May 11, 2026

Believe in Yourself: How to Overcome Self-Doubt and Find Purpose in Life with Brant Johnson

Believe in Yourself: How to Overcome Self-Doubt and Find Purpose in Life with Brant Johnson

What happens when a near-fatal crash forces you to confront how little time is truly guaranteed? In this deeply emotional episode of Quick Before You Forget, Ty sits down with marketing strategist and community builder Brant Johnson for a...

What happens when a near-fatal crash forces you to confront how little time is truly guaranteed?

In this deeply emotional episode of Quick Before You Forget, Ty sits down with marketing strategist and community builder Brant Johnson for a conversation about resilience, grief, self-belief, loneliness, purpose, and the courage to chase your dreams before it’s too late.

Brant shares the life-changing lessons he learned after surviving a devastating car accident on black ice, losing his father at a young age, navigating identity and mental health struggles, and building a $100,000 “Resilience Arch” at just 17 years old.

Together, Ty and Brant explore the power of connection, overcoming doubt, and why statistically, luck finds the people who keep trying. If you’ve ever felt behind, uncertain, burned out, isolated, or afraid to begin, this conversation is your reminder that your story still matters and your dreams are still worth pursuing.

Meaningful Moments

00:00 — “If you keep trying, luck will find you”
01:00 — Losing his father at age 10
04:30 — The Easter egg story that shaped his life
07:15 — Why connection changes everything
08:15 — Mental health, loneliness, and learning to face himself
10:00 — Realizing he was gay inside a conservative religious environment
12:00 — The friend who helped save his life
13:00 — The treehouse story
15:00 — Surviving a near-fatal crash on black ice
18:00 — “Life is not a guaranteed gift”
19:00 — The Broadway musical that transformed his perspective
23:00 — “The dog you really gotta dread is the one that’s in your head”
25:00 — How to keep moving forward even when doubt wins
27:00 — Loneliness, technology, and the connection crisis
29:00 — The story behind the “Resilience Arch”
37:00 — A conversation with a struggling student that changed him forever
41:00 — What resilience actually means
42:00 — “You just have to keep going until you meet luck”
44:00 — It’s never too late to start over
46:00 — Quick Before You Forget: What matters most right now?
47:00 — Final reminder: Believe in yourself

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Statistically, if you keep trying, luck will find you. So

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if you stop trying, luck cannot find you to make

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that thing happen. But if you keep trying one day,

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statistically it will happen. And so you just have to

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keep going until you meet luck.

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Hello, and welcome to Quick before you forget Brent, Hello,

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how are you?

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Hello?

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Ty?

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I am that a bulis. How are you well?

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I am honored to be joined by you today, everybody.

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For those that don't know, this is Brent Johnson, a

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marketing strategist, community builder, and someone who knows firsthand how

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fragile and powerful life can be. At twenty six, he

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survived a near fatal car crash on Black Ice that

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changed how he views time, purpose, and urgency. And long

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before that, at just seventeen, he designed and helped raise

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one hundred thousand dollars to build what now stands as

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the Resilience Arch at his high school, proof that impossible

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things sometimes just need someone willing to start brand. I'm

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so happy you're here, Thanks Stott, It's.

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So good to be here. That was such a kind introduction.

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The thank you well. I think that the most important

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tool that we have is our story and your story

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is fascinating to me because you've been through a lot

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and at the age that you're at. So I want

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to walk through past, present, and future with you and

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look through especially the moments of strength and struggle and

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how they lead to finding purpose. Let's start things off

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with a childhood memory that shaped who you are today.

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Oh well, well, that one's We're getting right into the

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thick of it already, aren't. We don't all of our

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childhood memories to shape us so holistically. So I think

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one of the biggest ones, and it is a sad one,

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if that's okay, that I can share, but it has

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shaped my life more than probably any other experience. So,

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my dad had cancer when I was young and passed

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away when I was ten, and so that I'm the

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youngest boy, I have two older sisters, a mom, and

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now I don't have a dad. And it was one

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of the most difficult, obviously experiences you can have. But

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having someone pass away when you're young versus when you're

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old that close, she was a very different experience, you know.

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So I didn't quite understand what was happening entirely, but

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I obviously I knew I wouldn't see my dad like again,

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like like things were going to change. One of the

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biggest moments I think that really shaped who I was.

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I was a pretty brady kid, like a very brady kid,

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very entitled, you know, the youngest chyld syndrome kind of deal,

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and my poor sisters had to put up with so much.

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And so when my dad passed away, I wanted to

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speak at his funeral, actually, and so I wrote a

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talk and went up to the podium when it was

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at my like local church house, and it could fit

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a ton of people, like maybe nine hundred or something

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people with it extended and it was just completely filled

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to even the stage. My dad was a teacher and

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a coach, like someone very involved in my small community

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of vernal, Utah, And I remember looking out at all

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those people and as a ten year old kid, being like, wowy,

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this is insane, Like my dad was popular. That's not

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what I directly thought, but like a lot of people

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looked my dad. I guess the adage you hear of

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like you one person can change a lot of lives,

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like it was true, and it really changed my perspective

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on I have the ability to impact where I live

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or where I am. And so that started quite quite

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young in my life and hopefully changed a little bit

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out of the brady face into more of the like

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how can I participate in my community like my dad

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did and make a difference.

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I'm so sorry for your loss at such a young age.

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That was very difficult, And I'm wondering what did you say? Like,

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how how did the speech go?

