April 27, 2026

Normalizing Normal: How Emily Feret Built a 2.5M+ Audience by Being Real About Motherhood

Normalizing Normal: How Emily Feret Built a 2.5M+ Audience by Being Real About Motherhood

This episode of Quick Before You Forget is one of the most honest, raw, and empowering conversations about motherhood, identity, and doing hard things you can find on the internet.

In a conversation years in the making, I sit down with content creator and author Emily Feret, known for her viral “normalizing normal motherhood” videos that have helped millions of women feel seen, understood, and less alone.

With over two million followers, Emily has built a powerful platform rooted in honesty, humor, and the courage to show life without the filter. In this conversation, we talk about:

✨ The reality of motherhood (and why perfection is a myth)
✨ Building confidence in the face of online criticism
✨ Running a marathon with zero experience and a dream
✨ Jumping out of a plane (and what it teaches you about fear)
✨ Letting go of people-pleasing and embracing your true self
✨ Why doing hard things changes everything
✨ How social media can actually create real connection

This is a conversation about identity, resilience, motherhood, and becoming who you’re meant to be. If you’ve ever felt behind, overwhelmed, or like you’re not doing enough… this episode will remind you:

👉 You are not alone.
👉 You are doing enough.
👉 And your life is just getting started.

📚 Emily’s Book:

Normalizing Normal Motherhood: Without the Filter:
https://a.co/d/00pfoije

📲 Follow Emily:

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkXhv2hwNEd1OAe3ZXq7plg
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilyjeanneferet/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@emilyjeanne333

🎧 Emily's Playlist:

I Can Do It With A Broken Heart, Taylor Swift - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl6en1NPTYM Click Clack Symphony, RAYE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtVcltkn3HI Check out my

TikTok FamilyxEmily Feret Playlist: https://www.tiktok.com/@tyschmidtty/video/7200863476443532586

Meaningful Moments

00:00 – Skydiving story: “I was crying… what am I doing?”
01:00 – Meet Emily Feret: The Internet Mom Who Makes You Feel Seen
03:00 – “I’m a Collector of People” (Her Childhood & Influences)
06:00 – The “Mosaic of People” Mindset 10:00 – Online Hate & Letting Go of People-Pleasing
13:00 – Realizing “I Can Do Hard Things”
14:00 – The “Deathbed List” That Changed Everything
17:00 – Jumping Out of a Plane (Facing Fear Head-On)
20:00 – Signing Up for a Marathon With Zero Experience
22:00 – Injury, Doubt & the Decision to Keep Going
23:00 – “Don’t Stop” — The Moment That Carried Her Through
25:00 – The Finish Line Moment (3:33 & Full Circle)
27:00 – “If I Can Do This, I Can Do Anything”
31:00 – Imposter Syndrome & “Fake It Till You Make It”
33:00 – Doing It Scared Anyway
34:00 – Why Sharing Honestly Changes Everything
38:00 – The Viral Moment: Normalizing Real Motherhood
40:00 – Messy House, Big Life (Letting Go of Perfection)
42:00 – Parenting Choices & Internet Judgment
44:00 – Why She Took Her Kids Off the Internet
47:00 – “What You See Is What You Get”
49:00 – Her Book: The Truth About Motherhood
52:00 – “You Are Doing Enough” (Megaphone Moment)
54:00 – Music, Energy & Staying Motivated
56:00 – “Your Life Is About to Change”
57:30 – “Tomorrow Wants to See You… And So Do I”

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The plane door opens, the wind is so loud, and

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these people get ripped into the sky. There is no

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They are sticked into the sky in a vacuum. There

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is not a graceful exit. They are just Meanwhile, you're

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packed in this thing as a SRD, sitting in some

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strange man's lap. It's in seaweed or something, trusting him

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with your life and you're like, what am I doing?

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What it's about to have?

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I was crying, Emily Ferrett, welcome to quick before you forget.

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Thank you for having me.

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I'm so excited. I am so excited. So friends, you

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don't even know what you have to look forward to today.

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Because Emily has become a dear friend of mine through

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the Internet. The magical powers of the Internet brought us together.

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And she is a creator who doesn't make motherhood look perfect,

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she makes it feel real. She is one of those

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voices that makes you feel seen before you even realize

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that you needed it in that moment. By sharing the real,

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unpolished motherhood, she has created a space where honesty replaces

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perfection and where people can finally exhale and feel a

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little less alone. And this conversation is exactly that kind

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of space. With over a million people following online, She's

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built a platform on honesty, humor, and the courage to

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say what so many are thinking but not saying. And

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today we're going there, Emily, I'm weren't excited.

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They were nice.

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I love it, well, I love it and I love

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I was, as I was getting ready for this, I

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went back like five years, four years, five years, and

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I was looking at all of our content like mostly

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me do weetting you on TikTok, which is such a

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sill like goofy thing, But I am so grateful for

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the time that we've gotten to know each other over

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the course of time. Like it's been so cool.

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Crazy to really think, like when you like, I've been

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doing this for six years, and I realized that the

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other day was like, holy moly, Like what a what

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a long time is to be.

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that has happened in those six years that I'm like,

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so many friendships made and connections made. That an opportunity

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that has just been like wild to reflect back on.

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because I like to I like to think that our

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story is their superpower. And I know I think you

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feel the same. So I'd like to go back to

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your past and talk through a person or a situation

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that has impacted where you've been, where you where you've.

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Just and who you are today. No, just like anybody

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from like childhood that or like a parent or a

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friend or somebody said had an impact on your life.

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So many directions with best I'm my mom has always

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said I'm like a collector of people that I create

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little communities wherever I go, and I think it's true.

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I am someone that like I don't think anything is accidental.

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I think things happen for a reason. I think people

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enter and leave our lives for a reason. I just

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magical life. I feel like I had a Hallmark childhood

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that I talk about and people are like, wow, that

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sounds like something out of a Hallmark movie, and like,

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I know, I'm sorry, I don't know. I've had really

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great friends. My mom is always an inspiration to me.

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I've always wanted to be very much like my mom.

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She was a like the best mom on the planet

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with how she took care of us, and she might

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disagree with that, which we can get into, but I

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just think she was the best. And now at the same time,

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own life and not be afraid to do hard things.

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would Beth do? Because she always does the right thing,

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even if it's hard, and it's not afraid to take risks.

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like inspirational or influential people in my life. But I

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feel like I've just had like this great like I

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just attract good energy. I have like little like if

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you're in my life, you're probably still in my life

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unless you voluntarily left it. Like I just like, yeah,

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let's keep in touch, Like I still talk to like

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my I have a best frien and that I've been

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mom is most influential, But I just I love people

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also a collector of people and there and you said

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you had a magical childhood, and I you know, I

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had so much fun as a kid. My mom always

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made things fun and we always made things into an

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adventure out of nothing, like it was the coolest thing.

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with my kids too. But I'm wondering if there's a

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time or like you said, like a collector of people, like,

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is there somebody that stands out to you as somebody

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that's been like a transition figure for you that changed

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your life in some way?

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influential in my life, I think, which we can talk

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about later. I've always wanted to be a writer, and

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that really celebrated my writing and it was like, oh

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am I good at this? So someone just like kind

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of pouring into you and being like, no, you're good

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at this, or this might be like a skill set

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of yours. I don't know, you know what the thing

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is when you collect people. I don't know that there

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is just one person that transitioned so powerfully. I think

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that we're a mosaic of people that we've loved, and

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so I really think I gather bits and pieces like

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this person got me to download TikTok and that changed

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the course of my life, or this person supported me

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this way, or I watched this person run and then

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I trained and ran for a marathon, And like, I

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feel like there's bits and pieces from so many people

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that I don't think there is just one that I

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was like, Wow, you change the course of my life.

