Feb. 16, 2026

Be nice: How to Stop Fighting Too Much (And Fixing Too Little)

Be nice: How to Stop Fighting Too Much (And Fixing Too Little)

What do you do when rejection is constant and life still requires you to keep going? In this episode of Quick Before You Forget, Ty Schmidt welcomes actor Brent Bailey (yes — Kris K / Target Santa but also so many more amazing roles) to talk about...

What do you do when rejection is constant and life still requires you to keep going?

In this episode of Quick Before You Forget, Ty Schmidt welcomes actor Brent Bailey (yes — Kris K / Target Santa but also so many more amazing roles) to talk about reinvention, resilience, and staying grounded.

Brent shares what it was like going from a shy, introverted self described “computer nerd” to building a career in Hollywood, and the mindset shifts that help him handle rejection without letting it define his worth.

You’ll hear practical, real-life lessons on goal-setting, confidence, stepping out of your comfort zone, the role of therapy, and why learning to listen might be one of the most important skills we can rebuild right now.

If you’re tired of taking every “no” personally, this episode will help you breathe, dust off your self-confidence, and keep building anyway.

Connect with Brent: @brentmbailey on Instagram

Jackie Chan video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rRwvSaSsuec

If this episode helped you: please follow, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs the reminder.

Meaningful Moments

00:00 – “You were shy?!” + the audition moment that shows how fear + self-consciousness can stop us

01:02 – Ty’s intro: what Quick Before You Forget is (music, mindset, movement) + welcoming Brent Bailey

02:28 – Childhood roots: kindness, work ethic, and what Brent learned from his parents

03:59 – The “go all-in” lesson: why half-trying protects your ego (but blocks your growth)

05:39 – Setbacks as teachers + why the goalpost always moves

07:34 – Handling rejection: separating identity from career + finances + supportive relationships

09:36 – A specific setback: being “the commercial guy,” losing an agent, and learning to communicate goals

11:38 – Wins: Target Santa/Kris K + working with major names + why people matter most

13:17 – Transition figures & role models: community, coaches, and being a fan as a superpower

17:15 – What Brent would tell his 22-year-old self (and why he wouldn’t change the past)

19:46 – Megaphone message: “Be nice,” drop the extremes, and come back to listening

22:23 – How to become a better listener: ego, curiosity, and stepping outside your perspective

24:56 – Therapy + perspective: validating feelings without letting them swallow your life

27:18 – “Unreal” moments: leaving comfort → moving to LA → sleeping on a friend’s couch

32:38 – Turning pain into purpose: the heartbreak that pivoted his whole life

34:05 – Music + silence: why Brent prefers quiet and “ambient” grounding sounds

39:37 – Legacy question: what he hopes his future child would feel about his life

44:48 – What’s next: upcoming films + why he posts less but lives more

46:53 – Authentic interviews vs scripted answers

47:50 – Comfort food + Benihana joy

48:58 – Ty’s close: asking for connection, reviews, stars, and inviting listeners back

Top takeaways:

• Rejection hurts less when your career isn’t your identity.
• Going “half-in” protects your ego but it also blocks your breakthrough.
• Community + finances + self-awareness = resilience you can replicate.
• Reinvention is often born from discomfort… or heartbreak… and you can still be grateful for the pivot.

Reflection prompt: Where in your life are you “half-trying” so you’ll have an excuse if it doesn’t work… and what would change if you went all-in?

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Well, on, I need to interrupt you. You were shy.

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Oh my gosh.

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Becoming an actor actually changes like who I am at

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as an individual. My first few audition experiences would I

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would like go to the audition. There were multiple where

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I went to the audition and you can back in

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the day, we did it in real life. Sometimes now

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it's just through tape, but you can hear the other

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people doing things like acting. And there was like a

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horror movie I was auditioning for, and you had to

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like peek through a hole and then the monster grabs

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your eye and rip your eyeball out, so then you

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have to like scream on the floor and roll around

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in agony.

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I will feel so like self conscious and I'll just

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feel dumb, and so I left.

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Welcome friends, I am so grateful that you're here today

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with me on Quick Before You Forget, which is a

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personal development podcast about building your unreal life from the

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ground up using music, mindset, and movement to remember who

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you are while becoming who you want to be today.

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I am here, I am honored. I am hyped to

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welcome Brent Bailey, who you may recognize and Know and

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love as Chris k from Target. But there's a lot

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more to the story. Born in Tucson and raised between

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Texas and Arizona, Brent Bailey came to Hollywood with intention,

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armed with a master's in business and a long game

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mindset to go along with it. You've seen him more

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time than you realize, from nearly one hundred and fifty

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commercials for brands like Herts, Clorox, and Shell, to stand

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out roles in film and television, including LBJ, The Idea

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of You, and The Lincoln Lawyer. Brent's here today because

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his career sits at the intersection of creativity, reinvention, and

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staying power, and we're talking about what it really takes

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to evolve, stay grounded, and keep building when the path

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is not linear. Brent, welcome to Quick before you forget,

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Wow, that was an amazing intro.

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Thank you so thank you. I appreciate it. So today

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we're here to talk through your story, past, present and future.

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So first let's go back. What is a childhood memory

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that you have that shaped who you are today?

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that's tough to.