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Uh? Speech? I think, well, I have it on my

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mom's computer somewhere I probably can find. But I remember

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I talked about my dad. When I was we would

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go down to Farn that's where his family's from every Easter,

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and we would roll eggs. Is that something people still

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did today? They boil eggs and they die eggs?

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We'd roll them down a mountain.

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Is that the rolling down the mountain part is new

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to me? But tell me more about it.

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roll them down a mountain. No idea where that comes from.

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to try this Easter.

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those people? Turn them into devil? Leggs, and so that's

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like a much more useful experience for those eggs.

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That's but far less fun.

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we would take our eggs and we would throw them

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down a hill. We'd roll them down a hill. And

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so in Farren when we were there with like his

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cousins and stuff, we were somewhere deep in the mountains

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and it started to rain and I we like hit

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under like a little bit of like an overhanging like

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a ledge, but there was like a deep drop off,

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like there was like practically like a sinkhole, Like in

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my mind it's a sink, but it's this huge drop

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off that slants down and then all of a sudden,

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just off the cliff. So I'm on one side of

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the overhang with people I really don't know. I'm like

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six five, and then my dad is over on this

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side with my family. So I'm like, well, I'm not

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gonna go be by random people. I'm gonna go be

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by my my parents. So I start walking across in

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front and I slip and I start to fall into

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this overhang, I mean into this drop off, which crazy,

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like very movie oriented, and I remember just like trying

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to like grab onto anything I possibly can, and my

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dad comes down and somehow like is able to get

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to me before I kind of fall off and he

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grabs me and pulls me back up. Like very scary

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experience but real verified by my mother, like actually happened.

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And so I talked about this in my talk at

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my dad's funeral and just talked about how like my

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dad was always there for me and has always been

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there for other people in his life, and it doesn't

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matter the risks that he was going to have to

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face to be there for others. My dad was an

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incredible person and still is still. I still get messages

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from people here and there about how much my dad

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had impacted somebody when they were in school, and uh,

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it's it's a it's a very odd experience, I guess

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to like it's kind of like a ghost coming to

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talk to you, but it's really wonderful and like just

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to know that my dad really was such a great person,

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you know.

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Well, impact comes through in the most powerful ways of connection.

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Like you you it sounds like your dad had the

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gift of connection to a lot of people who kind

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of he lives on through those through those people, What

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is a relationship or a connection that you've had that

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who you've become.

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So many Obviously, I would say probably my relationship with

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myself is probably the biggest one. And then I would

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say a relationship with my sister also has been like huge.

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And I have one friend who like pretty much saved

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my life as well in a very different way. So

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I can quickly talk about, like how all three of

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those kind of coincide. So when my mom was getting remarried,

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it was really difficult for me. I was I had

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undiagnosed oppression and I'm diagnosed ADHD and anxiety. Probably all

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the anxiety came from the ADHD, and it was just

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really hard to be on my own. So I'm the youngest,

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and then it's six years gap, and then it's nine years,

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so it's like I was practically at home all by

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myself largely through my teenage years. When my mom was

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getting remarried when I was thirteen, that was a really

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hard experience for me. And my sister Jade was right

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in her last year of living at home, and we

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spend a lot of time together and we got really

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close and she kind of taught me how like meaningful,

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like truly family can be because I don't have a

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lot of extended family, like hardly any at all that

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are not my age. I'm the eldest grandson on one side,

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I'm the youngest on another. So like there's I've just

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been like in this weird gap my whole life just

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and then there's just space, and then there's other people.

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So I was like, wow, like this is so nice

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to have someone who really cares and who really gets it.

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So my sister Jade, she's always been there for me

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ever since that point. We used to hate each other

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as children, hate each other as kids, and she's still

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like my biggest supporter, similar to my mom. And then

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my relationship with myself, I would say is probably my

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most important relationship because no matter what, at the end

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of the day, you're going to be the only thing

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that holds you back, or you're going to be the

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only thing that gets you to actually do what you

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want to do. People can encourage and be huge parts

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of that, but they will never be able to do

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the things that you need to do for yourself. The

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people just cannot. It's not designed that way. And so

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I like when I when I was in college, I

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realized I was gay, and that was a huge turning

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point for me. Honestly, I did not realize that until

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I was twenty three. People told me I was my

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whole life, and I was like, I'm not. I'm probably

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somewhere in the middle, and so I was enough to deflect.

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But that was a huge, huge realization and very scary.

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I grew up in a very conservative religion. I grew

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up Latter day Saint Mormon, and I was serving. I

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was had roles in church that were very high up

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in that consideration. At that time, I was at a

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church school. I like my whole life revolved around my church,

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and also like if I was good and obedient, I

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would be able to see my dad who passed away again, right,

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So like a lot was leaning on me being a

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good boy. And so when I realized this, which is

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contrary to what my religion teaches me, I had a

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really hard time being like, well, what am I going

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to do? And it brought me to some like really

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seriously bad spots because I just didn't think there was

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a spot for me. Facing like the realization that I

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had in the environment that I was with that that

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I was. In coming to terms with that on your

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own is probably is a lot harder, I think than

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coming to terms with it for somebody else, because we

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don't live our life with a lot of other Like

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we don't constantly live twenty four to seven with somebody else,

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and so it's like we'll see our friends, but like sure,

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like go and have this fun sport or go and

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do this fun thing, like you can go live however

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you want, Like you're not me, it's it's and so

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it doesn't really like affect as many other people as

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you would think it does. But for me, like it

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was a huge deal, and being honest with myself was

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like a huge, a huge feat onto itself. And so

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I just didn't think there was like a solid place.