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I think it's everyone I've loved and interacted with. I

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just like gather things from and so I'd probably be

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influenced in life changing things from a lot of different people. Honestly, Well,

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that's beautiful.

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That mosaic analogy is really cool, honestly, and it's so

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what I love most about it is that it's different people,

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of people on the internet who are from like every

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walk of life, Like there's like people from you know,

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all shapes, colors and sizes, and we all love Emily,

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who is a writer. You said you always wanted to

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be a writer. You are a writer, and like that

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is that is something that I had struggled with for

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a really long time. So I want to correct you

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because oh yes, I do that right right, you are

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a writer. And in my kind of research and prep

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for our time together today, I went back and looked

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at some of my duets, as I mentioned, and there

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are so many good like poems that you the people

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don't even know what they've missed, Like they need to

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go back and like watch your content from like twenty twenty,

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twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. Maybe you hate me

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for that. Sorry, what a time. It was a time,

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but it was a time that got us, got us

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through some things. And you know, I was just feeling

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really grateful this morning because I was realizing that, you know,

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back then, I didn't I didn't know, I didn't really

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like TikTok or know of TikTok really and I downloaded

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TikTok and the first three people I followed on TikTok

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were you Merredith Steele, and Kevin lawson, and I have

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been blessed and honored to become friends with all three

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of you, which is crazy to me, But the point

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of it is I have gotten to see your journey

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and watch so many cool things happen and chew you

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on along the way. Like we I was I was

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thinking through do you remember Professor Bales from the Lunchable?

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Because you had a viral video back in like twenty

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twenty two. We had this guy, Professor Bales, and he

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was taking after after you and I don't even really

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remember what his point was, but the way that your

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community just like rallied.

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of you, like one of you were one of a

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very few people who made me feel brave enough to

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like start shooting and posting and doing the things. And

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now I'm very excited to share that I do have

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thirteen point four k followers, and that is I'm so

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grateful for every single human that follows me on the

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TikTok clock. But Professor Vails is not one of them.

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He the let I guess, I'm curious you you have

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mastered the art of the the clapback.

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if you're on the Internet, you're subject and talking about

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talk about your real life. You're on the Internet. You're

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subjecting yourself for consumption and public opinion, and it's going

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to be negative some of the time. And I was

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a die hard, like people pleaser. I still am slightly

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working through it, but it was really hard for me.

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When I would get negative feedback, I would take it

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very personally. I went through a period where I was like,

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you know, I had never been bullied as a kid.

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I had never experienced that. So when I got online,

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I was starting kind of get ripped apart for who

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I was, what I looked like. That was really hard

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to navigate. And I do think like, if you're on

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the online space and a creator, you probably hit a

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point where it's either you grow the thick skin and

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you rise above or you get taken down. And so

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I do feel like I kind of got taken down

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for a minute, but then I process through and worked through,

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and it's actually been so beneficial for me, like in

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my life to not genuinely not care what other people

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think of me for the most part. How did you

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get there? Though?

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with it at some level.

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started trying to change for those people and they still

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hated me anyway. So when I would take their feedback,

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which was just being mean, I would like, oh, well,

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maybe maybe there's some validity in that. Maybe I'm coming

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off a certain way, or maybe I'm doing something and

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so I'm like, well, maybe I'll tweak it. Well, then

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they just found something else to not like. And I

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just realized if someone's determined not to like you, there's

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nothing you can do to make them like you. Yeah,

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And so that was kind of freeing of like, I

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can't win over these people, and what am I really

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even like benefiting if I do? You know, there's I

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started looking at my real life circles. Can you hold on?

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Okay, perfect, Yeah, jump back in. So I started looking

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at my real life circle, So people I interacted with,

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my friends, my family, are any of these people saying

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these things about me? Are they having these same criticisms?

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People I love and I would trust to come to

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me being like, hey, you know you're kind of coming

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across this way or this behavior is not cool. No

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one was, So it's like, you know what, that's just

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someone's perception of me, or they're going through something that

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has nothing to do with me, which is most often

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the case. And the more I just kept telling myself

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that it just kind of released. I know, it's so

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much easier said than done, and sometimes it still does

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get to me. So I don't want to act like

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it's perfect now and I don't care, but I care

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so much less. I care so much less. And I

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think it was just time and really like letting go

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of the need to be liked, which is a big thing, huge,

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and knowing myself, knowing myself really well and knowing that

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I'm not those things that those people are saying. So

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that helped. But it is easier said than done, and

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there definitely is times that it still triggers me or

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gets to me. So it's an ongoing thing.

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Well, you know, I'm fresh off of a Mel Robbins event, right,

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So I am very much in that to let them

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mindset and let you know yourself. So you said you've

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gotten to know yourself. What's the most interesting thing that

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you know if you look back to twenty two year

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old Emily, what do you think she'd be most surprised

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about that you've learned about yourself in the last few years.

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Hmm, that I'm much I have the ability to be

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pretty mentally more driven than I thought that I can

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do some pretty crazy hard things if I set my

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mind to it.

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So talk to us about some of the crazy hard

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things you've done, because some crazy.

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Hurting things I ran. I think running the marathon was

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the most life changing thing and really solidified. It did

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a lot of things for me mentally, and it was

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really beneficial. I mean, I do want me to get

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way into that.

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Sure, I mean I also want to hear about you

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jumping out of an airplane.

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But okay, let me let me get into where that

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all stem from. Because I think maybe I was talking

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to some people about this, so like, why aren't you

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talking about this? I'm like, Okay, So I have something

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called a deathbed list. It's different than a bucket list.

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A bucket list, I feel like, are full of all

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these big I have those too, a big adventure of

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things you might want to see or do or whatever, travel,

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you know, whatever your bucket list is. But I wanted

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to form something called a deathbed list, which is I

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take from the bucket list maybe, but what are things

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that at the end of my life on my deathbed

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I would truly really regret not even attempting in my lifetime.

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So to me, that's different than like, I want to

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go to Australia. Right, that's a bucket list. But if

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at the end of my life I'm about to die,

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do I really care if I didn't go to Australia. No,

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it's not end of the world. So what were things

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that I really felt like, Wow, I should have done it,

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Like I'm so I regret, right. So there were four

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things on that list. It was have children jump out

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of a plane, run a marathon, and write a book.

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So these were things that like, for whatever reason and

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mind you I don't know why, you know, I especially

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the marathon one because I'm not a runner, right, But

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it was just something in my head when I was

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seventeen and I started lightly taking up jogging. I think

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I probably wanted at the time. I was like, I

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want to be skinny so this guy will like me.

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Like the reason weren't good, but in my mind I

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was like, oh, I should run. I want to run

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a marathon one day. You know. It was just it

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always in my brain of something that seemed very impossible,

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because you know so anyway, so that was the bucket

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list item. So it was, you know, obviously I had

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children at that point, check I had tried, succeeded all good,

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had the kids. So then honestly, being online helped have

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the confidence to try some of these other things. It

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almost like held me accountable in a way. It had people.

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If you say you're going to do something and people

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are like, oh, that's great, and you're like, oh, I

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should do it. So I brought up jumping out of

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a plane to my brother in law and my sister,

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and my brother in law was like, oh, I've always

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wanted to do that. I was like, should we do it? Also,

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you should know highly impulsive person. I'm so impulsive, and

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I have ADHD and I love dopamine, so I'm highly impulsive.

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So When he said that, I was like, should we

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do it right now? I'm signing us up and he

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was like, yeah, are you free in October? And he's like, okay, done.

