104
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:04.400
and so we just kind of rocked what we did

1105
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:06.800
and it gave us this confidence of like owning what

1106
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.880
we got. And so the Anti Fashion Book is all

1107
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.239
about that. It's like photos and then I have like

1108
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.440
sections where I like leave prompts. There's a section I'm

1109
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:19.599
like staring in the mirror and the next page is

1110
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:21.880
like a prompt that says how many masks have you

1111
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.480
worn in your life? And it like lets you sit

1112
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:28.559
and think. And so what I do is I have

1113
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:32.199
this book and I'll dress up as Jimmy and I

1114
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:36.320
go all to these agencies and managers and then they

1115
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.519
let me in because they think I'm an Amazon guy.

1116
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.440
And I'm like, hey, I got this package for Austin

1117
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:44.440
at Buckwall Talent and they're like, oh yeah, I just

1118
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.159
leave right here. I'm like, cool, I need a signature.

1119
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:48.199
I want to see this man. I want to see

1120
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:50.480
who this person is. And they're like oh yeah, yeahh

1121
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.320
and they signed and I'm like cool, I'll stare a

1122
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:55.559
little bit, so like you recognize that when you open

1123
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:58.480
this book it's gonna be me. I'm like cool, thanks man,

1124
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.760
And then like I go, I've done it to probably

1125
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:06.320
I'm gonna name them all buck Wall, c AA W

1126
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:09.800
and me all Stone Talent Love Agency. I've gone everywhere

1127
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:13.239
here in California and I just drop it off.

1128
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.960
And then is it working.

1129
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.679
I have one person, one person hit me back and

1130
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:23.320
they were like, wow, that was it. Now. I was like,

1131
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.239
that's it? Wow? Did you like it? Did you not? Like?

1132
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.280
I mean, I've dropped them off to two other artists

1133
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.039
just like not to like hit me back, and none

1134
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.559
of it is a I always leave it and I

1135
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:36.199
write in the journals personally or in the books personally,

1136
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:38.280
and I'm like, hey, I love the work you're doing.

1137
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.639
I love like this, this and this. I always put

1138
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.760
something personal because it's like I'm not just throwing out

1139
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:47.000
of this wide net to anybody who wants to work

1140
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.159
with me. It's more of like, no, I I am

1141
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.719
searching for you. I look through your list, I look

1142
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:55.960
through your people. I've seen the movies you've cat or

1143
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.679
you've done, or the agent. You know what. I'm saying

1144
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.280
things like that, and then I write a personal note

1145
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:02.280
about it. I'm like, yo, I really enjoyed this film.

1146
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.280
I love this client of yours because of what they

1147
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:08.119
Da da da da and I make it very personal

1148
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.360
and then I just drop it off. I don't ask

1149
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.679
for something in return, like hey, sign me. It's just

1150
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:14.679
like I want to let you know that I am

1151
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:18.199
an F five tornado coming through your town. And if

1152
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:21.159
you don't sign me, now that's on you. Like like that.

1153
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.440
Like the person who didn't sign Leo when he was

1154
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:25.880
a kid, they're probably like, oh my gosh, what did

1155
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:30.320
I do? Like and that's pretty much what this book is.

1156
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.400
There's only fifty of them. I only made fifty, so

1157
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:34.559
it's like and I write the number like, hey, seven

1158
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.159
of fifty, so and I even put even if you

1159
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:39.760
don't use it, just use it as a coffee table book.

1160
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.360
So when someone comes into your office, it's like, Yo,

1161
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.280
it's kind of cool. What is this? It's bright red,

1162
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:48.239
so it like stands out. So yeah, like that's kind

1163
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:49.960
of what it's used for. Or I give it as

1164
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.119
a gift like hey, thank you for let me come

1165
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:57.000
film with you. Hey here you go something like that,

1166
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.840
or yeah, I just I have a couple more on

1167
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:05.239
making for different projects, and then I just I'm creative.

1168
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.039
It's how I stay busy, Like that's how I stay

1169
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:09.760
focused on like, oh my gosh, I'm not working with

1170
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:12.960
Denzel right now. It's I go and make something else,

1171
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:15.039
you know, and I totally forget about it, and.

1172
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:17.599
So well, I think it's what what I what I'm

1173
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:23.320
extracting from that story, which is amazing and super like.

1174
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:27.320
I don't even have the words. It's creative and abundant

1175
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:31.400
honestly because you're giving something from your heart and it's

1176
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:35.239
clever and it's different. Because I was just in a

1177
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.400
webinar yesterday with Maha Abu Elenin, who wrote the book

1178
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:43.000
Seven Rules of Self Reliance, and one of her things

1179
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.480
that we were talking through in that's that webinar was

1180
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:48.360
how do you stand out? Like how do you? How

1181
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.559
do you make noise in a noisy world? Like how

1182
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:55.519
do you? How do you get that visibility? And this

1183
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.039
idea of yours is so clever and such a good

1184
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:00.800
example of that. So I guess shout out Maha, but

1185
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.920
also just say, you know, it's really cool to see

1186
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:07.840
when people get creative and kind of scrappy but also

1187
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:10.679
do it in such an abundant and generous way to

1188
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:13.480
give away your art and your craft like that is

1189
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:17.320
just I just had to acknowledge and say that because

1190
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.639
this whole podcast is based in gratitude, This whole podcast

1191
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:25.119
is based in My first group of guests, including yourself,

1192
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:29.199
have had such a profound impact on my life without

1193
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.840
even most of them probably even knowing it. So DJ,

1194
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.920
you have been a transition figure for me in the support,

1195
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:39.960
in the belief, and in near investment of time and

1196
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:44.800
energy and telling your story here today. I'm honestly, so

1197
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.920
so freaking grateful that you agreed to come on, and

1198
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.000
that you shared, and that you poured so generously into

1199
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:55.079
me and to the listeners and the viewers. I am,

1200
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:58.800
I am, I'm speechless, honestly, and I'm so grateful for

1201
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:02.039
your time, and I wish you all the best. And

1202
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:03.800
I think I think we're going to have to do

1203
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:04.599
this again.

1204
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:06.760
On episode one hundred. I'll come back.

1205
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:11.519
Agreed, Agreed, let's do. I'll hold you to that. So

1206
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.880
you so much. Have a good day and we'll talk soon.

1207
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:16.480
Peace. Peace.

1208
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.800
If you're seeing this, you're my friend. Thank you for

1209
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.400
being here. I really appreciate that you took time out

1210
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.000
of your day to spend with well O me. I

1211
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:31.719
would love to hear from you. I actually don't. This

1212
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.239
part is uncomfortable for me. Just just talking like this

1213
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.559
is uncomfortable for me somehow more so than this, but

1214
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.400
that's I've practiced that I have the TikTok and I

1215
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.599
do the things, and this is harder. So please talk

1216
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.199
to me, find me on social tell me what you thought,

1217
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:48.440
tell me what you think, tell me what questions you

1218
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.159
have or what guests you want to see. I want

1219
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.960
this to feel like you're part of this, because you are.

1220
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:56.679
You mean something to me and I'm so grateful. So

1221
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:00.000
if you would be so kind as to go in

1222
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:04.239
and give me a review and some stars and just

1223
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:07.599
let me know what you're thinking, I would really appreciate it.

1224
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.559
And I'd love to see you back here any time,

1225
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:14.159
to help you remember who you are while you build

1226
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.679
who you're med siccret quick before you forget