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but my watching my parents and like their relationship and

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how they treated other people, I think shaped me as

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an individual for life. They were just always such good

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people that treated everybody kindly. My dad was an incredibly

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hard worker that started as like a tire tech at

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Discount Tire and then worked.

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So I was just kind of taught from a young

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age that work ethic and.

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Being nice to people is just kind of common sense.

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And so thankfully that carried on.

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hard and he had you know, what lessons did you

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learn from that effort that he put in when you

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were watching him as a say, you were a twelve

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year old boy watching your dad do the hard work.

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learned quickly was that nothing comes easy. If you want something,

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you have to, you know, really go for it.

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Half asked on it, then the chances are you're Brian

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not going to succeed. And I think that's something a

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lot of us do is we don't ever fully commit

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to something, so that way, if you do somehow fail,

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you have an excuse because you can be like, well,

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I didn't I didn't fully try. So I almost think

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we do that as like a built in insurance. But

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then I think the other side of it is just

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seeing what you want. I saw what he wanted. I

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knew he wanted more success. I knew he wanted a

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better life for us, and so I think, you know,

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kind of like the law of attraction, where he like

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visualized where he wanted to be.

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especially when I started acting like I made goals every

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year of like all right, this year, I want to

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try to get a co star and a national commercial,

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and like next year I want to get this, and

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then to go with those goals, then you set up

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your plan. I was like, so I need to take

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acting classes, I need some great hedge scots, I need

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to network and get a great manager an agent. And

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so I think just watching him build his career and

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also watching my mom gave me all the tools that

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I needed to try to, you know, make my own success.

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this thing about goals. We have this this idea and

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that we're working towards something and that's really special. And

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life happens like stuff happens, and their setbacks and their

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struggle on your way to those goals. So, as you've

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been working through what it looks like to do the

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hard work and to set the goals and work toward them,

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what is a setback that you saw as something that

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happened for you rather than to you.

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I mean, I think you.

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in general for everybody, if there's always going to be setbacks.

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something and it just happens easy and nothing goes wrong,

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then congratulations, that's incredible. I almost think that's a bad

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thing because with all the setbacks and with all the failures,

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you learn so much and you grow and evolve, and

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then when you actually get to where you wanted to be,

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or at least in a place where you're getting closer

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to where you want to be, because I feel like

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that goalpost is always moving, I don't I think Matthew

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McConaughey says it in a speech like you never actually

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arrive at your goal and you're done. The goalpost keeps moving.

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starts to become very easy to take it for granted

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and to not really appreciate it as much rather than

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if you have to work hard than when you do

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get there, you're so much more excited. And I think

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for me, there's there's been lots of them. I mean,

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in this business, there's constant rejection. I mean, everybody does

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get to see that. I'm so grateful that I do

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work very often, but for every job that people see

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me on, I probably got fifty no's somewhere else. It's

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a tough town, it's a tough business. It has an

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immense amount of hurdles, and it's basically I've signed up

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for a career with constant rejection and always being told

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like you don't have enough, and you're like, all right, see,

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you just keep pushing forward.

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So part of what I'm talking through on this podcast

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is how to work with your mindset and how to

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train your mind to work through those kinds of things.

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And in the career you're in you said, like, the

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rejection is real, and it happens, and it's just part

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of it. But how do you, like, how do you

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do that? Tell? Like, for for everyday people that don't

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act and aren't necessarily facing that kind of reject on

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a daily basis, we could learn from how resilient somebody

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that does acting and has to work through all that rejection,

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how that resilience comes to life in what you do

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and how you practice that every day. So if you

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had to back up and kind of, you know, thirty

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thousand foot level, tell a friend who you know just

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got rejected and isn't as used to it as you

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might be, what kind of tools do you use in

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your head to work through those those rejections that you're

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at a level where it's just kind of something you

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can work with.

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I mean, I think the harder part of that because

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it's a whole other obstacle.

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But you have to be happy with your life. You

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have to be happy with who you are as a person.

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You have to surround yourself with like friends and family

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or a partner that you really enjoy spending time with.

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And then there's other areas, especially when it comes to acting, finances, like,

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you have to be smart with your finances. When you

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do get that job where you make some money, people

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have a tendency to like up their lifestyle and go

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buy like a fancy car or something that like Listen,

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spending so quickly and you don't sustain that working, now

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you're in this crisis mode of oh my gosh, every

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no seems so much worse because I don't know if

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I'm going to be able to pay my rent this month.

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and business came in handy is I was always really

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smart financially, so that way the pressure of making money

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wasn't as big of a deal. And then I'm also

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just so grateful that I'm happy in life and I'm

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so happy with my girlfriend.

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We have a wonderful dog.

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My parents are amazing, So it makes the nose on

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the career not as terrible because they don't. My career

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doesn't define me. It's just something I really enjoyed doing.

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ego ahead and I think there's enough work to go around,

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and I go Okay, great, I didn't get that, but

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somebody else is so excited because they just got that job,

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and then on the next one it'll be my turn.

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And like we don't always have to win everything, we

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can share. So I think I just make my mentality

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that it's good for somebody else and they're really happy.

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Which makes me happy.

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And that even though you're going to get a hundred no's,

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when you get that one, yes, it's still going to

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feel awesome.

