June 29, 2026

How to Trust Yourself Again: Kristin Mackey on Intuition, Burnout, and Living Authentically

How to Trust Yourself Again: Kristin Mackey on Intuition, Burnout, and Living Authentically

Most of us spend our lives trying to become someone better, but somewhere along the way, many of us forget who we already are.

I think that's exactly when and why life starts to feel too heavy, making this meaningful conversation with Kristin Mackey perfectly time for you.

Yes you. Right now, right here, you need this message in your life. How do I know? Because I need the reminder too.

In this episode of Quick Before You Forget, Kristin Mackey reminds us that growth doesn't necessarily mean "more." It could, and often should, mean "less." Sometimes it's about peeling away everything that was never really you. Leaving that job you should have left months (or years) ago. Letting go of a relationship you thought was going to last forever because it just doesn't fit anymore.

We've all faced these things and I have learned by trial, error, and often a lot more heartache than necessary that the most important character in the story? It's you. Remember that, and your life will change for the better. Trust me. And if you don't trust me, trust Kristin. She literally wrote a book about how to get to know yourself better by listening to your own frequency.

Together, Kristin and I explore intuition, authenticity, burnout, leadership, relationships, and what it means to live in alignment with your values instead of everyone else's expectations. If you've been feeling stuck, lost, burned out, or simply like you've drifted away from yourself, this conversation is your reminder that your way forward may actually begin by coming home to who you've been all along.

Her song of survival is Conviction of the Heart by Kenny Loggins, her megaphone moment is to "be kind," and you need her frequency in your life.

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They let me into the cockpit. So now I'm in

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the cockpit. This is a true story. And I'm in

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the cockpit. And now and I'm in the cockpit. I'm

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looking to the left, Hello, and I'm looking to the right, hello.

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And they say, ma'am, what are you doing in the cockpit.

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Kristen Mackie, welcome to aquick before you forget hi.

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Thank you so much. It is an honor to be here.

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I am so excited you're here. Guys. This is my friend,

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my dear friend, Kristen, and she is somebody who, like me,

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believes that your energy speaks before your words ever do.

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Kristin Mackie is a speaker, leadership expert, illustrator and creator

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of Frequency Matters, a movement centered around emotional resonance, conscious leadership,

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and the idea that how we show up impacts everything

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around us. She has worked with organizations like Franklin, Covey, Lockheed, Martin,

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hard Rock, and universities across the country, helping people become

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contributors instead of just employees. And today we're going to

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talk about all of the things. Kristin, I'm so pumped. Yeah,

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me too.

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I'm so excited to be here, Ty, thank you for

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having me.

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Oh my gosh, well I am if you can't tell. Guys,

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we're friends. Kristin and I know each other from another life,

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and I love your work with frequency. So people, there's

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people that get it and there's people that don't. So

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I feel like before we launch into a whole conversation

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about frequency, I think we need to just level set.

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Can you talk us through your perception of what frequency

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is and why it matters so much?

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Yes? Absolutely. Frequency, to put it simply, is the stuff

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of life. It is everything in life and reality through

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physics is vibration. It's energy. And so when we use

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the term frequency, you have sound waves, music is frequency.

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You know, my communicating right here is frequency. But we

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also have an energy about us, you know. We know

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through the example of when you meet someone and you

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feel really great and you feel comfortable and you're being

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very well received, and then there's sometimes you meet someone

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and you feel a little bit pulled back and not

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so comfortable. That is what I like to say. The

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energy behind the individual, their thoughts, their feelings, their beliefs,

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the way they're carrying themselves and what they're bringing to

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a specific space is frequency. But frequency is everything. It's

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everything that we see in life is energy.

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And why does it matter so much?

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Well, it matters because it actually impacts us more than

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we realize. Too often we think, you know, oh, it's

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just a concept or it's an idea, But have you

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ever been in a situation where you were truly powerfully

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influenced by someone because of the way that they carried

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themselves or frequency can be found in executive presence. We

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know when someone has executive presence and they're carrying themselves

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or their energy a certain way with confidence or confidence

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and confidence that energy is translated to you can trust me,

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I am your leader. How we hold our energy is

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such an important thing, and it matters, and it matters

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when we're parenting with our children. It matters. My dog

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can tell when I have a a in a positive

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space or not so positive space. So our frequency matters

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because it is how we are bringing our energy into

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the space of another person. We're very conscious of you know,

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how am I saying something? Or you know how am

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I dressed? Or all those different details, But when we're

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actually interacting with somebody, we're bringing our biosphere right near

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and in their biosphere and I call it managing your

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particles or your your sub atomic particles, but we're actually

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bringing our energy into their energy, and it's it's a

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more intimate thing than folks realize. And the more we

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understand what frequency is and how it plays a role

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and how we co create, I think the better our

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relationships will be, the more positive the outcomes will be

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if we understand the concept of frequency in our everyday interactions.

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Well, I love that you walk through all the different

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parts of life, because we all wear a lot of

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different hats right where parents, we're you know, employees, we're different.

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matters in all of those spaces. So I'm curious when you, like,

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if you look back on life a little bit, like

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when did you first art to feel and understand how

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important frequency was around you and for you? Like were

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you a kid? And like a very like in tune

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child would talk us through that.

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Yes, I was. I was very sensitive. The term sensitive

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can also be translated as intuitive, very clear, this, that

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and the other thing. And I found that there were

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moments in my life in my childhood where I would

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get an intuition about something and it would end up

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being correct and it had a very positive outcome. And

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I would get an intuition about something else and it

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would guide me to go one direction or the next.

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intuition was actually a skill. It wasn't something that, oh,

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I'm you know, over sensitive. Because in my first book

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I talk about I was upset that the lawn was cut.

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also ended up being a little bit more practical as

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I got older. So when I was a child, I

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was extremely sensitive, very very empathic, would feel into the

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feelings of others. I never wanted anyone's feelings hurt to

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a fault. And I also would be that child that

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would line up my stuffed animals and make sure they

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were comfortable because I felt like they felt their experience.