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Locked in? Like we can't. Then I talk about it

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on the internet. Now I'm really locked in. Okay, so

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we we do this. I was so scared. It was

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such a scary feeling. You know, you're climbing up and

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when I when I envisioned skydiving, I see the videos

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that people post on the Internet and they're falling gently

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into the sky and there's music and they're like like

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I've done it, and everyone's like I'm flying. I'm like, wow,

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that's amazing. When we get up in the plane, they're like,

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we're gonna let these people out at ten thousand feet

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or whatever it was. I was like, okay, the plane

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door opens, the wind is so loud, and these people

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get ripped into the sky. There is no They are

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sicked into the sky in a vacuum. There is not

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a graceful exit. They are just Meanwhile, you're packed in

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this thing as a sard sitting in some strange man's

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lap it's name Seaweed or something. Trusting him with your life,

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and you're like, what am I doing? What it's about

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to have? I was crying. I was because then it's

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we're at ten thousand feet, we have to go up higher,

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and I'm just like, we are already in the clouds, sir,

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and these people are ripped in the sky. And my

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mom was in the plane and my kids were on

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the ground. She was able to ride like next to

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the pilot and my kids were on the ground with

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my sister. And I remember even telling it was such

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a wild thing because as a mom, there's something like

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I don't know if it's society or whatever, but it's

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like you don't do dangerous things once you're a mom,

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Like you should be doing that because you have children now.

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Even though I looked up the statistics very low for

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deaths and skydiving. You're more likely to die in a

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car accident. But I remember having this thought of my

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sisters with my kids, and I was like, oh, I

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should have told her that if she sees me plummeting,

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to take them inside so they don't see me die.

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Like the thoughts are wild, but you're just there, you know,

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you're like always on them. So clearly I didn't die

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but I remember crying, We're going to the edge and

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you just go and it was it took me a

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minty to remember to breathe and settle myself. And you

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don't feel like you're falling. You're just like floating. There

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is no of that. You know, that roller coaster feeling

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your stomach slipping, it's none of that. You don't feel

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like you're falling. You do feel like you're flying, You're

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just in the air. And then it was like lovely,

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like I'm sucking an air trying to breathe, but you

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just feel like you can do anything. I don't know

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how else to explain it. Then you wish you whosh

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up and the parachute opens and you float to the

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ground and you're just like, holy crap, I live through that.

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I now would advise you not to make life changing

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videos or life changing decisions after you skydive. You do

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have a really false sense of I can do anything,

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and again impulsive. So what comes up the next week

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signing up for the Chicago Marathon, and I just think,

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if I jumped out of a plane, I can do this,

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and I doubled down. I signed up with a charity

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to get guaranteed entry. So not only did I get in,

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I have to raise now and I told the internet

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about it. I had not ran more than a five

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k at that point, and I had not ran in years. Yeah,

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so that was though. So I trained for about nine months,

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and looking back, I don't know how I did it

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other than pure mental drive. I mean I was waking

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up for my long runs. The earliest I would wake

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up is like two thirty in the morning, three in

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the morning, run twelve miles and then solo parent my

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kids the entire twelve hours, fourteen hour days. I did

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it through sickness, I did it through rain, cold, like anything.

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But I just was like, this is something. I think

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it's maybe imposter syndrome or maybe just not like acknowledging

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my own work or whatever. But so much, I think,

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especially in the online world, I felt what was luck.

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Like I didn't earn it, I fell into it. And yeah,

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maybe I worked hard and maybe I had videos, but

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you could probably say for anyone successful online a lot

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of it was luck. You met the right person, the

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video went viral. I didn't really have to do with you.

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So I thought, not that I don't deserve it, but

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why me like I fell into it. I didn't set

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out to get an online career. I got lucky and

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this was something, and I feel like I'm naturally kind

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of a lucky person in general. I win contests. I

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don't good things happen. I don't know. So I'm like,

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you know, this was something that the only way it

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was going to be successful, the only way it was earned,

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is if I did it. No one could do this

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for me. No one could run it for me, no

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one could train for me. I had to do it

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me alone. So I got injured right before at the

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end with shin splints, bad enough that they wanted me

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to take like four weeks off, and I had this

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moment of like, this isn't supposed to happen, like I'm believing,

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manifesting and all these things, and I was like, I

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saw myself cross that finish line, like I am supposed

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to cross that finish line right now, So this doesn't

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feel right. This isn't this can't be, you know. And

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I just remember realizing it then how badly I wanted

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it and how much it meant to me. I was like,

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I don't care if I break my leg, like I'm

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running this thing like so they cleared me, but whatever,

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So just showing up that day. I can't describe the energy. It's,

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you know, I don't know if like anyone listening or

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you as like religious spiritual. I consider myself kind of

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spiritual and as the only other experience I've had that

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has been that spiritual is giving birth, like having literally

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millions of people. The energy like you can feel it

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in your bones. There's fifty thousand runners with you, and

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you are just it says go and I can I

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swear on this. Yes, Okay. There was a man in Costco,

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which is, by the way, not my demographic of viewer

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I am. Typically people who watch me are like twenty

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five forty five, typically stay at home moms, mothers. This

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man stopped me at Costco and he goes, I've been

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watching you on Instagram. I've been following your running journey

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and I was like, oh my gosh, like that's amazing.

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He's like, I've ran several of these. All the best

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advice I can give you is don't fucking stop. And

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I was like, okay, Like he's like, you're gonna do great,

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Like I can't wait to watch. I was like, thank you.

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So much and then poof, he was gone. So I

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remember writing I put like temporary tattoos on me, and

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I had my kids write and sharpie like go mom

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and all these things. And I wrote on there like

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don't fucking stop. And I didn't. I mean, I kept

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I ran. It took me seven hours and I was

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so sick for a lot of it. But there was

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one point where my husband was on like the sidelines

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00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:45.799
and I was supposed to meet him because my feet

449
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:48.359
like something had shifted and I was like, blisters are,

450
00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:49.960
like my feet are getting ripped up, and I was

451
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.720
like I need to stop and retape my feet or whatever.

452
00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:57.039
And I somehow missed him where he was at at

453
00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.000
the checkpoint, like I kept going and I was like

454
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:02.599
I missed you, Oh my gosh, whatever, And also just

455
00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:05.599
shout out to Greg because I know you asked me earlier,

456
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:08.200
like you know who's helped you on your journey or

457
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.880
inspired or something. But like he definitely like there's no

458
00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:14.039
way I could have done that marathon or a lot

459
00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:17.079
of what I do, like without him helping in the background,

460
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:20.359
like it'd be ten times harder. So very thankful he

461
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.319
was there that day. But even though I did miss him,

462
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:28.119
and I didn't get to retake my feet. I just know,

463
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:31.119
like if and thank goodness, because if I would have stopped,

464
00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:33.920
there's no way I would have gotten back up again.

465
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.039
There's no way. I know that for a fact. So

466
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:37.599
I think I was meant to miss him. You know,

467
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.359
we say like everything happens for a reason. I you know,

468
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.559
then my feet started to feel better. Right around then though,

469
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:48.039
the tape shifted back and it was okay. And I

470
00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.559
didn't stop, and I fully believe if I had stopped

471
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:53.960
and sat down, I would have been done. Like there

472
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:56.480
was just it was just any time I felt like

473
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:58.759
I don't know if I can do this, someone would

474
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:00.559
cheer my name in the crowd. It wouldn't even be

475
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.519
for me, because remember there's fifty thousand people running, but

476
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.680
someone would shout go Emily, or there was a sign

477
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:08.440
that said go Emily, or my daughter's name, or someone

478
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.480
would give me a jolly rancher. Literally at all the

479
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.200
times I was like I can't do this, or the

480
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:15.319
wind would gust behind me, and it was just like okay,

481
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:17.559
like I'm gonna do it. And I got to the

482
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:21.240
very end mile twenty six, and I knew my sister

483
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.279
was waiting for me, And there's a video of this somewhere,

484
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:27.279
but I mean, I just like, I know anyone can

485
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.920
probably think like that, doesn't run that, And even if

486
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.119
you do run that, like twenty six miles, like it's

487
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.960
not natural, like it's it's not even natural for your

488
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:38.079
body to train for it. It's so intense. And mile

489
00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:40.559
twenty six came to the very last, very end bit

490
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.319
and I knew my sister was waiting and I saw her,

491
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:45.799
and I it was like a baby, like when a

492
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:47.480
mom lifts the car off the baby. Like I got

493
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:51.880
an adrenaline surge. I ran like sprinted and just cheered

494
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:53.759
and whatever, and I went up this hill. This is

495
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:55.920
because of course they ended on a hill. Of course

496
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:57.920
the a ball and I turned and I saw the

497
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.400
finish line. I was just like, holy crap, you know.