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That is so true and that is such an abundant

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way to think about it, just thinking as it benefits

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other folks and not you know, there's somebody out there

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that's having the best day of their life every single

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day you're having a bad one, and isn't that something

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to be grateful for? Actually? And all through all happens

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through a village too. You said, you know you're you're

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the people that you surround yourself with matter and they

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all play into your story. So thank you for sharing that.

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wonder and I kind of almost want to double click

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there on what is a set Can you walk us

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through a setback that you've had, specifically that you learned

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like a replicable lesson from for people.

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I mean, yeah, it's a great question. Uh.

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I think the hard part with this business too is

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there's so many different avenues you can go. So there

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is like the commercial world, there's you know, TV and film,

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there's theater, there's like.

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Soap operas, like there's there's so many different.

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Routes that you can go that kind of shape your

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career in a different way. And I have been so

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lucky to do both, but I have done so many

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commercials that sometimes people do go, oh, you're You're just

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the commercial guy. And I did have an agent way

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back in the day where I was testing for a

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soap opera, but the money was, unfortunately, and it'd be

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so much less than I was making with doing both

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TV and film and commercial, and so I passed on it.

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see it coming. But that that did kind of just

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teach me that I have to make sure that I

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communicate that like my overall goals, how this is going

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to benefit both parties and all.

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So it did make me.

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Rethink things a little bit in the sense of like

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what do I want, Like, do I just want to

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do commercials forever? Do I want to go do more film?

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kind of just gives you a moment to check in

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and say where am I at now? Where do I

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want to be in the future, and then you can

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kind of go from there. And I think you almost

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need those little setbacks to remind you, like, hey, I

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need to check in with myself and just make sure

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I'm okay with this path I'm on, so that you

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don't end up, you know, fifty years down the road

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and be like, oh man, I should have thought.

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About that earlier. So I think that's where the benefits.

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Of the the either like reminders or setbacks have been

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for me, is just to put myself in check and

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make sure I'm still doing what I want to do.

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So let's talk the wins then, because you said, you know,

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we've talked about like the not so fun parts. What's

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been a really fun, exciting moment that you celebrated a

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win I've had?

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So, I mean, again, I'm so lucky and I don't

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want to sound cheesy, but I've had so many wins.

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I playing Santa, even like some people hate some people

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love it. It was like one of the most fun

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jobs I've ever had because I don't I'm typically more

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of like a straight actor. I just kind of play

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myself and with with Chris, I got to be this

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character and I got to have so much fun, and

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I got to play with so many of the people

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on set with improv like it was just an absolute blast,

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more than I think I even realized it would be.

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And then I also like the messages that do come

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in and like meeting you, it's all such a wonderful experience.

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So that would just be one example.

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But like you know, I just worked with Tom Brady,

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who doesn't want to meet Tom Brady.

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That guy is incredible, and.

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You're like, you've accomplished so much in your life, this

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like it's weird to be sharing a room with you,

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or when I I mean, it's I guess it's always

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like people motivated, Like I loved working with Anne Hathaway.

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I got to do that movie LBJ with Rob Reiner,

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who unfortunately has passed away, and that is like a

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moment that I extremely cherish because I'm so lucky to

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have been able to not only met him, but to

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like have spent time with him and been directed by him.

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So yeah, it's tough.

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My The wins, I think, gratefully and thankfully have continued,

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and I don't know why they've decided to let me

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keep working so much, but I'm very excited about it.

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We all are. So you go to see you how

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to keep going? Goodness, gracious, you said something that is

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my love language, which is people. You said, you know,

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the thing that makes you enjoy celebrating the wins is

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the people. And that brings me back to a more

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of a reflective place where I want to know who

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is a person, a transition figure in your life for good,

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somebody that you learned a lesson from, or somebody that

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believed in you or saw you or made you feel

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seen when you needed it. Who really changed your life

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in the trajectory of your life.

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I think it's you know, it's obviously a ton of people,

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my parents being the biggest ones. And then if you're

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just going into actually like the career, it's usually just

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my friends that I'm so rounded by, or people that

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I look up to, maybe I don't even know them

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like I see Glenn Powell lately, and I have so

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much respect for him and I am like such a

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big fan rooting for his career even though he doesn't

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know who I am. But there's like so many people

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where I'm like, oh, or like Ashton Kutcher, like he's

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got a new show coming out, and I saw the

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billboard and I was like, yes, this guy's making a

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Like not that he needs a comeback, he's like a

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multi billionaire from being a genius entrepreneur, But it's those

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kind of things where I think I have like my

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role models, I guess is a better way to say that.

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And then also like I've got an acting coach named

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John Rosenfeld who is like such a big supporter who

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makes me want to try harder, like always keeps pushing me,

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and then watching the people in class like when they win,

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it makes me want.

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To try harder. So I think it all sort.

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Of revolves around the community of watching everybody else succeed,

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which makes me excited and then is also trying hard

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to keep up with all of that.

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That's you said something really cool there about being a fan.

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So I have this this image of being a fangirl

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in my head where I tend to fan girl over

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things that I care about, over things that I love,

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over music and songs and different books that I love.

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And I do that because I know what it takes

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to create something, and it takes a lot of emotional energy,

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and I want to share something that brings me that

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kind of peace and happiness and joy with whoever will

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have it. Right. So what you said about fanning over,

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I think you said Ashton Kutcher was one of them,

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and it just I feel seen in that, and I

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wanted to say thank you because it's we think we

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think about transition figures as people, you know, like your parents,

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and that's that's an obvious choice, or you know, maybe

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a teacher or something. But you don't always get to

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meet the people that inspire you. And it's it's cool

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when you get to call them out and something like

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this and say, yes, this, this person's doing something really cool.