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I didn't think I was going to be able to

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manage this. How am I going to be able to

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do this? So my friend Ashley Rink, and she's a nurse,

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she like was like Brant, if I was your nurse,

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I would take you to the hospital because like you're

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not in a good spot. And I was like, no,

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I'm not going to the hospital, like I'm not weak,

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not in a good spot, and so it took us

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like a couple of hours, but we finally got there.

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And like, if it wasn't for her, like I don't

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know where I would be, I would at least have

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struggled for a lot longer. And uh, like friends and

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people are crucial in your life. We're biologically built for that.

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We're built to be around people, and so I'm grateful

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for everybody who's impact in my life. There are so

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many small instances, so many big instances that happened when

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I was young around Kimue and individuals. If I can

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share another one, sorry.

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Of course, no, don't apologize.

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This is just such a cool one that's not centered

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around me. So my my dream was to have a

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tree house growing up, Like I just wanted a treehouse.

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I don't know where it came from, probably all the

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Disney Channel TV shows I watched as a kid, but

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like I really wanted one. And so when we were

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my parents were building their new home. They my dad

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was like, we'll build a treehouse, which was pretty much

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a clubhouse on Steltz. It was a clubhouse in Steltz,

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and so we put up the pillars, and my dad

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got really sick again. So he had had cancer once before,

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beat it and got it again, and this time it

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was terminal and he wasn't going to make it. And

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so people in my community, people in my church knew

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how much I my dad wanted to build this treehouse

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for me, but was not going to be able to

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do it, and so all like thirty or something people

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got together and throughout like the next two months or

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something built like the most incredible dream treehouse I could

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have ever helped for my life. And it was just

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a really great example of how people can come together

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and help make like dreams come true and help people out.

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And I like, every time I go home, I see

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that treehouse and it reminds me, oh my gosh, Like

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if it wasn't for incredible people who cared, they don't.

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They didn't owe me anything. They also didn't own my

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dad anything. He wasn't going to be around for more

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than four months. Like they didn't have to do any

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of this, but they did. And it really has changed

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my perspective on just how important people are in your.

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Life, including yourself. You know, you did shine the spotlight

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on some other people too, but I like that you

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said that your relationship with yourself has been important and valuable,

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because I think people underestimate that, and it makes me

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curious to know how, you know, walk us through your

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accident and tell us through walk us through what happened,

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first of all, but then how did your relationship with

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yourself evolve and change after that accident.

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So I was driving back from Christmas like two years

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a year ago now in twenty twenty five hour right

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before twenty twenty five, and can I live in Vernal,

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like my family's in Vernal. I live in like Utah County,

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and so it's like a three hour drive, right. I've

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driven this like more than I've done anything probably in

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my life, and which is sad and saying something. But

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like I was going home and it was late at night.

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It was like eleven o'clock, like I had driven late before,

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and the roads weren't incredibly bad in my opinion, there

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was snow, and so I was coming upon this turn

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in the middle of nowhere and there was just a

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it's like a whole slew of black guys. Now we've

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all fish tailed, and You're like, stay calm, I got this.

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This is normal winter experience. Right, no one's like coming

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my way. I should be okay. So I'm like trying

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to get my bearings underneath me, but for some reason

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I just cannot, and then the front starts going, and

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once that happens, it's it's really difficult. And so I

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am I'm only going like thirty five around this corner,

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like I'm not going very fast. I think this limit

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it's like fifty five, but I jettison slide off the

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side completely on into like a mountain and then straightforward

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into a bridge, which is if anybody knows, I kind

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of pop. I'm always like, yeah, I crashed my car

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into a bridge. It's so I kind of pop with me.

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So I luckily was okay, like the obviously the airbag

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supplied and everything and got some like air bag rash,

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but it was just like technology is awesome, Like I

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was completely fine, but I could have not been, Like

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if that pillar wasn't there, I would have crashed my

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car off off a cliff and it could have been

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really really bad. It still was, obviously, but I remember

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pretty much in that moment being like I'm twenty six.

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I life is not a guaranteed gift, like it truly

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isn't and I should know that, Like I should know that,

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and I do. With my dad passing away, like it's

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not a guaranteed gift, But I thought I had time,

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Like I thought my dad like he died in his forties.

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So I'm like, I at least I have tell myies, right,

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like everybody has to tell their forties. Like that's where

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my brain kind of was. I was like, no, like

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I I could have gone any point. And so it

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took a long time for the toe to get there.

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It took a long time for the police to get

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there and the ambulance to get there, about an hour

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for the ambulance, like an hour and a half for

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the police, two hours for my parents to come pick

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me up, and then like three hours for the tow.

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So like I had a lot of time to contemplate,

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and some people stopped and talked, but like there was nothing,

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like I could they could do. And I think in

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that moment, I really was like I've wanted to do

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some things in my life and I have delayed it

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because it's like it's not the right time. I need

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to be more prepared. But I'm like, dude, like I

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could have gone and I would have never been able

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to say I did the things that I wanted to

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do in my life. And so it was a really

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good wake up call for me. I guess I gotta

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start chasing my dreams now. And I wouldn't say I

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never did, but I would say that I as the

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dreams get bigger, you start getting a little bit more insecure,

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or at least I do like, oh gosh, like this

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is kind of crazy, Like am I capable of this?

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Like this isn't just like joining an inter mirror sports team,

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like this is like big deal stuff. And so yeah,

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it was a really great wait here call for me.

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But there's a there's a show on Broadway called Hadestown,

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which is probably the best show ever. But I was

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listening to it about a week after my crash, and

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it's a story. Are you familiar with it.