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So that is really where it was rooted from. And

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then as I got older and I started to test

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that intuition, I started to recognize there's more to life

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than what I understand. There's more to life than what

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I've been taught. There's more to reality than is actually

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available to us. So I went down the rabbit hole

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of research and reading lots of things to get to frequency.

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Well, your frequency. You said something about it not working,

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like being to a I think you said to a fault.

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And that made me wonder when there's been a time

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for you that you ignored it, like you didn't listen

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to the intuition, and something happened after that that made

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you realize you didn't listen to the intuition. But can

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you walk us through a situation where that's happened to

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you and how you kind of learn what you learned

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from that experience.

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Sure, I think in life we have relationships are the

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arena that we learn the most. We learn the most

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from our relationships, whether they're great relationships or strain relationships.

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And there was a specific relationship that I had where

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there was a bit of a betrayal that occurred and

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the intuition that I had. You know, sometimes when we

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have an intuition of something, you know, feeling right or

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not so right, it is anchored into am I reading

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into this? Am I looking for something that isn't there?

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And we want to give folks the benefit of the doubt.

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We want to see that everyone is coming from the

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right place. And most of the time I think folks

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are I really do. I truly believe that that folks

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have the right intention. But sometimes when our intuition is

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telling us something doesn't feel right or we're not sitting,

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something doesn't sit well with us, and we ignore it

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and then we find out that we were right along.

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That is when it is sort of the ding that

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I talk about in frequency matters. You know, wait for

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the ding. So what I've actually learned to do with

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intuition is hem and hall a little bit until I

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get enough concrete data from the experience or from the

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exchange to say ding. And that is when I know

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I'm on point with intuition. But it was a betrayal,

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and in that betrayal, it made me realize that it's

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okay to step back and say where's my discernment? And

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discernment is a really important thing to cultivate when you

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have intuition or when you are very sensitive to a situation,

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because because a lot of individuals that are empathic really

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feel into to a person and have an incredible amount

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of compassion, and so you have this compassion, you deeply care,

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you're always looking for that can't be the situation, No,

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and then you get blindsided that it was the situation.

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And so I learned in that experience that when I

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feel uneasy and it comes to me in the form

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of strong anxiety, when I feel that unease, something isn't

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in alignment with my best interests. And when something is

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not in aligned doesn't mean a person as a bad person.

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But if something is not in alignment with my best interests,

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then I need to step back and recognize my intuition

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is telling me something that is very important. Did that

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answer your question.

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Yeah, very much so. And I it also made me

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curious about that little girl with her stuffed animals all

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lined up, because I that that. You know, my dear

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son loves raccoons and he has a whole family of them.

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He turns he turns eleven tomorrow, and I'm going to

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set them up for HI when he gets on from school.

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I'm really excited about this. I'm going to set them

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up and have them be like partying for his part

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for his birthday. But you had, you had that attention

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to even like inanimate creatures, which is very cute and

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very special to me because my son is the same,

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and I want to know who a person is like

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who is a who did who did you learn from?

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About frequency? At a young age.

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It came to me through consistent reading, believe it or not.

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At a very I was an avid reader and I

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loved going into the bookstore. I played a lot of sports,

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So the term frequency came to me when I, excuse me,

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went down the rabbit hole of trying to understand what

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I was feeling. You know, why am I feeling what

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I'm feeling? Why am I getting the experience? Is that

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I'm getting what is truth? What is false? And what

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is reality? And so playing sports, I would find certain

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I would have a certain mindset and how that particular

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game would go, how the relationships would go. If I

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would it would handle it a certain way. And there

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was one moment I'll never forget this tie. I was

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in a seminar and I was teaching, and I was

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a person came in late. They're in the back of

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the seminar, and they came in late, and they were

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really frustrated and they were banging their paper down, and

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I remember thinking in my head, this person is going

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to be that one person that is going to derail

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the whole program. And I'm sitting there thinking, oh my goodness,

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this is going to derail the whole program. And I

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started to have those normal feelings of getting frustrated and

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how am I going to handle this? And am I

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going to stand near them? You know all the tips

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and tricks we have as professional speakers to manage group

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dynamics when they had the potential of getting out of hand.

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And then I stopped myself, and I stopped myself and

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I said, you know what, I Am going to sit

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here and I'm going to have in my mind. I'm

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going to love this person. I'm going to put in

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my mind the term I love you as they are

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fussing in the back of the class, and I'm going

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to not I'm going to stop any kind of judgment,

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any kind of frustration in my mind. I'm just going

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to stop that thinking pattern, and I'm just going to

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flood the concept or the mindset of I love you,

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and I just it was a test. And the more

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I did this that she calmed down and I carried

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my energy a little bit differently. I was a little

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bit softer, I wasn't so defensive, I was a little

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bit more receptive. I started to recognize, let me see,

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if this works. It was a test, it really was,

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and she started to ease up, get me more relaxed,

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started to calm down, and then she raised her hand

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and I answered her question. And I answered it in

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a way that was receptive, It was positive, It was

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it was very, very connecting, and I realized at that

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moment I had power with the way that I thought

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that I carried myself, the mindset that I had in

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shifting the entire seminar and that particular experience. Normally I

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would read in a manual that would say here's what

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you need to do to handle this. You know all

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the different directions. But I thought, I want to try

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something different. I want to see if I can shift

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the energy here. And I wanted to do it genuinely,

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not a tip or trick. I wanted to truly see

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is this person's energy? Are their particles all over the place?

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by holding space for them a little bit while they

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get unfussed. And they sure enough did, and they ended

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up being one of the best participants in the class.

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She did not disrupt the class at all. I think

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she just needed a little love and it was really positive.

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field hockey coach, and teachers and friends. That all influenced me.

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really solidified it for me, in recognizing what I was

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feeling inside and how I was applying that to my

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external environment.