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And you know, I think being a fangirl is a

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superpower because I think that the people that find way

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is to elevate and spotlight the hard work and energy

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and effort that's going on behind the scenes with because yes,

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like you said, Ashton's done a lot of amazing things

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and he's made some good impact in the world, and

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he's a genius, you know, creative person, and you know,

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he's a human being and it's in a lot of

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effort and a lot of energy and a lot of

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soul goes into that stuff. So whether or not they

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ever know that the that they have impacted us, it's

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cool to have just to think about. You know, a star,

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a Chris k a Target Santa is just like Tai Schmidt,

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who looks up to people and is inspired by people

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that you know, we don't always get to meet. It's

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just it's cool and I look up to you and

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I'm inspired by you, and I'm grateful for the chance

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to even talk with you today, which honestly feels unreal

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to me, and yet here we are and I'm just

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so grateful. So let's go back. It's just I'm just

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having so much fun, So thank you. I I want

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to go back to the the question I had about

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the version of you in the past. You know, we

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talked about the childhood memory, and I want to know, like,

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because you've lived this life that's very exciting, and you know,

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there's been there's been good, there's been bad, But what

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would you if you could, if you had the chance

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to go back and talk to your twenty two year

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old self, what would you say.

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That's such an interesting age you picked, because that's exactly

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when I became an actor, was at twenty two. So

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I mean, I think, well, that's so hard because part

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of me wants to go back and be like, hey,

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don't worry, it's all going to work out. But I

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almost wonder if that would be detrimental, because I think

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part of the not knowing makes me try so much harder.

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I almost feel like if you the tough part about

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like knowing the future is you can almost become complacent

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or you can do things now because you have that

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information that actually alters your path. So I don't know

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that I would say anything. I think I would just

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want to go back and observe and be like, man,

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who was I back then because it was so long ago,

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and be more of a fly on the wall. I

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mean obviously i'd be like, hey, buy some bitcoin, but.

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Make different investments.

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Right. Well, then again, even if I did that, like that,

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that changes everything. I mean, that's the whole like butterfly effect,

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So that'd be tough. I think I would if I

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could go back and like see my prior self. I

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know this isn't even the question, but I've altered it.

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But I think I would just go back and observe

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and just like really appreciate where I was then, because

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then it would make me appreciate where I am now

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even more.

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That is not an answer I expected at all, and

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I'm so grateful for it, Like honestly, like you just

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want to see it, you just want to live it again, honestly,

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And that's that's amazing to me from a.

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Place I've always listen, everybody's different. Anytime anybody's ever got

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been like, hey, what.

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Would you go back and change?

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I always go nothing, because if I go back and

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change something, what's the goal. I'm so happy right now.

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What if what I change now makes it where I'm

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not happy? And like, I don't think I'm going to

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be happier because of something I've changed in the past,

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because it's shaped to a m.

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As an individual, and it's brought me to the exact point.

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So for me, I'm like, no, I've learned from everything,

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whether good or bad, and some of it's been hard,

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but like that's what life is.

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If you skip all the hard stuff.

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I don't even feel like you get to become like

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a full individual, right, So I always just say nothing.

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I take all of it for what it was, and

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this whole life is an experience. And if I'm happy now,

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then great. If I did start changing the answer and

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saying there's something I would want to change, then I

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think it would make me check in more with my

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current self and say, what's wrong, what's wrong? Why aren't

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you happy? Why do you need to change something from

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the past. And at that point then it's like, well,

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then why worry about the past. Change something now so

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that in ten years you can be like, man, I'm

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glad I made that change because now I'm so much happier.

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Speaking of your present self, I wanted to talk with

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you about the opportunity that we're going to make up.

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It's like we're playing pretend here. So think about in

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this present moment, because we are grateful for what we

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have present moment, what one message would you communicate to

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the world if you had a megaphone and you knew

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that everybody was listening.

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Oh gosh, so many things.

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I feel like we overcomplicate this, which is causing like

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the divide that we have, and I feel like if

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we could just take it back to the basic principles

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of like be nice, Like I wish we could go

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back to like if you don't have anything nice to say,

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say nothing at all.

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Amen were just the people.

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Didn't feel like I feel like there's there's there's three sides,

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even though that makes no sense. There's like one extreme,

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the other extreme, and then there's this huge population that

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I think is actually living in the middle, and everybody's

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just so scared to say anything because they don't want

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to get in trouble, they don't want to get canceled, they.

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Don't want to get judged by both of the extremes.

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And but I do think the majority of the people

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really do live in the middle, where we are just

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human beings that want the best for everybody.

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And I think that's.

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Getting a little bit overshadowed, unfortunately by terrible things that

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are happening in the world, but also just by people

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that are enjoying making things into massive fights. And so

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I wish we could all just drop our guards a bit,

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like our defenses, and be like, hey, we all agree

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we want this place to be better. Let's figure out

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how to do it instead of fighting, because when has

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it ever resulted in like.

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A positive outcome with fighting?

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It just I mean, I get that sometimes you have

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to yell at people, but at the same time, we've

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just stopped listening.

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Everybody just yells at everybody else.