498
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.079
And I had documented this journey all inline, and I

499
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:05.799
remember I did a series where like I wanted to

500
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:07.839
learn how to run a mile start to finish, and

501
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.880
that's what started. And I was like, wow, I'm gonna

502
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:13.440
do it, like this is insane. I'm gonna I'm going

503
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:17.000
to finish a marathon like this is like of if

504
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:19.920
you know me, or if you don't, like I'm not athletic,

505
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.319
I'm not even a good runner, like my feet or crooked.

506
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.599
I go slow, I walk a lot. I'm you know,

507
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.400
I don't have a six pack abs like I'm not

508
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:32.440
a good runner. But I finished a marathon. You know,

509
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.720
I got the same metal that somebody who finished in

510
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.279
three hours did, you know? And so I crossed the

511
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.079
finish line at By the way, my birthday is March third.

512
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:43.759
My username on things or like three through three, like

513
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.000
threes are my number. I finished that marathon at three

514
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:49.599
thirty three PM, thirty three thirty three. Wow, it was

515
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.720
threes across the board right when I crossed the finish line,

516
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.200
And it just felt so cosmic and like meant to be.

517
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:59.519
And the fact now that I have people, they'll reach

518
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:01.519
out to me like I'm running a marathon because you did,

519
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:03.880
or I've started running because you did. And it just

520
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:05.920
thought of all the things I thought I would inspire

521
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.200
that would never be it. So it really showed me

522
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.400
that like you can do things you set your mind to,

523
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:16.559
even if it feels impossible, and that I'm such a

524
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:18.920
capable like I think back and I say it so

525
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.720
casually but like what that took so much mental grit

526
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.359
and so much hard work, and I did it, and

527
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.559
I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish, and now I'm

528
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.759
training for my second one. So like, you can do

529
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:34.160
these things that are just they seem like if I

530
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.920
were to say that like me to seventeen year old me,

531
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.599
she'd be in disbelief that I actually did it, you know.

532
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:41.839
So it just really showed me that I'm a capable

533
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:46.680
person and that I can work really hard and I

534
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:50.480
can do these things that feel impossible. So that was

535
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.880
long winded, but that was something that really showed me

536
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.079
that that I can I can do things and work

537
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:01.880
hard and make impossible things reality. And also I need

538
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.200
a new deathbed list because I've checked.

539
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.519
Off all of the check and you are only thirty one,

540
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.279
thirty four thirty four. Oh my gosh, I'm making you

541
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.519
younger on purpose. No, Emily, I cried, like, I don't

542
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:16.400
know if you could tell I was being a little

543
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.720
emotional because I was one of the lucky ones that

544
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.759
got to kind of watch all that kind of unfold.

545
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.640
And when you were talking about the moment with your

546
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.240
sister at the finish line.

547
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.920
I could see it. I could.

548
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.839
I can remember because there's a video, and I cried,

549
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.440
like sobbing crying because it felt like we were with you,

550
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.960
Like it felt like we were on that journey the

551
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:43.359
whole thing. You know, you did such a you know

552
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:45.839
you said about the accountability is real, right like you

553
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.200
you posted about it on the internet. You took us

554
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.400
with you, but you brought us into your world. And

555
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:54.119
I'm so grateful because like there's so much I wrote down,

556
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.440
but you know you said impossible a bunch, and impossible

557
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:59.440
is one of my words, because impossible is just a

558
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.440
big word thrown around by small people.

559
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:03.599
And you are you say.

560
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.039
Fuck yeah, you did it, like you are so much

561
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.200
more capable than you put your mind to. And when

562
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.359
I was really sick in twenty one, twenty twenty one,

563
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.319
twenty twenty two, your content was a light like in

564
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:21.599
my darkness, and that version of me only a couple

565
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.240
of years ago wouldn't have thought any of this was possible.

566
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.279
But here we are having this conversation, and you you know,

567
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.519
my podcast is called Quick Before You Forget, and the

568
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:35.279
whole point is helping people build their unreal life from

569
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:38.240
the ground up using tools like music, mindset and movement

570
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:40.279
to remember who you are while you build who you

571
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.519
were meant to be. And you've done that by crossing

572
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:47.319
off all four things on your deathbed list. And that

573
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.240
is so when you said that I got chills five

574
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.400
or six times while you were talking. I wanted to

575
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.680
say three times because it would have been more kismet

576
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.440
and like cosmic. But I got chills like five or

577
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:59.599
six times while you were talking because you said, if

578
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.680
I can do this, I can do anything. Like if

579
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.279
I can jump out of a plane, I can do anything.

580
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.599
And and that is why we do the hard thing.

581
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.680
Like there's so much that, there's so much good in

582
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:14.319
everything you shared, and I just I am just grateful for.

583
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:16.519
All of it.

584
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.960
I'm grateful for you sharing. I'm grateful for you taking

585
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.079
us with you. I'm grateful for the spark that it's

586
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:24.720
been for everybody that's running a marathon because of you,

587
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:25.799
And how freaking.

588
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:25.960
Cool is that.

589
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.400
And people are probably, honestly, people are probably jumping out

590
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:31.039
of planes because of you too. And I would strongly

591
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:34.319
encourage anybody and everybody to go look at that documentation

592
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.400
as well, because when she was telling the story of

593
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:39.640
jumping out of the plane. My mind conjured up the

594
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.079
image of her jumping out of the plane, which is

595
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:44.400
she said, you get whipped out of the plane, And

596
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.480
that's exactly what that's. That's the joy slash like realness

597
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.000
of the face and everything it was.

598
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:54.839
It's it's like, yeah, but skydiving pictures, I'll say that

599
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.039
or maybe do because there I want to do it

600
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.519
because it's like you know that list.

601
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.799
But also you might not love how your face looks

602
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:11.640
because my ear is sucking. Yeah, no, my nostrils were this. Oh,

603
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:12.920
maybe do buy the pictures?

604
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:13.640
You do it?

605
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.839
Yes, you need to prove and you put it by

606
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.079
your death. Then you did say this thing though, That

607
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.160
gets to something that I want to dig into deeper.

608
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.720
For people that do want to do these impossible things

609
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.359
in unreal life build their unreal life from the ground up.

610
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:32.160
So you said there were times along this journey where

611
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.240
you thought why me? And I know that you deal

612
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:39.559
with intrusive thoughts a lot. Sure, So how do you

613
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.839
work through those thoughts? Like how do you get from

614
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.680
why me? To doing the thing?

615
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.960
I fake it till I make it? Yeah, I mean

616
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.559
I do. Went to a conference and I felt like

617
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.039
so out of place and I just felt like, Wow,

618
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.480
I don't belong here, and I just make a joke.

619
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.079
You know, I don't know I do. I fake it

620
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.200
till I make it. I just think I do have

621
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:06.640
imposter syndrome, and I do feel like out of place

622
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.279
sometimes or you know, why me or whatever I do.

623
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.799
I do think there is some validity to fake it

624
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.359
till you make it, Taylor Swift, I could do it

625
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:19.319
with a broken heart, you know whatever your mantra, and

626
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.039
I don't. I don't even have other advice than that.