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Field hockey. Yes, tell me about field like I can't

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picture Kristen doing field Did you like it?

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Oh, my goodness, ty, I played. Yes, I played field hockey.

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I loved it. Fun I did.

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I got a scholarship in field hockey. Uh, and I

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was also Hall of Fame. It was fun, just a

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little little bit of a I was an athlete and

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I loved it. I played field hockey, I ran track,

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I was a cheerleader and in the school play. So

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I did a lot of different things, felt a lot

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of different energy fields.

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If I might, Yes, different types of.

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Personalities are attracted to different energy fields, and I was

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able to observe that. So thank you for that question.

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That that really was a great way to see that

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our experience as children a lot of time are we're

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in the environment. So I saw the field hockey. I

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played front line in field hockey.

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Wow, I wouldn't. I I did not know that. I didn't,

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and I'm grateful that I do now. And I'm grateful

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that you shared that you had a variety where it

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was like you were in, you were an athlete and

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you were in you said musicals, Yes, musicals a very

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different fields in the high school realm of social life.

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So that's really cool that you were able to have

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that variety. I also did a lot of things, but

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I couldn't figure out the athlete part I did. I

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was a swimmer, and it was yes, and but it wasn't.

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It wasn't. It wasn't a team at my high school.

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my school, even though I was doing you know, two

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hour night some practices for the majority of high school.

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But the thing that I'm noticing a lot in whether

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you're you know, whether you've got a field hockey stick

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in your hand or you're at that bookstore, is you're

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learning and you have developed these tools to use. And

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you didn't say that, you said specifically like this isn't

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a tip or a trick, but it is because people,

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you know, what you said about love, like doubling down

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on love in a difficult situation could apply in so

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many different situations. So I kind of have a two

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pronged question there because I want to know what you've

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had to unlearn that you thought was true about frequency

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and about how frequency shows up for us. But then

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what you what's the most common thing that that shows

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up across all the different learnings that you have about frequency.

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So it's maybe kind of the same question, but go

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with that where you may.

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Yes, when when we think of frequency, we think of

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the highest frequency being authenticity. A person wants to be themselves. Okay,

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say they want to be their natural personality, but every

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field of energy that they're in, there's going to be

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different ways that it feels. So to the example that

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we gave with you know, a childhood or someone growing up,

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they're playing a sport that feels a certain way. You're

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an executive, it feels a certain way. You're a writer,

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or you're a teacher, you're a parent, it feels a

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certain way, and in the context of that feeling will

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come a certain way of processing information, processing our environment,

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and then giving ourselves that sort of internal language around

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what are we interpreting in that environment, And where the

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challenge sometimes comes in is as a person is in

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a space where they feel confident and great about where

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they are, they can speak to the topic. They feel confident,

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they are a Jedi in that space. But if you

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put them in a completely different environment, they may feel

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a little bit uncomfortable. And if you're sensitive, intuitive, empathic,

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it's easy to feel defensive. It's easy to have walls

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up for good reason, because now you're all of a

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sudden absorbing or a tuning, or swimming in a whole

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different energy field where you have to find your sea legs.

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So I use the example of grabbing someone. Your swimming

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example is perfect ill diving into a pool of energy,

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and they have to learn to swim in that field

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of energy, that space. Then you have to learn to

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swim in different types of spaces, and the biggest challenge

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you have is unlearning your defense mechanisms to stay open,

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to stay receptive, to stay aware. But discernment not defensiveness.

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So discernment is where as you begin to have a

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more sophisticated level of understanding your frequency or your energy,

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you'll be able to say I like this, I can

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move towards this. I'm going to draw a boundary here.

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I like this, I'm going to engage in this process.

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I'm going to draw a boundary here, rather than going

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into a space aggressively or negatively or anything like that,

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and rather holding back or letting somebody go into your

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space without a boundary. So when we think of being

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really authentic and having that authenticity to be ourselves, recognizing

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that every single experience we have, we have our own

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little universe where we feel empowered and safe. But when

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we swim in different pools, right, it's a whole different ballgame.

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And we have to recognize that being humble, being receptive, receptive,

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listening and learning in that space will allow you to

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feel the energy of a brand new environment, skill, role promotion, parenting, situation.

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You'll find that frequency is in all these different experiences

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and you have to unlearn what made you feel super

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confident in the other pool. And that I think is

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an invitation for many individuals at an individual level and

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a collective level, because when the pandemic hit, everyone started

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to recognize that really fast. We're all all of a sudden,

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we're in a situation where we have this, we have

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to navigate technology, we have to navigate this, we have

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to navigate that. And so those that maybe listening may

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recognize you remember that place of oh my goodness, I'm

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on the air, and do I look at the right way?

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And is zoom recording me when I stand up? And

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all the jokes on the air were there with the

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shorts being on. But it really was a snapshot of

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humanity at its finest, because I think it really showed

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us that, you know, we can either pretend we're all

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perfect in doing all the right things, or a pandemic

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is going to show us what humanity is and we're

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going to learn how to swim in different pools together.

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And that is what frequency is.

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Well, you said a lot about how a person I mean,

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you said a lot with a few words I should

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say about how at the root of everything, people just

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want to be themselves. Like that's a very powerful thing,

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because yes, and the world kind of gets in the way,

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like you know, you and I were joking around about

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zoom filters and different you know, things that change our

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presentation to the world and make us not quite not

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quite ourselves. But at the root of it, Ultimately, we

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all just want to be ourselves. So what happens in

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situations when people aren't allowed to be themselves for whatever reason?

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It sometimes happens in corporate or in you know, different

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settings when you know maybe the different kinds of water

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to lean into your swimming pool analogy, But when someone's

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not allowed or encouraged to be themselves, what happens? And

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what can that teach us about our relationships and how

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we show up for others.

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I always make the distinction between authenticity and then recognizing authenticity,

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and then the authenticity that we bring into our professional environment.