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Nobody listens anymore, and I think more people agree than

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we realize on being good humans. So I hope we

460
00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:40.880
can find our way back to that. And unfortunately, as

461
00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:43.079
much as social media and the internet has brought so

462
00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:47.640
many wonderful opportunities, it's also created this this like echo

463
00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:51.240
chamber and also the ability for so many fake things

464
00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:55.319
to be put out that just reinforce whatever stance you've

465
00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.720
taken in Like it's almost designed to make you angrier

466
00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:01.400
and to make you more upset with the world.

467
00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.759
And it's tough. We're in a weird spot. I fear

468
00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:05.640
for the future.

469
00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.119
My girlfriend I even talk about this with like having

470
00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:09.680
a kid, Like I would love to have a kid.

471
00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:13.000
I think we will, but I'm terrified of like what

472
00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:14.599
that future world looks like.

473
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:16.640
I'm hoping that's just something.

474
00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:19.599
Every generation goes through, Like my parents hopefully felt that

475
00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.079
way too.

476
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.920
It is you should ask your parents, Yeah, I'll ask

477
00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.519
them might be surprised by the answer, honestly, So you

478
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:32.519
said something about listening, and you know that that makes

479
00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:35.119
me want to double down on that because I think

480
00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:37.359
a lot of us have a lot to say, and

481
00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.000
I really want this, this podcast even to be a

482
00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:42.799
platform for people to share their stories. But how do

483
00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:46.680
you become a better listener? Like, how do we collectively

484
00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.759
be better listeners for for people?

485
00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:53.519
I mean, I think first of all, and I'm a

486
00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:57.079
relatively stubborn person, but part of it is like dropping

487
00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:00.839
our egos and like just hearing the people like we

488
00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:02.279
don't I don't know.

489
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:03.240
Why anybody thinks that.

490
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:05.359
I think there's like nine billion people on the planet

491
00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.240
or something. I don't know why anybody thinks we're all

492
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.359
going to agree on everything or anything for that matter.

493
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.839
But I do think that we all are built with

494
00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:17.799
like basic fundamental principles on like how to live and

495
00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:22.480
what is right and what is wrong. So if we

496
00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.240
can just get past you totally agreeing with everything I'm

497
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.720
saying and just get on that baseline of like let's

498
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:31.160
all be kind, then I think that's a good start.

499
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.559
But there's this thing called.

500
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.319
A confirmation bias, and so like you decide on what

501
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.160
you've decided, and then you just go search the internet

502
00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:40.440
to find something that backs up your view and you're like, yeah,

503
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.319
that's so easy to do, but maybe just think of

504
00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:46.319
things from another person's perspective, like step outside of your

505
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:50.319
shoes for a second. Yeah, I don't know, I don't

506
00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:51.680
know what the solution is. I think a lot of

507
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.920
people are trying to find the solution to this and

508
00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.759
it's tough, but yeah, I think, you know, asking questions,

509
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:03.839
doing things like this, watching interviews, reading books, learning different perspectives,

510
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.359
studying different religions, like opening your mind to a world

511
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.119
outside of your own just so you can better understand

512
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:10.759
somebody else.

513
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:13.079
Seems to be like the good start.

514
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.519
But I understand we're all busy and everybody's got things

515
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:17.039
to do, and it's tough.

516
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.079
It is, but it doesn't have to be because every

517
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:23.279
one of us gets to choose every day, right, we

518
00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.440
get we get to choose, We get to honestly, sometimes

519
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.720
just close your mouth, count to ten, let the other

520
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.680
person finish what they're saying. You know, it's it's not

521
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.960
rocket science. That feels it feels so ethereal sometimes, but really, honestly.

522
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.000
It's not and I get in trouble over this a

523
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.720
lot because I was obviously gone to therapy. I think

524
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:44.960
therapy should That's probably a dangerous thing to say, but

525
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.079
I think therapy should basically be required at some point

526
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.839
in your life because it's it's just a good idea.

527
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:52.119
To have like a sounding board, have a professional to

528
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:52.480
talk to.

529
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.960
We all have moments of crisis and like chaos, so

530
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:57.160
it's never a bad idea and.

531
00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.559
I hate that it's like this. Luckily it's gotten better.

532
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:00.480
I think I was a kid.

533
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.200
I was even afraid to tell my parents that I

534
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:03.960
went to therapy because I thought that meant that I

535
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.440
was there's something was wrong with.

536
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.359
Me, And I was like, no, I just needed to talk.

537
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.519
Like I think, first of all, as much as we

538
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.440
need to listen, I do think we need people to

539
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:13.920
be able to talk, because I think that's where these

540
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:16.880
outbursts and like these rage incidents happen.

541
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.279
But I, oh, gosh, now where was I going on this?

542
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:20.599
Oh?

543
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.079
So sometimes I have learned because I do this to

544
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:27.359
myself even if I'm having a bad day. I call

545
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:30.799
it like putting things into perspective, but there's another word

546
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:34.240
for it, where it's like invalidating your feelings. But I'm like, listen, yes,

547
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.200
it like at such a bummer. You got rear ended today.