627
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.119
I just I need to give myself more credit quite frankly,

628
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.720
something I'm working on. But I just show up. Maybe

629
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.599
that's the advice is I keep showing up and I

630
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:39.400
keep doing it. I just keep going. And if some

631
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:41.200
days I do feel like I belong and like I

632
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:42.920
know what I'm doing, and some days I don't, but

633
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.759
I show up anyway. I don't let it, let me

634
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:50.240
diminish myself or hide away. Even if I'm not feeling it,

635
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.839
I'm still going to show up. And you might not

636
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.079
have any clue I'm feeling.

637
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.599
That way because I'm there right and you are faking

638
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:58.519
it till you make it, which is this beautiful thing.

639
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.279
That I've recently refereed raised because I heard it on

640
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.960
the internet that I faith it till I make it.

641
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.200
But the point is you show up and you do

642
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.640
it scared, and you do. You feel the fear, and

643
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.519
you feel the imposter syndrome, and you hear those thoughts

644
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.680
in your head running a million miles a minute. You

645
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.599
do it anyway. Yep, do it scared. I do it

646
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.799
scared a lot. I do it feeling like I'm not

647
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.519
don't belong, I don't whatever. But yeah, I don't stop,

648
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.039
I don't not attend or I don't not do the thing.

649
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.799
I just I do it scared skydiving. I did it

650
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.839
really scared. Yeah, I think they're really scared, you know.

651
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.039
So it doesn't have to stop you from doing it

652
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:41.319
if you're feeling that absolutely, you know. So that is

653
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.359
what I try to do. Well.

654
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.759
You talk a lot about the hard things and doing

655
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.920
the hard things and saying the hard things out loud.

656
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.200
What are the hard things and hard parts that you

657
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:58.759
don't talk about as much, like in an online sense, yeah,

658
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.400
or just in general. I mean, because I think that

659
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.640
I think that people you know, appreciate there's still things

660
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.880
that are harder for you to share. So if you

661
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.280
had to focus on some of those.

662
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.519
Yeah, I don't, it wouldn't. See. The thing is, it's

663
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.159
like the personal things that I don't share with the world,

664
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.599
So just that I've chosen to keep, you know, it

665
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.599
wouldn't be something I talk about in a video online.

666
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:26.760
There's not too much that that I don't share. Fair

667
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.800
open book when it comes to myself, I quite honestly

668
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.639
in my feelings, like and I it's interesting because I

669
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.159
just I literally just came off a conference with all

670
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.719
online creators who are moms, Like that is who the

671
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.199
conference is for. That is two point zero, right, I'm

672
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.320
two point oh so people are speaking, but anyone I

673
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.679
talked to, and I define this to be true. And

674
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.920
I don't know if it's just my circle that I

675
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.360
fell into or if there's some truth to it if

676
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.159
you're an online creator. But like they were, it was

677
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.679
no big deal to just be super open about really

678
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:05.199
personal things feelings, like instantly, you know, it was just like, oh, yeah,

679
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:06.440
this is happening in my life and this is how

680
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.400
I feel and blah blah blah blah blah. Like I

681
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:10.280
don't know if I just fell into the right group

682
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.440
of people where that is just who they are, or

683
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.639
if there's something about sharing your life online that you

684
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.239
become less sensitized, like for a while, it's changed now

685
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.599
when you google my name and I made a video

686
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.199
about this, the image that they chose to represent me

687
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.760
was me in my underwear in a mirror selfie in

688
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.639
my period granny panty underwear. And when I saw it,

689
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:34.440
I was like, that's so hilarious, Like what a funny

690
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.719
Like of course that's what they just I made a

691
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.400
video about it. I reput it on the internet, and

692
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.039
I got so many comments of like, oh my gosh,

693
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.719
I would die, like I'd be so embarrassed. I'm like,

694
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:48.039
I really don't care. I feel like these. Something I

695
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:52.039
really like is there's this kind of phrase that shows

696
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.519
up in comment sections. It'll be someone talking in about

697
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.880
experience they've had and someone says, wow, I've never had

698
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.079
an original experience in my life in a negative light,

699
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.760
like a funny comment of like, oh wow, there's nothing

700
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.039
unique about me someone else. But I think that's such

701
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:09.400
a beautiful thing. I love that that we've never had

702
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.519
a unique experience, because how great that someone else has

703
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.440
gone through something that I've gone through. And I think

704
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.039
when you can talk about shameful topics vulnerable topics with

705
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:24.440
a approachable lens, maybe it's making fun of it. Maybe

706
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:26.480
it's just saying, hey, this is happening in my life,

707
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.440
and I'm okay with it. I'm okay to talk about it.

708
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.880
I don't feel bad about myself about it. It kind

709
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.440
of gives other people like the sigh of relief to go, oh, like,

710
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:40.119
I'm not a terrible person for feeling this. Or I

711
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.079
was talking to a woman at dinner and she had

712
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.119
brought up She's like, oh, I've been married a million times,

713
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:45.719
like when she was talking about her life, She's like,

714
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.039
so I'm my husband number four. And I was like,

715
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:48.800
oh my gosh, go for seven. She's like, yes, I

716
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.679
Elizabeth Taylor. But it was like such a like humorous,

717
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:54.880
like oh, Like I didn't think anything of it. I

718
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.199
was like, like, oh, why is she getting married four times?

719
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.480
You know? Or like maybe that's like a shameful thing

720
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.039
in society or something. I think if you can talk

721
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.360
about things that are hard or vulnerable or maybe that

722
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.719
society says you should feel shamed for and approach it

723
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.360
like yeah, that's me, and that's I'm okay with it?

724
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.639
People go, oh, is it okay? Like wait, is this

725
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.320
just being a human and we're going through life? Okay?

726
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.280
So there's honestly, unless it's something personal involving other people

727
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.440
in my family, like I would never go and talk

728
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.400
about share something at this point personal about something my

729
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.960
children are going through online. Well, I have boundaries with

730
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.360
what I share. There's nothing though that I have felt like, oh,

731
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.119
I shouldn't talk about that. Like I'm of the approach

732
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.039
of like, let's talk about it, and let's talk about

733
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.880
in an approachable way. So when it involves other people's

734
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:44.039
private matters, I won't talk about it. I have boundaries.

735
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.320
But for myself and my feelings and stuff, honestly, there's

736
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:49.800
not too much I don't express well.

737
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:56.119
People connect through honesty and authenticity, and that's something that's

738
00:37:56.119 --> 00:38:00.360
been a theme for your content for years, is just

739
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.199
showing up as your real, honest self and not you know,

740
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.440
life without the filter, right, that is that is the

741
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:10.679
that is the thing. So talk us through the life

742
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:13.519
without the filter, talk us through those normalizing normal videos

743
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.480
that are everybody's favorite, and how you kind of came

744
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.599
to that as as one of your series.

745
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.400
Yeah, I mean again, it's everything so like it just

746
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.719
happened one day. But I joined TikTok in twenty twenty

747
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.519
during the pandemic. I was pregnant and had a toddler,

748
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.000
and I would I took lockdown very seriously. I was

749
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:33.639
someone that did not leave their house. I did not

750
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:35.639
go to the grocery store. I was pregnant. There was

751
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.199
so much unknowns that I was like, I'm not doing

752
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.679
anything to put myself in any kind of position where

753
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.400
might be separated from my baby or whatever, you know.

754
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.039
So I was. I was very locked down, and I

755
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:49.920
was I loved TikTok. It was an escape, but it

756
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:56.039
was also at that time heavily unrealistic, which I mean

757
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.920
it still is, but just I was seeing these perfect

758
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.320
lives of moms and doing all of these things and

759
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.719
doing all these activities with their kids, and their houses

760
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.840
were immaculate, and I was just like, Wow, mine's not mine.

761
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.360
Doesn't look like that. My motherhood journey is not like that.