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So we can be authentic in one space where we

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let our hair down personally, but when we jump into

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a professional environment, it's authenticity polished. And the greatest definition

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for authenticity in a professional arena is consideration. Just when

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you are authentic and you are truly being in that

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professional space, you are embodying the vibration or the frequency

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of consideration. When you are in an environment where all

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of a sudden you start to feel that I can't

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be myself or you are being in that considerate space.

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That's the definition that we're answering in this piece here.

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It's great information to recognize. Am I going to be

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able to utilize all of my talents? Am I going

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to be able to really contribute in a way that

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is fair to the organization, the team that I'm working in,

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the environment that I'm in, and is it fair to

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my talents and my skills. And that's one of the

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biggest reasons why in frequency matters I talk about having

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screens and playing to your strengths bo both on the

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end of the employer bringing in someone that they really

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feel is a great fit so that they can tap

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into their genius, tap into their strengths and they're thriving

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without running down the line and finding that they're not

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a really great fit. And I also encourage folks when

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they're applying or they're in an environment and it doesn't resonate,

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to really step back and say, is this something that's temporary?

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Is this something that can be worked out? Can I

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have a conversation, a critical conversation and massage that into

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a better outcome.

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Can I be.

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Honest and authentic and deeply connect with someone and really

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get an outcome that is going to give me a

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positive result? Win win or is this a win win

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no deal back to seven habits of highly effective people. Right,

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we pin back to the win win or no deal principle.

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If we exhaust you know, if we are in the

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camp of being considerate and we are that authenticity that

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is mindful of the place that we work, and we've

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had the critical conversations, we've exhausted all the options and

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there's no deal, then it's not a win win for anyone.

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And I always recommend someone to I always recommend start

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to explore where the environment will support you, what environment

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will feed your heart, your soul, your value system, where

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you can thrive. It doesn't have to be this dramatic, hard,

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you know, transition. It can be something that moves softer.

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But if it is, then maybe that's just an alignment

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of frequencies. When things come into my life and they

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instantly disappear and I think, oh, I really wanted that,

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or that didn't work out. Somebody reached out to me

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and asked me that. They said, oh, I was about

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to donate something to a client, and they didn't get

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back to me. So I never was able to donate

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that to the client. And my first instinct was you

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weren't a vibrational match. There was someone else that was

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going to benefit from what it is that you were

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donating because they were a vibrational match to it. And

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maybe it was the vibration of generosity. Your frequency was

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vibrating generosity, and who you were trying to generate or

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donate that too might have had the vibration or the

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energy of struggle or and that's not going to be

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a match. So all of a sudden, somebody that was

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really filled with gratitude and really feeling gracious, they were

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the match to that frequency. So when it does get

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really tricky, I do believe that if you stay too

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long in something that doesn't really resonate with your energy,

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you're not doing yourself or anyone around you a service.

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We've all been there, Yeah, and it's it's it's one

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of those you know, another Franklin Covey thing is says

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easy does hard, right, So it's another one of those

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like we know, you know a lot of times we

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know we have that feeling, we have that pull, and

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it's just it's hard for whatever reason. So how do

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you work through the heart when when when you know,

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like you know that it's it's the wrong fit frequency wise,

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how do you what's the first step you can take

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toward writing that ship.

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The first step is to focus on where your mindset is.

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Do a personal inventory. I have an exercise where I

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have folks get a piece of paper and draw a

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big baby cartoon head of themselves looking into their mind,

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and then just draw little dots in that big cartoon

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babyhead and say, what are your deepest core beliefs? Target

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those deep core beliefs and find out, am I thinking

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patterns causing me to feel discomfort? Are my belief systems

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causing me to feel discomfort? Am I in alignment? Are

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my belief systems in alignment with the environment I'm in.

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Once you do the inner work of the self awareness

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and the self inventory, you can become very clear about

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I am really clear that I've done the inner work,

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and I feel really good about who I am and

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where I stand and what my morals, values and ethics are,

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and I feel that this is not a good fit.

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The next thing to do is to start to really

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take inventory of the environment and see are there any

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00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:58.000
opportunities within. Maybe if it's a small operation, there might

471
00:26:58.039 --> 00:26:59.640
not be. If it's medium, there might be one or

472
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.119
two opportunities that you can segue into a different department.

473
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.440
If it's a large organization, and I've worked with many

474
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.119
large organizations, I would advise and coach an individual to

475
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.640
explore a whole different wing or area or even a

476
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.759
site an off site where they can stay in alignment

477
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.039
with the organization they love. Maybe they're just not connecting

478
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.519
with their immediate supervisor at that time. So it really

479
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:25.960
does depend on the size of the organization and the

480
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.759
players at play, and whether that person is truly connected

481
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.839
to where they are working and they love it, or

482
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.799
if it's you know, they've decided, you know, I'm really

483
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.400
not aligned with the organization, then they begin that process

484
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.119
of saying I am clear about who I am. I

485
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.359
recommend this book, The Zen and the Art of Making

486
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.839
a Living I have recommended so many people to read

487
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.200
that book. I read it in my journey, very early

488
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:53.279
in my career. I give it the credit that Zen

489
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:55.839
and the Art of Making a Live in by Larne G. Bolt,

490
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.400
was the book that told me to be a professional speaker. Ultimately,

491
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.839
after I worked out the questions and and I found

492
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.200
out that is what my calling was. It really allowed

493
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:09.559
me to get to the heart of all the different

494
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:13.640
complexities of person is so find out your core nature,

495
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:17.440
find out you know, who moved my parachute, and then

496
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.359
if your environment cannot offer you an option, then find

497
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.319
an environment that does. Because I really think that if

498
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:28.160
you spend your time, your energy, and your resources in

499
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.160
a space where you don't feel aligned, you don't feel

500
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.880
you're appreciated, you don't feel that you're getting you're not

501
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.240
being respected in the way that you deserve, or you're

502
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.559
not feeling that there is a win win outcome here,

503
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.440
that doesn't really help anybody. And it's the ideal is

504
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:45.160
the idea is to move on to something that does resonate.