548
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.400
Somebody else's parents died today, or somebody else's lost a child,

549
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.799
or in another country, somebody just got bombed. Like, we

550
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.839
got to put things into perspective, because it's so easy

551
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.440
to go doom and gloom on your own life. But

552
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.559
if you put things into like a macro, you're like,

553
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.640
oh my gosh, my problems are so small, and especially

554
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.640
with me being in Los Angeles and being an actor,

555
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.240
like you boohoo, you like you lost a job somebody

556
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.400
else like you can't get down on that stuff.

557
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.039
And I know that that's sort of dangerous, but.

558
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.559
That's how I usually get past most things, as I

559
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:13.359
just go to like, even is my worst day is

560
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.200
still better than somebody else's best day.

561
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.960
And I think that has helped me a lot. But yeah,

562
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:21.240
I don't know. I think it's tricky.

563
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.799
We can validate the feeling without diminishing it, right, you can.

564
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.160
You can feel the feelings and work through that without

565
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.720
having it be you know, not as you know apples

566
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.640
and oranges situation, but you know, it reminds me of

567
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.480
we I broke my phone in August, and it was

568
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.880
I was so sad. I was. I was heart broken

569
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.920
because I dropped my phone in the hot tub and

570
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:48.839
you know, first world problems first of all. But then

571
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:53.400
also a month later, our house flooded and like we

572
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.680
had four inches of water in our basement and we

573
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.720
ended up having about sixty thousand dollars worth of damage

574
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.680
to our house. And I'll tell you, did that shift

575
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:04.640
my perspective about my broken phone?

576
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:05.839
Right?

577
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.200
Yes? Yes, in real time, I thought, gee, I thought

578
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.960
I had it so hard having that little phone be broken,

579
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.680
when really, like the you know, might now my house

580
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.640
is still and you know, we're still in transition, because

581
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:20.319
that's what you do. You work through it and you

582
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:24.720
find a way. But it's fascinating perspective matters, and that

583
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:26.839
that's a that's a very good that's a very good

584
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.440
piece of advice for people. Just to keep in mind.

585
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.599
You know your your you said your worst day, you

586
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.160
know your best day, worst day. That that line you

587
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.240
said was very good. So I'll have to go back

588
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.559
and clip that line because that was awesome. So thank you.

589
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.599
I'm wondering to take it to a little bit of

590
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:48.079
a happier place. I'm wondering, what is something unreal that's

591
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:51.039
happened to you or for you, or you know in

592
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:54.400
your life, Like walk me through an unreal moment and

593
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.200
what you gained or learned or benefited from it.

594
00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.720
I mean, I think the fact that I'm even here

595
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.559
to talk to you and that I am an actor

596
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.319
is an unreal moment for me because I had no

597
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.400
intentions of being an actor. I was a very, very

598
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.359
shy computer nerd, and that's what I went to school for.

599
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:11.960
I was a computer programmer.

600
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.119
I was, well, I need to interrupt you. You were shy.

601
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:17.759
Oh my gosh.

602
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.559
Becoming an actor actually changed like who I am as

603
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.119
an individual. My first few audition experiences would I would

604
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.799
like go to the audition. There were multiple where I

605
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.519
went to the audition and you can back in the day,

606
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:30.519
we did it in real life.

607
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.039
Sometimes now it's just through tape, but you can hear

608
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.480
the other people doing things like acting.

609
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.880
And there was like a horror movie I was auditioning for,

610
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:40.920
and you had to like peek through a hole and

611
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.200
then the monster grabs your eye and rip your eyeball out,

612
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:44.799
so then you have to like scream on the floor

613
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.039
and like roll around in agony, and I was like, oh,

614
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.000
I can't do that. I will feel so like self

615
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.160
conscious and I'll just feel dumb, and so I left.

616
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.880
I would not like if I was out at a

617
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.359
bar or something. I didn't talk to people. I had

618
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.319
like a very very small group of friends.

619
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.599
In high school. I just was very introverted.

620
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:08.359
I kept myself and I had no real social skills

621
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.240
other than like, you know, if my parents' friends came over.

622
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.960
I was very polite and respectful. But when I switched

623
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:19.000
into being an actor, it like shifted my entire personality

624
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.519
into a different person, and it gave me so much

625
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.720
freedom to like have so much more fun and be

626
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.519
more myself as opposed to like this little shell of

627
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.880
a person. So I think that is like my biggest

628
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.720
change in my life that I'm so grateful for, because

629
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.839
I think I'm so much happier now as this human

630
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.200
being than I was as the.

631
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.839
Previous How did you break through being shy? Though?

632
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:40.039
Like?

633
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.200
What how did you make that change?

634
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:43.119
Doing it?

635
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.440
You?

636
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:43.680
Just?

637
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.039
I mean it's like like there's even there's like UCB,

638
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.839
which is an improv school here, and.

639
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.599
Then there's like you know, stand up comedians and everything,

640
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.640
so you I think it's called flappers.

641
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.519
So they take business people and regular people that don't

642
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.640
want to be actors and they tell them to take

643
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.960
these classes because it like puts you in a really

644
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.839
the uncomfortable situation and it makes you grow. And either

645
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:05.960
I guess you quit the class and you decide to

646
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:07.720
go back to who you were, or you're like, oh,

647
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.119
like it like sort of demystifies, it makes it a

648
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.359
lot less scary, and it also teaches you some tools

649
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.519
on how to talk, how to how to carry on

650
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.759
a conversation, like how to yes and and so it

651
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:19.759
gives you more skills.

652
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.599
And I think that's like how I.