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Ty, tell me a little bit more about it.

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Let me change your life. It is just the best

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show for anybody who is a dreamer, anybody who's a dreamer.

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So it's this like a poem based on Greek mythology,

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and it's about Hades and his wife Persephony, and the

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main characters Orpheus, who's an artist. He's he writes music

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and his love interest, you're Ridicy, who's this poor girl

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who is cold and doesn't have food and is just struggling.

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And so the symbolism of the show is what when

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I learned about this, it really hit me. I was like,

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oh wow, like I get it now, I get it.

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So Orpheus represents like the artists, the visionary, the activists,

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the young politician, the person who wants to make change.

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Your Ridicy represents the people who want a good life that,

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like the Orpheuses, are fighting for that. Like they it's cold,

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there's no food, like I'm struggling. I'm starving, not not

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for any lack of trying, just they call it the

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winds of It's like the economy is just bad right now,

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like there's nothing they can do. It just sucks, and

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they're hoping someone can change that. And those are the

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the Orpheuses. What happens is he can bring back Spring,

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which Persephone. When she's above grounds, not with Hades, it's

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springtime and everybody has an abundance and it's lovely and wonderful.

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But when she's brought back down to Hadestown, to hell,

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she Spring goes away and everything dries up and it's difficult,

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but she stays longer and longer and longer in Hades town.

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Hades doesn't let her go as much. So, like, the

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times get harder and they get tougher, and I think

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we can fill that in our economy. We're like, it's

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just so, why doesn't a dollar go as far? You know?

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We're like, or why can't I find a better job?

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Or why am I so tired all the time? Like

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this is not how it always felt? And so it

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kind of like summers are shorter and the good times

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are shorter, and so Orpheus has the special gift and

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he's like, I can bring I think I can bring

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back spring. I'm writing this song, but it's not ready yet.

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I don't it's not ready yet. And his love interest

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is like, you need to do this, like this is crucial,

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like don't give up. So he's like, okay, I will

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do this, and so he focuses on writing this song,

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and in that time frame, you're ready to see his

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love interest can't get his attention. He's just too zoned in,

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and she's like, I'm so hungry. I have to sell

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my soul to Hades to get food, and more so,

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she sells her soul. When Orpheus is done with writing

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the song, he realizes that she's now in Hades town

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and goes down to try and save her, and in

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a way like does this, he convinces Hades that he

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will let him and her go, but only if they

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walk back, and he never looks back to see if

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she's following him or not. And in that experience he

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is super super doubtful. He's like, why would she follow me?

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Why would anybody follow me? Like I don't know what

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I'm doing, Like I've never done this before. Why would

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the most powerful person in the universe allow me to

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do this? Like it doesn't make any sense? And so

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he doubts quite a lot. And there's a line from

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the song that goes, the meanest dog you'll ever meet,

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it ain't the hound dog in the street who tears

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some who snares his teeth and tears some skin. Brother,

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that's the worst of him. The dog you've really got

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a dread is the one that's in your head. It's

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him who's haling drivesman man and a mind too their undoing.

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So it's like we our own doubt is the worst

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possible thing we can face. And so well Orpheus right

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when he reaches the door, he's like, he looks back

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and she's there this whole time, and she's down. It

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has to be taken down. It's a tragedy. It's a

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sad story. And Hermes is the narrative through the whole thing,

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and he's like, the reason we tell this story is

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in hopes that one day it'll be different, that someday

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an orpheus like you Tai will not doubt themselves and

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continue on to the entire end for the greater good

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of people. And so I had had this wreck, and

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I had had this I was just listening to this

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musical and I was like, I really need to make

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sure that I keep my doub in check. It's very hard,

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but like, doubt will keep me back from living the

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life that I want. That isn't a gift and a

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privilege to have that I am not entitled to. And

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so it's been a year of overcoming a lot of

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doubt and and but it's been that wreck was a

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very transformal, trans transformational and pivotabal moment for me to

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kind of start that journey.

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It's not easy to work through doubt, like it's it's

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very very difficult, particularly on the tales of something that

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you know physically and mentally and everything kind of could

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have taken you out really. So you know, I was

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thinking as you were talking a little bit about Jay Shetty.

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He had a line about how the biggest mistake we

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make as humans is thinking we have more time. And

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you know, this is what I hear and heard through

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your story there and I'm I'm it leads me to wonder,

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what is your advice for for people that do have

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that doubt and how do they how do they move forward? Like,

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how do they work? How do you how did you

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work through the last year of doubt?

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I think doubts doubt as normal. Like I think we

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feel a lot of shame when we doubt because we

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don't see a lot of other people doubting, you know,

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and so we're like, oh, well, this obviously shows that

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I'm not capable of doing this. No, doubt is incredibly normal,

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and so just because it is there doesn't mean you

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should need to listen to it. I I still struggle

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with doubt, but no, no do you like and I do.

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A lot every single day, absolutely every day, Yeah.

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Every day, And so it's like how do I work

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through that? Well, it really depends, Like some days doubt

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kind of does win and and that sucks and it

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and it has one multiple times for me. But it's

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the do I keep going like through that that's really

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I think what matters the most. So like I have

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my own things that make that work for me. I

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got listened to Hadestown that actually does help me be

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Like I can't like too many people have doubted themselves

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00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.359
who could have change the world, and I can't do that.

462
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.279
I can't do that to myself. I can't do that too.