762
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.440
And I started to feel bad about myself, like, well,

763
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.360
I'm pretty bad at my job. I thought I was

764
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.239
good at my job. I'm failing here. All these people

765
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:21.039
seem to have it together. So I kind of just

766
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:22.800
picked up the phone one day. And I think it

767
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:24.639
started as kind of like I'm a hot mess mom

768
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:29.760
showing my house and whatever happened where the words fell

769
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.320
out of my mouth that little intro that I do

770
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.199
of a start of every video, and I, almost like

771
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:38.760
an MTV style cribs, walked around my house and showed

772
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.840
the real of it, how messy it was, and how

773
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.000
there were bottles everywhere that I was hunting, I mean,

774
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.920
anything you could think of, just like my kids had

775
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.239
three bags of chips for breakfast, Like here's my life,

776
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.679
what I'm living, and making it fun and making it

777
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.960
silly and making it like isn't this great? Like this

778
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:59.360
is my life? And people really resonated with it. I

779
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.480
mean it blew up. That was my first like viral moment,

780
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.559
and I thought, huh. And then just the more I've shared,

781
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.320
like I said, I've taken these little side quests of

782
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.719
like running a marathon and jumping out of a plane

783
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:11.760
and here I'm doing this, but the core of it

784
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:15.719
has always been showing my unfiltered life and showing that

785
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.440
I'm still a great person. You watch this and you

786
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.440
really like me, and you like my personality and what

787
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.920
I do guess what, my house is messing ninety nine

788
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.360
percent of the time there is. There is hardly ever

789
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.719
a time my house is clean and put together an aesthetic.

790
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.320
It's just not going to It's just not who I am,

791
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.880
and that's okay. It doesn't make me a bad person.

792
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.719
So I feel like women, especially in moms, carry this

793
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.119
guilt of like that makes me put together. That is

794
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.840
what's going to make me successful. And this is how

795
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.840
it's supposed to be for me to be considered a

796
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:51.320
good wife, a good mom, a good human. If my

797
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.320
house is not lean, I'm lazy. And when I have

798
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.480
this downtime, I need to be cleaning to get it

799
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.199
to that state, because that's what makes me better and

800
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.519
more successful. And I'm just here to remind you it

801
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.719
has literally no bearing on who you are, or your

802
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:06.920
work ethic or anything. I Like I said, if I

803
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.760
list all these accomplishments, like I was on the Drew

804
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.960
Barrymore show, I'm publishing a book, I'm speaking at these conferences,

805
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.000
I've ran a marathon, I've jumped out of a plate.

806
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:18.000
You would be like, WHOA, that sounds like an impressive

807
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.639
person in my eyes, you know, howl whatever, like, Wow,

808
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.239
that's amazing. Guess what. My house is a mess. My

809
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:29.480
kids had three marshmallows for breakfast today, just marshmallows, nothing nutritious. Okay,

810
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:30.960
did I brush their teeth this morning?

811
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:31.079
No?

812
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.199
I did not. I forgot. And just remember now that

813
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:35.880
I forgot, and things are following a part at the seams,

814
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.960
and like I have clothes that I've worn since high school.

815
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:41.159
I don't have like all these fancy outfits, like all

816
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:44.280
of these things. But if you heard just this highlight reel,

817
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.320
you'd go, oh, my gosh, like what an impressive specimen.

818
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.280
But all of these things are true. There's this duality

819
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.039
of like I am what I think is this cool,

820
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.239
nice friend, great person. In my house is a mess,

821
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.639
and my laundry is never caught up and it doesn't

822
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.280
reflect to my work ethic or who I am, or

823
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.559
it's not negative to me in any light. It's just

824
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.599
something that is and it releases that feeling of like

825
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:11.840
I'm responsible for that, and I'm allowed to rest and

826
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:13.920
I'm allowed to have fun and even if my house

827
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:15.960
is a mess, and so I continue to kind of

828
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.800
share that. And as I've grown, that's kind of gone

829
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:23.239
through different things like body acceptance and positivity and how

830
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:26.239
I parent and all these elements. But the core of

831
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.039
it is is that you don't have to be perfect

832
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.400
and how we fight against that living in a world

833
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.719
with social media.

834
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:39.400
By telling the truth. This crazy thing, right, what's the

835
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.960
thing you do as a mom that the internet would

836
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.360
absolutely judge you for but you stand by it anyway?

837
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:51.519
Co sleeping there's some controversial things on the internet, right,

838
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.280
So like, yeah, post thing is a big when bed

839
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:57.119
sharing I did. My kids are eight and whatever, eight

840
00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:59.320
and five, no, six, I don't know, birthdays are coming up.

841
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.239
I did bed sharing it to co sleep being we

842
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:07.280
do screen time their diet, which is so funny because

843
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.360
I'll put on the internet like, oh, here's this plate

844
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.159
of food, and you always have the people that are like,

845
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:14.119
oh my gosh, that's that's garbage. And some people are like,

846
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.760
oh my gosh, your kids eat vegetables like it slick.

847
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.599
So there's always going to be like such polarizing opinions.

848
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.079
I hearn about certain topics. That's just that's just how

849
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.639
it how it goes. Yeah, So definitely, like I lay

850
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:30.440
in bed with them still every night to go to sleep.

851
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:36.000
They'd use their they have iPads and tablets, they're on screens,

852
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.400
they eat sugar. I don't know, you know, those are

853
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.519
like the controversial. I don't know that there's anything major,

854
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.880
but like someone on the Internet of everything I just

855
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.800
listed would be like, h freak out, like that's not okay,

856
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.119
and other people would be like that's me too, right,

857
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.079
so's you know, the world it takes. Motherhood I think

858
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.840
is like kind of like math. There's a lot of

859
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:57.800
different ways to get to the same equation. I think

860
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.440
we're all just trying to raise like happy people in

861
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.159
society that are good contributors to society, good people. Some

862
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.599
people get there by eating all organic and some people

863
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.599
get there by eating marshmallows for breakfast. And it just

864
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.480
takes all types of people to make up the world.

865
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.559
And it's okay, it is okay, we're all we all

866
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.559
have the same goal. So I mean, so I guess

867
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:21.360
that's the most like controversial thing I could think of,

868
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.079
because just because I know those are controversial, I'm.

869
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.480
Likes, well, if I mean, we love those kids, the

870
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.960
Internet loves those kids, and you've done a very intentional

871
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.519
job of kind of taking them away and having them

872
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.559
not be part of your content. Can you talk me

873
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.920
through that decision and why that's so important to you?

874
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:51.079
So when when they were little, they were on the

875
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:55.079
internet more when they were babies and like two mainly

876
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.639
because how how do I avoid it? I had a

877
00:44:57.639 --> 00:44:59.159
baby on my boob all the time. I had a

878
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.280
two year old up you know, on my butt. So

879
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.519
and they were also I feel like the problems they

880
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:06.400
were going through or things I was venting about is

881
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:10.079
could apply to every child on the planet. Every child,

882
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.000
you know, throws a tantrum, every child's not sleeping through

883
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:14.840
the night, every you know. It was kind of like

884
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:23.599
universal things. Yeah yeah. And then uh, when my eldest

885
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.719
turned four and mind you, like, I you know, grew

886
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.320
kind of slow. I had a big spike, so it

887
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:31.920
was like kind of the slow growth and whatever.

888
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.599
But we celebrated every big spike, by the way, like

889
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:36.800
I need to tell you, like I was thinking about that,

890
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.519
how we celebrated like fifty k and then one hundred K,

891
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:41.679
and then two fifty.

892
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:43.000
It was this whole.

893
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.920
Build up and excite. It was crazy.

894
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.519
So you know when it's fifty k people and you're

895
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.119
getting like maybe so many views and they're all the

896
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.639
same universal problems it's one thing, but now it's like

897
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:56.559
I have over two million across platforms and my kid.