653
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:26.279
Became less shy was by continuously going out and talking

654
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.200
to people and doing these auditions and taking classes and

655
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.359
just learning to be more comfortable with myself.

656
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.680
So that's that's powerful, Like that is I just need

657
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.079
to respect, Like hello, that is an incredible thing that

658
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.920
a lot of people can't do. And it's because it's hard.

659
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.640
It's because it's uncomfortable. It's because you're walking through the

660
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.400
mud and you're on the floor screaming about an eyeball

661
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.480
getting ripped out or whatever. That's funny, Like.

662
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:51.079
Back in the day.

663
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:52.680
That's like when I mean when I was a kid,

664
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.240
like that's what you didd you may you played pretend

665
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.799
like right run around the backyard, like thinking that we

666
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.960
were like teenage mutant ninja turtles and like ridiculous, which

667
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.440
as adults we've now been taught to be like, that's silly.

668
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.799
Don't do that, like people are gonna think you're crazy.

669
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:08.759
But back in the day, you didn't worry about that,

670
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.079
And so it's almost like weirdly bringing your your mind

671
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.799
back to like a childlike type of play and like fun.

672
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.319
But obviously you do it in the appropriate times. You

673
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.799
don't do it in the busy subway in New York

674
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:22.240
or something.

675
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.400
I go play teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. That sounds so fun,

676
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:26.079
I know.

677
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.079
I briefly watched I think it was the third where

678
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.359
they like travel through time like came on TV the

679
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:32.920
other day and I watched it for a minute, and

680
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.839
I also thought, like these whatever because I think it's

681
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.720
like an animatronic head with a guy inside, but somebody

682
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.319
else controls the head and possibly I think the voice.

683
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.839
And I was like, this was so far beyond its

684
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.880
time and so much better than most of the CGI.

685
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.000
I wish we could go back to, like the practical effects.

686
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.000
There's so much I wish we could go back to,

687
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.200
but we can't. But one thing we can go back

688
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.759
to because I took you off course, was your unreal moment.

689
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.839
You know, I was we feared off talking about how

690
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.319
to get through the shyness and the awkwardness and that stuff,

691
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.119
which is important for people to know. But also I

692
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.480
cut you off, and I made a promise to myself.

693
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.160
I wasn't going to do that, but here we are,

694
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.240
so tell me go back to your unreal moment.

695
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.000
I think, But I think that was.

696
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:17.640
I think we were still in the same world, because

697
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.400
I think my unreal moment is the.

698
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.240
Day I walked out of.

699
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.880
My job that I was very comfortable in and decided

700
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.119
to move to Los Angeles to sleep on my buddy's couch.

701
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:32.160
And like what that did for my life, I don't

702
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.839
even know today, because even when I go back and

703
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.519
think about that, I'm like, wow, that was a bold move.

704
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.119
Like I owned a house in Arizona, I had I

705
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.599
had just gotten a new job, like two months prior

706
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.359
that I had fought so hard to get. I just

707
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.480
finished grad school and I was like, what, like, what

708
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:50.799
a crazy thing to do?

709
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.160
And I think, as much as it's gonna this is

710
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:53.960
gonna sound bad.

711
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.920
And I guess, weirdly, this is one of those setbacks

712
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:57.079
you were talking about earlier.

713
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.680
There was a girl that I had been dating.

714
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.839
Off and on all through high school and we were

715
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.400
off and she got pregnant with another guy and that

716
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.079
like destroyed me.

717
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.359
And so I was like, I need to leave the state.

718
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.000
And so because I needed to leave the state, my

719
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.759
buddy was in LA and he was an actor, and

720
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.880
I was like, I've always been curious, but I've never

721
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:19.759
actually thought I could.

722
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.839
But I think I just wanted to get out of Arizona.

723
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.359
So bad that that because of that, that's why I

724
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.799
ended up going so Weirdly, that was like an awful

725
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.200
moment in my life that pivoted my life into a

726
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.880
place that I'm at now, which is I'm so grateful

727
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.480
for So I guess that's that's probably a better example

728
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.640
of something bad that's happened, that's that's ended up turning

729
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:40.240
out really good.

730
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.279
Well, you turned pain into purpose and that is a

731
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.559
that is a beautiful thing that you know, you found

732
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.279
you found your way too in a time when you

733
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.079
could have it was like a sink or swim moment

734
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.240
and you you know, you fully removed yourself from the

735
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.759
situation and dumped in another lake. So that's impressive.

736
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.960
Luckily this like wasn't like filled with piranhas and it

737
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.720
turned out fine.

738
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.319
But yeah, it was scary.

739
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.199
You never know, and that's that's a possibility too, right,

740
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.000
And we learned, We learned from all of it. So

741
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.199
I we've talked a lot about mindset and and what

742
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.519
we learned from experience and what we learn from people.

743
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.079
I want to talk a little bit about music because

744
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.159
music is music reaches I think it was in Stranger

745
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.239
Things the last season there was a line about how

746
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.760
music reaches parts of your brain that words can't, and

747
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.800
I just it's so true because there's lyrics and then

748
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.440
there's like just the physicality of the beats and the

749
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.639
rhythm and all of that that is just so restorative

750
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.360
for so many people. So I want to know that

751
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.440
there's there's a couple of different levels of this. There's

752
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.000
this the songs that you that you turn to and

753
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.239
in hard times, and there's the songs that you turn

754
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.400
to to cheer yourself up. And then there's the songs

755
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.159
that you you kind of happy, they're they're they're like

756
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.559
the happy moment times you you take this wherever you

757
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.880
want to go. But I'm I'm I'm I really want

758
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.559
to put together a little you know, what is Brent

759
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:09.639
Bailey's playlist for the song of survival? What's Brent Bailey's

760
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.280
playlist for a moment when things are rough? You know?