463
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:11.079
If there's anybody who would use what I'm building or

464
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.319
be helped by, like I'm letting them down. And in

465
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:18.880
a very literal sense, like I'm working on connection technology

466
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.559
because isolation is just on the rise. It's going to

467
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.839
get worse with AI, and our generation has suffered the

468
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:29.000
most through all of that. We were given these devices

469
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:31.920
that weren't inherently evil when that we were given them,

470
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:34.960
and then under our noses they were made addictive. And

471
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.480
now we're having to face this reality of living our

472
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:42.359
whole lives on this device that has our not not

473
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.559
the right interest in mind. For us, we're very isolated.

474
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.359
COVID didn't help us when we were in our most

475
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.759
transformed of networking connection type years, and so my generation

476
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.720
really suffers, and I'm like, how can I better help that? Right?

477
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.119
And so I think of it sometimes very literally that

478
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.960
I'm like, if I give up, like it's like some eurritices,

479
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.599
they will they will die. Like loneliness takes people's lives,

480
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.359
and with all the technology we have today, we should

481
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.799
not have people who are lonely. We can Depression is real, like,

482
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.480
and that's a very real thing, but there's so much

483
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.319
loneliness that is created through how our society is built today,

484
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:28.079
and that can be fixed. I genuinely believe isolation is

485
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.640
not a permanent thing. It can be fixed with all

486
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:35.039
the things that we have today, right, some like from

487
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.079
a very literal sense, and like people's lives, Matt, like,

488
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.240
people's lives are on the line for what I do.

489
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.920
Sometimes it's not that serious and that's good and that's

490
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.160
healthier probably, But I think it just comes down to

491
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.400
like processing, taking that time, why are you doubting what's

492
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.200
going on? Like finding a friend who really believes in

493
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.440
what you do. I know that's not as easy as

494
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.799
it sounds, but like, if you have that in your

495
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.240
life or someone who can hand be that for you,

496
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.240
like that can make a huge, huge difference. So when

497
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.720
you doubt, you can turn to somebody else like your

498
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.759
own you're Riticee, who's like you have to finish the song,

499
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.759
like this is so important to you to for us,

500
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.799
you have to keep working. So there's a lot of

501
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.519
mechanisms I think need to be deployed, and they probably

502
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.119
all need to be deployed because that is incredibly powerful.

503
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.480
I just think it's really cool that you mentioned how

504
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.839
you lean into music as a source of getting through

505
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.160
and you you talked about resilience. You talked about how

506
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.240
you need to decide every single day to get up

507
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.920
and keep going and keep trying. And you know your

508
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:44.000
your resilience ties back into your project in high school,

509
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:46.000
the art you made like the.

510
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:50.039
Tie in Girl.

511
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.079
Thank you well tell me about it because everybody does

512
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.359
not know, but you did something really cool when you

513
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.000
were seventeen that ties exactly right back to resilience.

514
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.920
Yeah, it's true, and honestly this does help me make

515
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:05.799
make me be like I can't give up because I

516
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.480
built this whole thing all tied around resilience, and I'm like,

517
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:10.799
it's a good check. It keeps me good, it keeps me,

518
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.000
keeps me humble. I guess. So when I was in

519
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.839
high school, I was the zum Muddy president and like

520
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:20.640
YadA YadA YadA, and so I was like, we had

521
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:24.480
this old archway from the fifties that said Home of

522
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.440
the Utes. Our mascot was the Utes with permission from

523
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:32.400
the tribe, luckily, and so there was this entrance way

524
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.079
from where we drove under it said Home the Utes.

525
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:36.680
It was taken down because they widened the road, but

526
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.799
it was like iconic had been there forever and it

527
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.480
was like, it's homecoming. We should put that back up.

528
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:46.440
So me and the principal, luckily were like, she knew

529
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.000
my dad, she knew my mom, Like we had been

530
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.440
friends for eight years and so we had a good relationship.

531
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.440
I say, principal wild, what do you think about putting

532
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.359
this back up? She's like, sure, let's go look at it.

533
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.079
So I did, took some pictures, took over to the

534
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.519
wealthy class and I was like, so what about we

535
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.000
put this beca And he's like, no, you're gonna have

536
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.920
to extend it a little bit, like it's gonna look

537
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:06.359
a little weird. How about just make a new one,

538
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.359
and he means like, literally, just make a new one

539
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.160
that looks exactly like that. I hated how it looked. Actually,

540
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:13.640
I thought it was horrific. It was so gaudy. It

541
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:17.160
was just like looked looked like something made on paint

542
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.680
in two thousand and one. It was so bad. But

543
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.960
I was like, no, you can't remake like the iconic tradition,

544
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.599
like this is this is the arch. But I was

545
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.160
in debate class and I was sitting there and I

546
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:31.359
was just thinking about it. I was like, it really

547
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.079
doesn't match. I honestly don't like it. The design, Like

548
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.640
it doesn't fit. It's like, what if we designed a

549
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.759
brand new one? So I like sketched up its design,

550
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.079
went home, put it on graph paper, colored it in

551
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.039
literally so so unimpressive, brought it into the principle. The

552
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.880
next morning, was like, principle wild, what if we built

553
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.839
this instead? He's like, uh, if you can find the

554
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.720
funding for it, go for it, which I think was

555
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.359
her being like, yeah, it's never gonna happen, but was

556
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.799
enough for my seventeen year old brain to be like, oh, okay,

557
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.279
it's a go. We got this. So I started hold on.