505
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:51.440
Wow, Like that's a you know what I heard you say, Kristen,

506
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.200
is it starts with you? Yes, get out of your

507
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.599
own way, right, Like, if there's an issue that's that's happening,

508
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.960
it's not their fault, it's it's on you to figure

509
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.319
out what you what aligns with you, and what your

510
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.880
beliefs are and all of the things. So I think

511
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.680
that there's there's there's pressure in that, but it's also

512
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.440
kind of a relief because it's like it does, it

513
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.799
does start with you, And I love that cartoon bubble

514
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.319
map idea I like, I have found my brain, kind

515
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:24.640
of picturing it for myself in real time, and it

516
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.599
reminded me a little bit of the movie Inside Out.

517
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.319
Have you seen that movie and the Inside Out too? No?

518
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.519
Oh my gosh, you as a frequency girl, you need

519
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.039
to see both of them. The second one I was.

520
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:36.880
I went to see it with my kids in the

521
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.160
theater and I was like the obscene, obnoxious one in

522
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.480
the pack cry. I was either crying like like like

523
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.119
the sobbing crying or laughing. There was no in between

524
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.640
the entire time. Because as a as a person that

525
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:56.079
studies humanity and psychology, and I love I just love people,

526
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.400
and I love studying how the mind works. It's just

527
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.519
a fascinating study and it brings a lot of what

528
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.839
you said was just like glowing up lights from my

529
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:08.960
brain on from inside out. So everybody needs to see

530
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:10.920
that movie. And the second one is even better. So

531
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.319
the stuff we talked about is a little bit hard,

532
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.519
Like I feel like, you know, getting to know yourself

533
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.240
should be a joy, and it is in a lot

534
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.480
of ways, but it can be difficult, and you know,

535
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.440
pushing outside of a situation that's uncomfortable to grow and

536
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.079
become better. It's a little a little hard. Let's talk

537
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.319
something more fun. So another place where frequency comes in,

538
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.480
obviously is music, and music is one of my I

539
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.200
talk about mindset, music and movement and how those tools

540
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.720
have essentially helped me build my own real life from

541
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.400
the ground up, and music is so crucial to that.

542
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.519
So when we talk about music, I need to know

543
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.599
what is Kristen Mackie's song of survival? Like, do you

544
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.920
have a song that you go to in times when

545
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:58.880
you need to ground yourself? Yes? You do, I know

546
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:00.359
you do. Yeah.

547
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.119
Absolutely my favorite song, and it is a song it's

548
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:08.480
called Conviction of the Heart by Kenny Loggins. Yeah. Just

549
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.359
such a beautiful song, and it is a reminder that

550
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:16.319
we are all connected and that everything is connected, We're

551
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.400
all connected to each other, and it reminds me to

552
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.880
ground myself in the heart centered thinking. It's uplifting, it's inspiring.

553
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.559
I watch the video and I just love it. Conviction

554
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.039
of the Heart by Kenny Loggins.

555
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.240
I love that song. That's a great one, and I

556
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:31.720
love the meaning behind it. So thank you for sharing

557
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.400
that with me. What would you tell twenty two year

558
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:35.799
old you if you could.

559
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.519
Twenty two year old me, I would tell twenty two

560
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:44.519
two year old me that it's have fun with life,

561
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:50.200
you know, just have fun. Sometimes when you are you're

562
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:52.839
at a certain age, you don't realize how young you are.

563
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.720
You know, there's so much pressure. I see this when

564
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.240
I work with universities. I see this when I work

565
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:01.880
with students, And this question reminds me of my own

566
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.839
twenty two year old self when I was just graduating

567
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.200
college and I have to, you know, change the world.

568
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.599
And you know it's yeah, you can change the world.

569
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:13.480
You could try to change the world. You can follow

570
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.480
your gut and move in those directions. But you're also

571
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.799
twenty two years old. There's so many things to experience,

572
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.720
and it's such a time of discovery. It's such a

573
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.799
time of exploration. So I would tell my twenty two

574
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.440
year old self to just have a little bit more fun.

575
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:33.400
Yeah, I love that. I want to know what you're

576
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.599
doing to have fun now, though, Like, how are you

577
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.680
following your own advice as whatever age you are today?

578
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.880
Yes, I think fun is what we make it.

579
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:43.240
You know.

580
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:47.000
Everybody's so wired differently. And I am a runner. I

581
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:49.880
absolutely love to run, and I take my dog on

582
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.759
the beach I'm in Florida, so having fun and running

583
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.559
on the beach with my dog, meeting all the other dogs.

584
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.960
It's just such a playful and joyful thing to do,

585
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.920
and I just love it. It's just such an amazing thing.

586
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.839
And I know that sometimes when we are at that

587
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.240
age twenty two years old, we're kind of navigating life.

588
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:13.279
When we're pressured. We sometimes put so much pressure on ourselves,

589
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.279
and I think it being able to relax a little

590
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.440
bit is an important thing for young people to remember. Yeah,

591
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:21.480
I know I needed it.

592
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.039
Yeah, slow down. I mean, I need to follow that

593
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.200
advice because I'm horrible it's slowing down. I like to

594
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.319
keep going and I kind of live in this realm

595
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.480
where I feel like I'm running out of time constantly.