898
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.039
When my eldest was four and she entered school, that

899
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.519
is what it all shifted, because I was like, anything

900
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.079
I talk about her on the internet, A, problems are

901
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:09.840
now becoming more specific to her right and B she

902
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.719
is going to have friends who have parents who watch me.

903
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.599
And so if I go and say, oh, she has

904
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.079
the cutest little crush on this boy in preschool, you know,

905
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.679
like that might be a normal thing, or oh, she wasn't,

906
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.800
but we'll just give an example of like she's was

907
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.159
having accidents at preschool, what are some tips. Even if

908
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.840
it's like I might get valuable advice, this is now

909
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.400
affecting her personal life that other people can see. And

910
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.199
so that was the shift of like, I don't like that. Also,

911
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.679
you start entering like stranger danger and like what if

912
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:42.119
someone comes up to her and is like, I know

913
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.320
your mom from the internet and they don't know they go, oh,

914
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.679
you know my mom, You're safe. So that was kind

915
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:49.159
of part of the decision too that I just kind

916
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:53.360
of started taking them off the internet. So now they're

917
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.280
not a part of it, and you're very able to

918
00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:59.239
do that. You can talk about motherhood, you can talk

919
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.639
about things. Of course, there are things that I wish

920
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:03.199
I could go to the internet about. She'll do something

921
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:04.800
so cute. I'll be like, this is so cute. I

922
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:06.639
want to share. But that's when I shared like my

923
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.760
personal private you know, family page or whatever. But yeah,

924
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.239
once I I don't want it to affect them. It's

925
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.920
one thing to embarrass myself on the internet, even by proxy.

926
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:19.119
They may still have something with that, you know, Yeah,

927
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.360
but I didn't want it to involve them where someone

928
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:24.960
could use information against them in a harmful way. So

929
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:26.440
that was part of the decision.

930
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.320
You if and when they see your content and they

931
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.800
watch your content someday, what do you hope they understand

932
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:33.199
about you?

933
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:41.119
Ooh, that I'm a very Oh that's a good question.

934
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:45.719
That they understand about me, that I think that I

935
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:48.760
am my authentic self online that I'm not putting on

936
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.280
any kind of front. It was an odd thing, like

937
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.599
I met some creators at this conference and it was

938
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.480
like the phrase came up as like, oh, you're exactly

939
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.800
like who you are online, because there is that kind

940
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:01.519
of like, oh, is does she really like that? Is

941
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:04.119
this some sort of persona. Is this just how she

942
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.480
acts in person? So I would love for them to

943
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.920
know that, just like, no, that's me, like you if

944
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:10.719
you talk to me in real life, which you could

945
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.760
probably attest to this, like that's just who I am.

946
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.559
Right, Yeah, No, I've gotten the same thing where it's

947
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.719
like you're you're the same, You're the same person. You

948
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.880
have that much energy online and in person.

949
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:32.280
How so yeah, I think just that that is not

950
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.559
a character or persona like you're You're getting what you get.

951
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.320
That's who I am. And sometimes I show up and

952
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.360
I'm high energy. Sometimes I show up and I'm crying.

953
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:41.960
There's just no performance in it. I don't think I

954
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:43.519
could make it work in my life if I had

955
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.880
to perform any kind of way for it. So yeah,

956
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:48.159
that's I think that's what I would want to know

957
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:50.760
that there's no It kills me when like I'll recommend

958
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.400
a product and I get messages like but do you

959
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.559
really like it? I'm like, yes, why would I tell

960
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.559
you I do? But there's there's people that do that.

961
00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:59.239
So yeah, that's the problem. There are people that do that,

962
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:01.320
but you are not one of them. And we are

963
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.679
grateful as people. I mean I actually used. I think

964
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.280
there might be videos on the internet, like Emily made

965
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.159
me buy it, Emily made me buy Liquid IV, like

966
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:11.960
I never tried Liquid IV.

967
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.280
What I'm an influencer.

968
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:18.480
Are an influencer, that's that's what you do for for life.

969
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.559
But just talking about your kids, You've teased a little

970
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:26.440
bit about your book, and your kids are going to

971
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.840
be able to hold your book in their hands one day,

972
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.239
and that's a crazy cool legacy to leave them. I'm

973
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.280
wondering what you how you're feeling about that and what

974
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.840
you can and will share with us about the book

975
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:38.440
right now. As I know, it's like a like a

976
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:39.320
teasing situation.

977
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.639
I know, so like you, I haven't officially launched it,

978
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.679
and I think we're going to do another podcast episode

979
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:49.800
we are, yes girl. But there is a book. You

980
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.440
can pre order it right now. I just haven't like

981
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.360
made that official launch, but it is available like everywhere

982
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.960
you buy books. But it's called normalizing normal motherhood without

983
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.440
the filter. What it is about is I've kind of exited.

984
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:04.760
My youngest is going to be turning six at the

985
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.159
end of summer, so he's I'm leaving those early motherhood

986
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.119
years which I consider like zero to five, maybe zero

987
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:14.840
to six, where there's all this I'm entering like big

988
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:19.079
kid phase. So there's all this change that happens when

989
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.880
you're pregnant and when you bring home a baby that

990
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.000
I feel like is not talked about enough. I feel

991
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.280
like a lot was talked about, you know, maybe like

992
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.440
what do expect when you're expecting, and maybe some physical

993
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.440
changes in a medical way, and but no one was

994
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.000
talking about like how my marriage would change, how my

995
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.400
friendships would change, how I would feel like I was

996
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.320
losing something, how I lost myself, how I found myself

997
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:48.119
some body changes, and how I wasn't like in love

998
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.039
with my body and how that's okay. So it kind

999
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.000
of goes into these different topics with some kind of

1000
00:50:53.000 --> 00:51:00.320
like real life antidotes alongside with advice I've got along

1001
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.360
the way. So it's not really I always say like

1002
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:04.840
I'm an expert nothing, but I do have Google. That's

1003
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.719
a phrase I use a lot in the book. And

1004
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.159
also it's not a how to, but it's a how

1005
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:14.400
I did and how you can too. So even if

1006
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.079
you get just tidbits from each section, and it kind

1007
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:18.519
of just goes through all these things like how I

1008
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:20.840
feed my kids and how that's not picture perfect, and

1009
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.639
how I was okay with my house falling apart and

1010
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.199
all of these things in kind of a funny and

1011
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.599
lighthearted way, like how it is my videos. Was also

1012
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.039
some maybe helpful tips that might be helpful for you

1013
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.480
and your mindset navigating this, and if nothing else, for

1014
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:38.440
something to go like, oh, thank goodness this someone else

1015
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.280
said it. Thank goodness someone else did that same thing.

1016
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:44.559
One part of the book is literally just my worst

1017
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:48.119
mom fails and all these things that I felt bad

1018
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:50.159
about and then how I learned to navigate and not

1019
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.559
feel bad about it anymore. So it's just kind of

1020
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:54.880
like an open and honest like here was my experience.

1021
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:57.719
A lot of it was way harder than I ever

1022
00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.719
thought it could be. And we're not supposed to say

1023
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.760
that because we're supposed to just be so grateful for

1024
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:05.320
the experience. But again, like I said earlier, those two

1025
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.519
things can be true at once. I can be so

1026
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.079
grateful and love my children, love being a mom and

1027
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:16.719
really not like motherhood sometimes, yeah, and the permission to

1028
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.559
feel that and how that's okay and it doesn't make

1029
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.719
you a bad mom. So that's my little shpiel about.

1030
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.880
The book Two Things Can Be True is a theme

1031
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.920
of life for me lately. You said you lost you

1032
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.440
felt like for the people that maybe lost themselves in motherhood,

1033
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:35.519
and that made me think of the question that I've

1034
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.719
been asking most of my guests, which is, if I

1035
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.719
handed you a megaphone and every mama in the world

1036
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.039
had to listen to you right this minute, what would you.