558
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.200
I said, I wouldn't interrupt you, but she said it

559
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.720
was basically impossible, right, Like She's like, no, that's impossible,

560
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.519
but here we believe that impossible is just a big

561
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.160
word thrown around by small people. So she what she

562
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.839
said and what you interpreted were two different things, and

563
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.480
you took that impossible thing and made it happen. So

564
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.160
continue your story, but I just wanted to point out

565
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:29.640
that you charged forward when she kind of was like, yeah, good,

566
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:30.319
good luck.

567
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.400
Right, And there's something beautiful about being like young and dumb,

568
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.640
and so that was me, young and dumb and thought

569
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.559
I could do anything, which honestly, you can if you

570
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:49.200
believe it, you know. So I started sharing about it

571
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.039
on Facebook and it got a lot of traction, and

572
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.160
I was like, I need tons of donations for this.

573
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:59.799
So I would call different businesses and I was like, hey,

574
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.119
would you donate to this? And one of the biggest

575
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.720
businesses in the town was like, no, stuff like this

576
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.440
comes to us all the time and it never happens,

577
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.039
so we're not going to donate to it. And I

578
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:15.079
was like, I have to make this happen, Like, I

579
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:18.799
just have to make this happen because it's embarrassing. Everybody

580
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:22.000
already knows I'm trying to build this, and then they're like,

581
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.839
this won't happen. I'm like, Okay, I have to make

582
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:27.759
it happen or I'm just gonna be embarrassed. Uh So

583
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:29.759
I keep working on it and working on it, working

584
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.480
on it, and get donations and get people to be

585
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.119
like willing to donate the electrical like it's gonna have

586
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.720
lights on it. It's it's three dimensional. It's so big

587
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.759
you can you can widen the road again and it's

588
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:44.799
not gonna be a problem. It's so big that like

589
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.640
any type of construction equipment could go under it. It's

590
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.000
so designed so well that you can dismantle it and

591
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.960
then put it up wherever you are. Again. The last

592
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.039
one you had to like weld it like off and

593
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.400
break it. This is like pieces. You can change the

594
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.599
school's name, you can do whatever you want, and this

595
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.359
art will last forever and ever and ever. It's not climbable, hopefully,

596
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:11.719
it's got outlets in it. Like it's so it has

597
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:16.280
so many dualities, right, because it's gonna last forever, right,

598
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.159
that's the hope. So I'm working on this and it

599
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.239
gets halted because they're gonna put in a roundabout that.

600
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.159
And I go on a mission, and I hope that

601
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.280
someone else would just like continue it on. I've got

602
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.119
a lot of the donations. I need someone just to

603
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.880
head it up. No one did, even with me begging

604
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.599
so many people. So I come home for my two

605
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:43.320
year like church service and come back and I started

606
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.199
up again because I'm like, people have donated this, they're

607
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.719
expecting this to be done. And I remember the day

608
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:53.079
we excavated for the pillars was like such I was,

609
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:54.960
I was there, I watched it happen. I was like,

610
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.719
this isn't a dream anymore, Like this is really occurring.

611
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.480
It took three years to get to this point, but

612
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:08.280
like it's actually happening. And it took another year to

613
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.519
put it up because there's a lot of welding and

614
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:13.280
painting that goes into it. I had put in a

615
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.639
different transformer and like so much stuff. But we finally

616
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:21.840
lifted it up and it was took the whole community,

617
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.960
took so many people to donate, took so many people's

618
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:27.679
skills and talents, and what was really cool is I

619
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:29.960
didn't have any of those talents. I didn't have any

620
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:35.159
of that money like that that wasn't that was none

621
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.960
of nothing from me. But I had a hope and

622
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.119
a vision and I could help orchestrate it, and I did,

623
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.119
and I orchestrated at all and I designed it, and

624
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.199
so it really showed that, you know, I might not

625
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.960
have every single skill needed to build this, but it's okay.

626
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.280
Like the big things that we have in our life,

627
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.840
the challenges that we have, like aren't going to be

628
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.679
solved by just you, Like, it's going to take a team.

629
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.119
It's going to take a whole community to put on

630
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:05.760
incredible things. And it's you know, I drive by it

631
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.559
when I go home to Vernal and I'm like, it's

632
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.800
just so cool that a young seventeen year old kid

633
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:15.159
like dreamt that this thing was possible. It's sixty three

634
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:21.840
feet wide, twenty seven feet tall. I think, like, it's

635
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.000
just it cost over one hundred thousand dollars and a

636
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:26.960
seventeen year old kid believed that this could happen and

637
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:32.000
it did. So I named it the Resilience Arch because

638
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.039
my community has is in a boom and a bust

639
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.960
economy they're in the oil and gas industry, and so

640
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.760
I'm like this it signifies like this was put up

641
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.199
by my town, like the people in my town who

642
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:48.000
donated to it, who sacrifice for it, and they always

643
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:51.280
do that, they always come together. They're the most incredibly

644
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:56.719
and resilient people ever. And actually there was may share

645
00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:01.320
another story about this sorry hacking so much, I was

646
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.960
thinking like what do I call this? You know, it

647
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.119
wasn't just like call the resilience arts. That didn't just

648
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.960
come to me in a dream. One day, I was like,

649
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.639
what do I call this? Because I feel kind of guilty.

650
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.400
This thing costs one hundred thousand dollars for just a

651
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.599
little piece of metal, Like that seems excessive. Right when

652
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.280
I was the student body person, I had this opportunity.