596
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.880
So I got to like remember to just it's okay,

597
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.319
slow down, take a breath. You can sit on your

598
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.400
butt and read a book for a while and not

599
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.720
have to be responding to thousands of comments on your

600
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.039
video about roller coasters, you know, Like Kristen, I have

601
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.400
this video right now, and it's funny that we're talking

602
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.039
about having fun because I have a video on TikTok

603
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.000
right now that's going pretty crazy and it has a

604
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:57.839
it's a roller coaster SYNCD with Taylor Swift to music,

605
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.359
and it's a dream and something that I have been

606
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.279
wanting to do for so long, but I didn't have

607
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:05.160
the technology to make it happen. So my husband actually

608
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:09.719
bought me the glasses that you can record on Christmas

609
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:13.559
and I so cool. They're so cool. And now I

610
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.800
am sharing and I'm feeling I'm just it's very much

611
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:18.679
fresh in the moment right now. So that's why I'm

612
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.119
sharing it with you because I feel like I need

613
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.920
to remember just to slow down a little bit. It's okay,

614
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:26.920
It's okay to slow down.

615
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.760
We all do, we all do. I find that when

616
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.400
we do that, our brain waves get better. I get

617
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.079
better ideas when I slow down, and it just feels better,

618
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:36.760
doesn't it tough?

619
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.320
It does? It does? I also get all But my

620
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:41.320
problem is I also get all the ideas while I'm

621
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:43.400
working out, and then I have no way or mean

622
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.320
of like writing anything down in the moment, and I

623
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.320
lose all of all of those world changing ideas.

624
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:52.360
Just oh god, you'll take a notebook with you. You

625
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.239
got to take a note or record it? Right?

626
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.440
I should? But I so what I do is I

627
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.880
have this virtual reality headset, like one of those big

628
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.920
white Yeah. So it's like I can't write and do

629
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.000
because I'm I'm fighting aliens essentially, like I have the

630
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.079
I have the lightsabers, and I'm going crazy about them.

631
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.280
But it's really fun and I find that it's music, mindset,

632
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.239
and movement all in one, which is part of why

633
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.239
it's such a happy place for my brain, because all

634
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.159
three of those things thrive when I'm you know, doing

635
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.840
the crazy lightsaber battles. But Supernatural is more than lightsaber battles.

636
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:28.960
It's a it's a workout game and it's amazing and

637
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:33.119
it's changed my life. But you run, and Sport runs

638
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.519
with you, and Sport is the cutest little doggy guys.

639
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:40.960
I think he's not on camera, but he's adorable. And

640
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.559
I want to know what is an unreal life that

641
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.519
you've experienced? And I was like, it's a horrible turn,

642
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.000
but I don't it's okay. What is an unreal moment

643
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.239
from your life that you have experienced that has changed

644
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.360
the trajectory in some way for good or for bad?

645
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.679
An unreal experience in this was pre nine to eleven,

646
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.840
So I really want to stress that. It was pre

647
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.480
nine eleven. I was in my twenties and I was

648
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.960
traveling extensively. So I would travel anywhere from eight to

649
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:13.880
thirteen cities a month, and I would have my bag

650
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.400
in my polyester suit and I would just go city

651
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.000
to city to city. And I remember once landing in

652
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:23.079
North Dakota, and I was exhausted. It was the kind

653
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.079
of exhausted you get when you get cold, do you

654
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:27.920
know what I'm you know, and you get so tired

655
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.760
you're cold, And so I get on this plane and

656
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.000
I'm so ready to go home and We're supposed to

657
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.599
be flying. It was in North Dakota and we were

658
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.960
flying into Detroit and I'm sitting there and exhausted, tired.

659
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:43.079
We ended up sitting on the airplane four or five hours.

660
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.360
It was before some of the regulations, and I was exhausted,

661
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.559
but I was in the front of the plane. And

662
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:50.840
then all of a sudden, I start to hear the

663
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:55.000
flight attendants talking to the pilot and they started to say,

664
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.239
I don't think we're going to be able to land.

665
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.719
This ice storm that has been grounding us is not

666
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.599
good to allow us to take off and land in

667
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.039
the city. The whole city is frozen over. So I'm

668
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.599
listening to them say that the city is frozen over.

669
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.280
There are no hotels, we're not gonna be able to

670
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.320
get rental cars. We're grounded because we can't fly into

671
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.119
the city. And I thought, okay, well then they're probably

672
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.079
gonna pull the plate over and let us get all

673
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.320
off because I am hankering for a brownie Sunday in

674
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.239
my room and I just want to get there. So

675
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.480
that's not what happened. What happened is I'm sitting there

676
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.280
listening and all of a sudden, I hear them get

677
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.800
on the intercom and say, all right, we're gonna we're

678
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.239
gonna take off. We're gonna head out to the city.

679
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:42.119
And my entire body just went boom, it just lit up,

680
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.960
and I just thought, I have to do something. I

681
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:48.679
don't know why I have to do something. Is that

682
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:52.920
intuition that came inside I have to do something. So no,

683
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.199
I'm not gonna do anything. It's that hemming and hauling

684
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:57.960
that we get with intuition, and it's a practice. No,

685
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.760
I'm not gonna do anything again. Nine to eleven, oh,

686
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.599
doing back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.

687
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.199
So I stood up and then I lifted the bag.

688
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.039
I lifted the overhead. I was very calm, very centered.

689
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.679
I grabbed my bag down and I've just very professionally

690
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.360
walk up and I say, excuse me. I did hear

691
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.960
what everyone said, and I think you should pull see

692
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.840
that little that just can we just pull the plane

693
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.960
over and let let us off, because I did hear

694
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.039
what you had to say, and you were flying us

695
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.639
into an area that is completely frozen over. If you

696
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.800
look behind me, we have elderly in this plane. We

697
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.119
have children in this plane. I was young at the time,

698
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:40.599
so you know, I was really fired up and not

699
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:44.519
you know, emotionally, but strong. You know, I didn't have

700
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:48.039
the wisdom I have now. And she said, ma'am, I

701
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.599
think you just need to sit down, and it was calm,

702
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.880
and I, no, I really think that we should pull

703
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.280
the plane over. No hold on, let me talk to

704
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:58.199
the let me talk to the pilot. So she pulls

705
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.559
me in and she comes back out in the pilot.