1037
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:54.519
Say that you are doing enough? If you're trying, You're

1038
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.559
doing enough, like just straight up, like, if you are

1039
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.679
trying your best, if you are giving this your best,

1040
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:05.159
then that is enough. You are still a good mom.

1041
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.960
You're a good mom, just straight up. A bad mom

1042
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.960
wouldn't care. A bad mom would not question if she

1043
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.239
was doing enough. So if you are questioning that, if

1044
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.280
you were thinking that, if you're feeling guilty, if you're trying,

1045
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:19.159
then you are doing enough and you are a good mom.

1046
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:21.599
I needed to hear that more than once from you,

1047
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:24.800
and you always delivered at the most perfect times, which

1048
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.519
is why I believe everything you said about the way

1049
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.079
that I believe God is working for me in so

1050
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.440
many ways and including having you here today. So I

1051
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.119
just have a couple more questions that are more like

1052
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.719
what we've a little more quick hitting and you know

1053
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:44.480
you can. You don't have to answer briefly per se,

1054
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.159
but just a little little more, a little less thoughtful,

1055
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.519
a little more gut reaction. So do you have you

1056
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:54.960
mentioned our girl Taylor Swift and I can do it

1057
00:53:55.000 --> 00:54:00.000
with a broken heart? Yes, we were joking right befo

1058
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:03.199
before we started recording, because I wear that hoodie a lot,

1059
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.400
and I have the white one, and I wear that

1060
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.360
one a lot, and I have two of the white ones,

1061
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.559
so it looks like I might not do laundry ever,

1062
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.400
but I actually do. And I just I was like,

1063
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.599
I should have shown up in that chirk and we

1064
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.280
would have been matchy matchy catching. But do you have

1065
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.960
you mentioned that song? Do you have other songs? You

1066
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.320
have a song specifically that you put on I'm curious,

1067
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:26.000
almost like what was on your marathon playlist? But do

1068
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.519
you have a hype song or a survive song of

1069
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.039
survival that you could share with us?

1070
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.639
A hype song for survival? We literally look up at Spotify.

1071
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.800
Yes, and we're gonna if you don't mind sharing your

1072
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:39.480
LIU like the.

1073
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:45.079
Most recent Yes, the most recent is this song called

1074
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:50.760
click Clack Symphony by Ray nice. Yeah, I think so

1075
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.559
it's just this like anthem of like going out with

1076
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.400
your girls and like the beat is sick, and I'm

1077
00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.239
just like, yeah, it's like I'm like we did a

1078
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.119
girl to night. I don't even know what's happening, but

1079
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.159
like let's go not like the girls and I would

1080
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:05.400
probably be like we're all lounging around like watching a movie,

1081
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:08.239
but it's right, yes, let's get fabulous and go out

1082
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:11.719
and watching Door Girls. Yeah, that's like my latest like

1083
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.400
hype song. Like the beat just gets me. Of course,

1084
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.079
like you can do it with a broken heart is

1085
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.119
great too. That's like any of them of like kind

1086
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.920
of fake it till you make it. Yeah, Weft always

1087
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:24.760
gets me anything with a beat, though, I'm so with

1088
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:29.280
music like I do not I if you viewed my stuff,

1089
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.400
it's all over the spectrum because I'm just like if

1090
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.800
I sometimes I like the lyrics more than the music.

1091
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.840
Sometimes I like the beat. But that's probably my number

1092
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:38.800
one right now that I've been listening to.

1093
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.199
Well, thank you for sharing with us. I will include

1094
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.079
that in the show notes for people, and if you

1095
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.920
want to share any other songs off or your Spotify

1096
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.039
playlist or whatever, let me know because I'd love to

1097
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:52.280
include that too. As we've talked about, you have built

1098
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.039
a community of friends on the internet, and I have

1099
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:56.760
been blessed to be part of it. And I know

1100
00:55:56.920 --> 00:56:00.360
a lot of those friends personally and have become friends

1101
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.000
with them myself. And one of those friends is named Becky,

1102
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.320
and she goes by Becks on the internet, but her

1103
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.119
name is Becky and she had a question that she

1104
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:12.320
asked me to ask you. We love Becky, So her

1105
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:16.599
question is where did it go? If you could go

1106
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.840
back to the very first video you ever posted, what

1107
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.320
would you tell that version of yourself?

1108
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:30.400
Oh? Wow, buckle up. I mean truly, this has been

1109
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.199
such a I know, I know the first video I

1110
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:35.480
ever posted. It was like a trendy dancing video with

1111
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.000
my then toddler where you like run off screen. I

1112
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:39.639
bring her back in and kind of shake her back

1113
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:40.119
and forth.

1114
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:44.440
And Becky and I knew that one too, by the way,

1115
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.280
we both remembered, which is really cool that we all

1116
00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:49.920
know exactly first one.

1117
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:53.440
And just like I think, just your life is about

1118
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:56.039
to change. Your life is going to change, and not

1119
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.719
in like a oh I'm suddenly this, but you are

1120
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:01.000
just one of the things you will pumplush and learn

1121
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:02.920
about yourself like you were. You were about to be

1122
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:05.320
on a wild ride. So buckle up. Your life's about

1123
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:05.840
to change.

1124
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.639
It's eleven eleven right now, just changed eleven twelve. But

1125
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:11.719
you told that story at eleven eleven, which is special

1126
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:15.519
to me, Like say a prayer.

1127
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.320
Whatever we do right, we feel it.

1128
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.639
We're feeling it, and that that good energy is going

1129
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:21.320
to carry us into our next chat.

1130
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:22.639
Which will be about the book.

1131
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.440
But also we're gonna we're gonna have to just have

1132
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.920
more chats because I feel like we barely scratched the surface.

1133
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.239
And I did go through some of my questions, but

1134
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:34.840
not nearly as many as I had. So we're just

1135
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:36.360
gonna need to come back and do this again.

1136
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.199
Okay, deal, let's do you know.

1137
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:40.599
You heard it here first, friends, and that's gonna help.

1138
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:43.719
It's gonna happen. Emily, thank you for your time today

1139
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.719
before we wrap. Is there anything else you want to

1140
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:48.199
share or add that I didn't ask you what?

1141
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.360
No? I just I do hope you if you're interested

1142
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.320
in the book, you buy it reea but just remember that,

1143
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:55.920
like even if you're not a mom, I know I'm

1144
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.199
speaking to moms a lot in my content whatever. But

1145
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.760
if you're just a person in life, life trying to

1146
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:04.719
figure it out, you know it'll be you have time.

1147
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.960
Life is long. You're meant to be here. I always

1148
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.639
say the if you're here, the chances of you being

1149
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.800
born are so slim, and you made it here, and

1150
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:15.840
when you got here, the universe shifted to make room

1151
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:18.239
for you, and it would feel a loss if you

1152
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.519
weren't here. So just remember that and know that you're

1153
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.480
supposed to be here and try to find you know,

1154
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:28.880
the simple joys in life. And uh yeah, tomorrow wants

1155
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:29.800
to see you inside of I.

1156
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:35.559
What a perfect ending. I'm so grateful, Emily. I'm truly, honestly,

1157
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:39.760
sincerely grateful for the six years or so that we've

1158
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.800
spent together online, but also for being here today. Feels

1159
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like this perfect, just this perfect moment to say thank you.

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I'm on behalf of all of us in the normalizing

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normal community, and behalf of myself who honestly remembers watching

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your content and crying in a hospital bed being reminded

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of just that like that, Tomorrow wants to see you,

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and so do I. It's such a beautiful moment. I'm

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so grateful, so thank you so much for being you

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and we will see you next time. I'm Quick Before

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you Forget.

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Thank you for having me. I'll be back.

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Thank you for being here with me today on Quick

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Before you Forget.

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Please like, share and

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Subscribe as that helps the show so much and I

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really appreciate it and I'll see you next time on

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Quick Before you Forget,