653
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.760
I was never I never went to class. I was

654
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.800
so bad because I was always talking to students, Like literally,

655
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.519
I would talk to kids in the hallway who were

656
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.440
late or were sloughing or whatever for like two hours

657
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.719
just to be like what's going on. Luckily, my mom

658
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.440
was the secretary there, so she could excuse me from

659
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.960
all the things I missed. But there was this one

660
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.360
time I had dropped off my backpack to my mom's office,

661
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:51.519
and I was going to my second hour and I

662
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:52.920
saw this kid just sitting on a bench and I

663
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:54.320
was like, I'm gonna go talk to him. So I

664
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:55.960
went and sat and I was like, what's up? And

665
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.960
he's like, did not want to talk to me. He's like, yeah,

666
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.599
weird guy who does all the assemblies. I was like, ah,

667
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:05.760
that's that's me. Absolutely, that is who I am. And

668
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.679
so his teacher came out and saw he was with

669
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.079
me and just honestly just let him and I talk.

670
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.760
And I learned from the two hours I was with

671
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.519
him that he's working three jobs. He's pretty much raising

672
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.920
his own sister. He lives in this house where like

673
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.760
drugs are way too common. Uh, he just broke up

674
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.800
with this girlfriend like two weeks ago, Like he was

675
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.320
just not in good space. I had not Ian for

676
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.360
a couple of days, and I just like heard this

677
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:40.239
this poor kid story and like went in knew the

678
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:41.960
lunch that he's got them some lunch. Got into the

679
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.760
counselor's that eventually and turned around. As I was leaving

680
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:48.960
the counselor's office, I was like, how are you to

681
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.280
this kid? And he's like I'm actually not doing very good.

682
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.320
And I was like, there's just so much struggle here

683
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.639
that I just don't know. I'm very lucky to be

684
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.400
in plays and to to be in student council and

685
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.719
to go home and have food, But I was like,

686
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.920
people don't have that all the time. And I realized this,

687
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:08.840
you know, when I was high school and when I

688
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.039
was putting this archway together later in my twenties, I

689
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.519
was like, I felt guilty as I said that I'm

690
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.079
using all this money where there're students who are actually

691
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.639
struggling in this school. So I thought of him, and

692
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.119
I was like, how resilient he is, and how we

693
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.280
don't recognize that type of resilience in society. We're like,

694
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.199
if you have bad grades and if you're not in

695
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.760
any extracurricular activities, then you're dumb. And I'm like, this kid,

696
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.639
he probably he didn't have the best grades, he was

697
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.000
not in any extracurricular activities, but he was working three

698
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:45.400
jobs trying to racism. No, Like, he is just as

699
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:52.480
capable then as I was, probably more, absolutely more capable.

700
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.559
He understood the world way better than I did at

701
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:56.880
that age. And so I was like, I want to

702
00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:01.360
do stuff for like people like Zach, I really want to.

703
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:06.960
I was like, I want to help those people like

704
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.480
advance somewhat in life. So it's like I want to

705
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:11.519
name it after them, the kids who go to school

706
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:16.159
who through the toughest times, and also the community. So

707
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.239
I was able to have a couple extra, like some

708
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.800
extra funds left over from the archway that I turned

709
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:25.239
it into a scholarship and I called it the Resilience

710
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.320
Arch after them and the Resilient Scholarship. So every year

711
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.559
I give a thousand dollars scholarship to a student who's

712
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.519
shown great resilience. It's just resilience, not GPA, not extracurriculars,

713
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.360
just are have you been resilient? And so that's like

714
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.159
a really great way for me to be like, Okay,

715
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.840
I can't not be not resilient because I have to

716
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:48.480
constantly talk about this and award on it, and so

717
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.199
I'm like I have to keep going. So it's actually

718
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.760
kind of nice to have something like that that ties

719
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:56.719
with not giving up in my life because I'm like,

720
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.679
when tough gets hard, I'm like I can't be a hypocrite,

721
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:00.920
so I have to keep going.

722
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.000
Do you think resilience is something we build before we

723
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:05.480
need it.

724
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:11.760
Uh yeah, I think for sure if if you're smart,

725
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.400
like you'll build resilience because or allow that to be.

726
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.920
Built, how do you how do you practice it.

727
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.719
Getting back up? Like not not letting people, not letting

728
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.800
a bad grade or a no for a job, or

729
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.960
or a hundred nos for a job, like but let

730
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.360
them win. You have to be the one who's like,

731
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.679
I'm going to keep giving trying no matter what. I

732
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.519
think you can build it up. I also think it

733
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:41.559
can be applied pretty instantly. I think it's easier if

734
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.320
you're used to being resilient to apply it instantly. But like,

735
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.480
I don't think it's a it's not I don't think

736
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.079
it's a muscle like. It can happen if you want

737
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.840
to be resilient, like it's a it's a mental shift. Largely,

738
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.039
it can be pretty instant. I think one of the

739
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.199
things that helps me be resilient or get back up

740
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:06.840
is like, statistically, if you keep trying, luck will find you.

741
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:11.480
So if you stop trying, luck cannot find you to

742
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.199
make that thing happen. But if you keep trying one day,

743
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:18.760
statistically it will happen. And so you just have to

744
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:25.039
keep going and tell you meet luck, blessings, whatever that is.

745
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.760
You just have to keep going and it will find you.

746
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.760
Like it did when you survived that crash. Yeah, if

747
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.840
seventeen year old you who drew that arch meant twenty

748
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:40.000
six year old you who survived the crash, what would

749
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:40.920
they say to each other?

750
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.079
Well, then have a lot of questions for one another.