706
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.480
You know we're going to take off. Noah, I heard

707
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:07.400
you say that you're flying us into it a nicy city.

708
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.159
Are you saying that? You know I don't have any

709
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.760
control I'm not allowed off the plane. Is that what

710
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.280
you're saying? And so next thing, you know, they open

711
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.920
up the cockpit. They let me into the cockpit. So

712
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.400
now I'm in the cockpit. This is a true story.

713
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.920
And I'm in the cockpit. And now I'm and I'm

714
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:24.880
in the cockpit. I'm looking to the left, hello, and

715
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.119
I'm looking to the right, hello. And they say, ma'am,

716
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.079
what are you doing in the cockpit? You know, you

717
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.960
were not pulling the plane over. And I said, I

718
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:40.480
heard everything that was said. And we have a whole

719
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.559
flight of individuals where we have been here for five hours,

720
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.559
four or five hours. There's a little door right there.

721
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.639
You could just scooch over and let us off the plane.

722
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.440
You're flying us into a frozen city. And I you

723
00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:00.280
know the story, needless to say, he says, I'm looks

724
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.840
at the gentlemen. They pulled the plane over. They pulled

725
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.280
the seven thirty seven over, and they put it up

726
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.800
to this. They put the door down, and it was

727
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.719
like a scene in a movie. I got out of

728
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.039
the plane and I'm walking and at this point I

729
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.239
was shaking. It was, you know, it was one of

730
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.960
those moments. Three quarters of the plane got off. The

731
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:26.000
airport was completely dark, and it was just me and

732
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.039
everybody in the airplane behind me. I'm shaking, my eyes

733
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:34.239
are watering. I cannot believe. Number One, that I just

734
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.119
did that. Number two, I was successful at doing that,

735
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.079
and I'm not in trouble again. It was pre nine

736
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:43.239
to eleven. I wasn't yelling, it wasn't anything negative, but

737
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.119
it was at that moment it felt like a scene

738
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.599
in a movie. I remember just being being filled with

739
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.239
so much emotion, and I remember thinking the power of

740
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:57.400
good communication skills, the power of holding your energy grounded

741
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:03.639
and centered and influenced, the power of speaking truth into

742
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:07.599
a space, the power of conviction of your heart right,

743
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.960
the power that that had. That I just influenced the situation,

744
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.800
and all these people got off the plane. Otherwise they

745
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.559
would have flown into a frozen city there might have.

746
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:24.599
So that was pivotal for me because I was about

747
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:30.000
twenty four at the time, and somebody that probably was

748
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.000
a mentor would have coached me not to do that,

749
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.159
but I did anyway, and it taught me that if

750
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:41.280
I practice the power of communication and influence and I

751
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.880
do the work to understand what it is that I'm

752
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:48.440
communicating aka frequency, then I have the ability to influence

753
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:53.000
positive outcomes in ways that can positively impact other human beings.

754
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.079
And even if it doesn't feel like it's possible, even

755
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:01.960
if it feels like there's no way this five foot three,

756
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.440
twenty four year old is going to pull over a

757
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.000
seven thirty seven, I was able to do that, and

758
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.000
it changed the trajectory of my life because it gave

759
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.159
me the confidence to write the books that I wrote,

760
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.559
to move in the direction of quantum physics and frequency

761
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.800
in corporate America and move into the direction of saying,

762
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.880
these things are real and energy is real, and you

763
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:25.960
can have a good outcome if you learn them. I

764
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.159
don't know if that makes sense, but it was powerful

765
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:28.400
for me.

766
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.840
It absolutely makes sense, and it is very powerful because

767
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:36.239
it wasn't necessarily easy for you to do that, like

768
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.800
it was. It was something that you hemmed and hot

769
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.679
over and you were kind of going back and forth

770
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.519
with your own self about and then the self that

771
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.199
now has prospered one yay and everybody got off the

772
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.800
plane and you, you know, saved a lot of people

773
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.519
from a lot of potential heartbreak that day, but also

774
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.639
not heartbreak, but you know, the inconvenience and safety, you know,

775
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.000
elderly folks and stuff on that and an a frozen

776
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:04.159
city is not great, but that is powerful. Thank you

777
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.480
for that story. Oh my gosh, I don't know what

778
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.760
I thought you'd say, but I wasn't expecting it to

779
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:11.519
involve pulling over at seven thirty seven.

780
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.920
Well, you know, it's one of those stories that I

781
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.840
rarely ever tell anyone actually, so yeah, but when we

782
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:24.480
talk about pivotal, I think, you know, when it comes

783
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.800
to life, we all have heartbreak and disappointment and betrayal.

784
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.519
And I've had all of those losses and wins that

785
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.159
have shaped turn a corner this way or turned a

786
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.519
corner that way. But when I pin back to the

787
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.000
work that I do, the biggest the biggest block to

788
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.760
that work was believing in my own ability to influence

789
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.639
an outcome with something beyond someone saying I could do it, yeah,

790
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:55.559
you know, not getting permission to do something, and that

791
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:58.360
was very powerful. So I often like to share with

792
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.719
folks that when you anchor to your own authenticity, and

793
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.519
when you anchor to who you truly are, your voice,

794
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.880
who you are, having that confidence in who you are,

795
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.440
you don't always need permission to be yourself. And sometimes

796
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.199
when you don't have that permission to be yourself, life

797
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.599
will give you an opportunity to test it a little

798
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.440
bit so that you will then see the outcome of that.

799
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.039
And sometimes I made mistakes and I learned those mistakes

800
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:26.559
and thought, that is not what I want to do.

801
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.679
I don't want to move in that direction. But I

802
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.840
chose that story because I felt like it pinned back

803
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.000
to the message around having confidence and moving into a

804
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.559
direction when we don't have all the answers, and having

805
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:41.960
the gratitude for some of the harder things that we

806
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:43.440
experience and move forward.

807
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.000
Well, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful story, and it's beautifully said.