751
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:56.000
Seventeen year old me. Well, yeah, seventeen year old me

752
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:58.599
would be fairly proud. He had a lot of goals

753
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:07.000
that old me like accomplished, and so yeah I would.

754
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.639
I'd probably seventeen year old me would be curious about

755
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:11.800
the future, be like, what changed, What are you going

756
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.079
to do now? Twenty seven year old me now? Or

757
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.480
twenty six year old me a carback person. Honestly, I

758
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.000
feel like we were pretty aligned, Like we knew that

759
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.599
our life was short, and then I had forgotten that

760
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.079
in my early twenties. When I was seventeen, I swore

761
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:28.639
I saw I was gonna die. When I was eighteen,

762
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:30.159
I thought I was going to get like one of

763
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:31.920
those corrects right in from the school and be like

764
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:34.960
on the news. So I was like, gotta get everything done.

765
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.079
So I feel like we would actually be pretty aligned,

766
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:37.719
which is funny.

767
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.199
But is it funny? I think it's perfect. Honestly, it

768
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:44.000
makes sense to me.

769
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.480
I think twenty seven year old me has a lot

770
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.440
to learn from twenty six year old and seventeen year

771
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:51.360
old version of me, where it's like very raw and

772
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:56.960
it's like sometimes I get into the mundane, and twenty

773
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.760
seven year old me is like, oh, but like it

774
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:01.840
was very clear for twenty six year old and seventeen

775
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.480
year old me that like this is really important and

776
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.760
to not give up. So I feel like twenty seven

777
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:08.079
year old me has a lot more to learn from

778
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.320
twenty six to twenty and seventeen year old me.

779
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.519
Well, fortunately for everybody here, regardless of their age, there's

780
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.719
a lot to learn from you, regardless of your age.

781
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.719
So if someone today is listening feels like they're too young,

782
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:25.119
they're too not ready, or even like maybe they're too late,

783
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:26.920
what do you want them to remember?

784
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.159
Oh, yeah, you are not too late. Actually, like you

785
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.719
are not too late for sure, Like even people who

786
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:39.000
are in their like sixties or seventies, like do you

787
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.519
you have the amount of stuff that you can accomplish

788
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:45.639
in a year, or like it's insane, and so I'm like,

789
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.719
I actually find it way inspiring when people who are

790
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.000
retired are like, I'm going to start a business or

791
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.599
I'm going to go do something like different, and I'm like,

792
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.440
that is the coolest thing I've ever heard. It's easier

793
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.760
for me because I'm young, Like I don't have a family,

794
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.760
I don't have children, and so it's like very easy

795
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:04.519
for me to be able to do that. And so

796
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:08.039
it's even more respectable when people who have kids, or

797
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.920
who have spouses or have mortgages are like, you know what,

798
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.199
I'm going to believe in myself because I'm going to

799
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.199
I trust myself. I know what I'm capable of. And

800
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.880
so yeah, I think the only I think the only

801
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:24.960
way we can change the world is for more people

802
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:29.480
to believe in themselves. And there's this interesting, fun little

803
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:34.719
book called UH the Federal Bureau of Imagination by Brad Montague.

804
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:36.639
It's a children's book. Ten out of ten everybody should

805
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.440
read it, and it's about how we need to believe

806
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.800
in our own ideas and our talents and our skills.

807
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.920
And so I think it's always worth it to go

808
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.719
after the talents and the skills that you have and

809
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.519
make sure that you can contribute to the world no

810
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:52.159
matter your age.

811
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.880
Look before you forget what matters most to brand right now?

812
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:04.440
Hey, what matters most brand right now? It's definitely people,

813
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:12.719
and it's definitely on growth, Like how can I push

814
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.480
myself to grow? Because this is a pivotal moment for

815
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.599
me and so yeah, people, those are the things that

816
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:24.760
will like that you measure your life by and that

817
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.719
I need to grow. I push myself to make sure

818
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.519
that the person I am and how I show up

819
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:33.119
for my friends is the best version I can be

820
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:33.920
in the future.

821
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:36.920
Well, people is huge to me too, As you know,

822
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.760
connection and relationships is huge for me. And I am

823
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:44.559
so grateful for your time, for your energy, for your stories,

824
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.000
and I want to ask one more thing. If there's

825
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:49.719
anything that I didn't ask you that you wanted to share,

826
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:51.119
this is your time.

827
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.119
Well thanks for letting me share all these things.

828
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.239
You're so welcome.

829
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:05.719
Yeah, I'm like off same, building a tech product to

830
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:10.440
make stronger communities to help connect more people. So keep

831
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.199
an eye out for that. Also, I'm building a podcast

832
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.679
as well called Standing on Business, which is for gen

833
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.000
Z or how to help gen Z. If you're not

834
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:24.079
in that generation, so yeah, just follow along. I'm really

835
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.639
excited to be able to be a part of these

836
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.760
types of things, you know, people oriented things, and but

837
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:35.239
I think that's I think that's it. Just believe in yourself,

838
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.000
Like it's so hard to do. It's so hard to do.

839
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.960
It's so easy to say. But we need more people

840
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.559
to believe in themselves. We absolutely do, and you can

841
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:44.000
as well.

842
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.320
So as easy does hard and hard things make us stronger.

843
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.840
So that's it for us this time. Friends. Can't wait

844
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.159
to see you again next time on Quick Before You Forget.

845
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.920
Ah By, thank you for being here with me today

846
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.880
on Quick Before You Forget. Please like, share and subscribe

847
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:05.480
as that helps the show so much and I really

848
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.480
appreciate it. And I'll see you next time on Quick

849
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:09.280
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