808
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.519
So thank you for that. And it fast forwards us

809
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.159
to eighty years old. When you're eighty years old, and

810
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:57.840
she's smiling because I sent her this question before the

811
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:02.159
show peak behind the curtain. But if you fast forward,

812
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:06.079
Kristen to your eightieth birthday, picture who's there? Picture of

813
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.000
the music that's playing? Maybe it's our friend, But can

814
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.639
you tell me what people are saying, what you want

815
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:15.559
people to say, what you want your legacy to be

816
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.599
at your eightieth birthday?

817
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:23.119
I would want individuals to say that I saw them,

818
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:28.719
that I had the ability to perceive perceive them, and

819
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:33.199
I see who they are in their authenticity and their beauty,

820
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:38.159
and that in my seeing them, they were validated within.

821
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.039
I would want them to say that I inspire them

822
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.719
to be themselves, to be themselves, to be authentic, to

823
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.280
be real, that you don't have to be perfect to

824
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:54.119
live a beautiful, complicated, messy, gorgeous, textured life. That you

825
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.599
can be yourself and be creative, and you can have

826
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:02.000
scars and have resilience, and you can have trophies and

827
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:07.480
have bad moments too. It all comes down to recognizing

828
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:12.960
that the human experience is not without infinite ingredients, chapters

829
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.440
and stories and traveling in that space. If you find

830
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.000
people that you're surrounded by that can see you, connect

831
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.280
with you, they're authentic, they support you on your journey,

832
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.119
they're empathic and loyal than you found yourself your true tribe.

833
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.239
And if I'm surrounded by my true tribe and they

834
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.280
feel that I've shaped their life in a way that

835
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:38.320
made them more of themselves, then I have done my

836
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.000
work because I feel that there's nothing more beautiful than

837
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.639
a person being themselves there's nothing more fulfilling to me

838
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.519
personally than seeing somebody be themselves. I don't care how

839
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.920
messy they are. I don't care their errors are their mistakes.

840
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:57.320
If they're truly being themselves, and then I think that's

841
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.119
one of the most beautiful things a person can be.

842
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.360
It's one of the most power powerful things on the

843
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:03.559
quantum field a person can be.

844
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:09.599
So well. I asked that question because Dave Hollis, who

845
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.840
tragically passed away a couple of years ago, used to

846
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.199
talk about how he wanted to get to his eightieth

847
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.679
birthday and look around the room, and he used to

848
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:24.000
reflect on it frequently, and he didn't make it. So

849
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.000
I asked that question because I don't think we often

850
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.960
take the time to recognize in the moment enough and

851
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.800
say in the moment enough to our even like to

852
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:38.840
ourselves obviously, and to our people, to the people that

853
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.320
we care about that like, they don't have to be

854
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:46.039
gone for us to say the thing, right. So I

855
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:47.960
think that that that's why I asked the question, and

856
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.239
that's why I want to take this chance to say

857
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:53.320
that you know, for what it's worth, my friend, you

858
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.079
have done that for me in spades in the course

859
00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:58.480
of time. You know, we've known each other for a

860
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.880
couple of years, and you've made me feel scene. You

861
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.639
have inspired me to step fully into myself and to

862
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.840
recognize that who I am is enough on its own,

863
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.440
and to kind of take back a sense of power

864
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.000
and confidence. So I you know, I had the first

865
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:17.599
group of guests that I've had on this show have

866
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.400
been so special to me because of them, because people,

867
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.000
They've all played different roles in where I've how I've

868
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:26.519
gotten to where I am today. And my friend Emily

869
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.480
said it very well the other day where she said

870
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.639
that we are mosaic of the people that we love,

871
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.159
and that is so true for me. But that is

872
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.679
something that, yeah, I know it's a good one. That

873
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.360
is something that I feel so strongly about. And I'm

874
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:44.639
so grateful for you and how you've done all of

875
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:46.719
the things you just said that you want people to

876
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.239
say about you on your idioth birthday. I'm taking this

877
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.199
chance right now to say it to you now because

878
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.119
I appreciate you, I'm grateful for you, and I want

879
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.159
one to ask you one more, very very important question,

880
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:02.199
which is this, If you had a megaphone and people

881
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.360
were strongly encouraged to listen to you for thirty seconds

882
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.800
or sixty seconds or two minutes, or however long you

883
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.159
want to go. What would your message be to them?

884
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:17.039
I would say I would say, be kind, be kind,

885
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:21.000
and in a real way behave it, think it, feel it.

886
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.480
The world right now is going through so much change

887
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:28.559
and so many things, and it's easy to be kind,

888
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.960
and it feels good to be kind, and it's healthy

889
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:33.639
to be kind, and it's resilient to be kind. But

890
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:37.159
to be kind because most people are more sensitive than

891
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.480
anyone ever realizes, and most individuals are going through something

892
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.199
that most people have no idea about, and kindness is

893
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:49.440
really what anchors I think life. It really anchers life.

894
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:50.639
So be kind.

895
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.599
I keep thinking that my guests aren't going to ever

896
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:56.360
top the last guests with their answer to that question,

897
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.599
and somehow it keeps happening because that's a good one

898
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.840
and so well said. I really appreciate you, Kristen. Is

899
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.119
there anything that I didn't ask you that you would

900
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:05.719
want to share?

901
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.239
No, I just want to send gratitude back to you.

902
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.360
You just are such an amazing professional and you inspire

903
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.440
me and everything that you do and your program and

904
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:18.639
everything that I've learned from you. You're just a rock

905
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:23.199
star and it's one of the most inspiring exchanges I've had.

906
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.679
So thank you for your time and your energy and

907
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.800
your attention to our conversation. TI. You are near and

908
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.199
dear to my heart and I am grateful for you.

909
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.239
So thank you. Thank you so much, Kristin, and we

910
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.159
will see you guys next time on Quick Before You Forget.

911
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.639
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912
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.960
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913
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.039
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914
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.079
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