761
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.960
And then what's what's another one where like when things

762
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.280
are good and you're celebrating.

763
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:20.239
Don't hate me?

764
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.679
But I I am so not picky when it comes

765
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:24.199
to music.

766
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:26.960
I don't have like I could not hate you.

767
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.800
Oh that's good news. Yeah, I don't have to go

768
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:31.440
to songs.

769
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.199
I'm definitely probably a crazy person and the type that

770
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.679
just like when I get in the car, now it's

771
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.280
I've evolved a bit, so my car actually has car plays,

772
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.880
So now I go to Spotify, but I just say,

773
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.400
like play classic rock, and then it just plays. And

774
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.800
since now there's no ads, I don't ever change the channel.

775
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:49.480
It just goes.

776
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:51.599
Back in the day, I would turn on the radio

777
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.039
and I would just let it play until an AD

778
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.760
came on, and then I would change the station and

779
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.119
I would just go to another one. I'm so easy

780
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.840
when it comes to music, but I also and this

781
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.760
drives my girlfriend crazy. I don't need anything. I don't

782
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.559
need noises. So sometimes I'm just in utter silence. And

783
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.719
sometimes I'll drive, like a six hour drive in silence,

784
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:13.960
and I sort of love it.

785
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.199
I love just like the peace and quiet.

786
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.480
Sometimes I'll have the radio just a little bit on,

787
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.480
so it's like very faint, and she's like, if you

788
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.480
can't hear that, I either need you to turn it

789
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.239
up or turn it off. But yeah, I don't know

790
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.639
what my answer would be to those I love music.

791
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.400
I have a really weird skill where I won't even

792
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.320
know the artist or the name of the song, but

793
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.440
I can tell you exactly what movie it played in

794
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.960
at what point in the movie, And I don't.

795
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.880
Know why that is.

796
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.000
I can be like, oh, yeah, this was in wedding Crashers,

797
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.679
but I couldn't tell you who sings it, or what

798
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.119
the song is or the words of the song. And

799
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:53.159
I don't know why my brain can make that association

800
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:54.199
so quickly.

801
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:55.760
Past.

802
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:02.119
Yeah, it's a weird little party trick. I suppose, Yeah,

803
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:03.599
I could. I have no idea.

804
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.239
I err on the side of your girlfriend. I like

805
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.079
the noise. I like a little bit of I actually

806
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.320
soundtrack my life, so I tend to have different music

807
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:15.320
literally like a playlist.

808
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:15.639
Yeah.

809
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.559
I got into writing roller coasters in the last couple

810
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:21.280
of years and I have done fifty of them in

811
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:25.239
two years, and every single roller people and I can't.

812
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.920
I can't. I shouldn't probably have my aarpods in because like,

813
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.559
if it were to fly out, it would probably hurt somebody.

814
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.079
But I always have an air pod in and I

815
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.599
usually play a specific song depending on the day and

816
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:37.519
whatever else. And it said, this is weird thing, but

817
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.400
it helps ground me when I'm doing something scary because

818
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.000
I hated roller coasters. It was twenty twenty three. I

819
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.840
did my very first one at Dollywood and I thought

820
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.679
I was going to die. Like it was called Thunderhead

821
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:49.280
and you should, oh my gosh, I should show you

822
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.400
the picture. It's I'll put the picture in the show

823
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.480
notes because it's that funny. But I have it's helped

824
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.559
me work through fear, and music has actually, like somehow

825
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.159
soundtracking on the role or coasters has its just been

826
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.480
this very healing and restorative thing for me. But also

827
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:07.840
live music. I just I feel, you know, when music, movement,

828
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.599
and mindset come together, my soul feels at peace, and

829
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.639
my body is not at peace. My body is doing

830
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.280
things that I don't understand how it's possible. Like I

831
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.920
was at a concert in November and the jumping that happens,

832
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.199
I'm like, how I'm not I'm not a suit I

833
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.159
try to be fit, I try to stay healthy, but

834
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.920
I'm not like a super active human. So the amount

835
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:33.320
of the jumping something to see. But your answer is fine,

836
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.840
and it's interesting to me that there are that you

837
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.880
are the second human I've talked to today and my

838
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.760
husband falls into this category two where you just you

839
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.719
do just like the peace and there's nothing, there's nothing

840
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.400
wrong with that. You just like the stillness and and

841
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.639
being honestly being present in the moment. And we could

842
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.039
we could, truly like we could use more of that.

843
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.239
So you don't have to apologize, and I wouldn't hate

844
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.039
you for that answer. That's a very good answer. So

845
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.159
and more of us need to find comfort in inside,

846
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.719
you know, we don't need to always have that noise.

847
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:06.599
I love my favorite noises.

848
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.320
Are this gonna sound so dumb, but like I love

849
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.440
the sound of like car tires on gravel. And I

850
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.159
love the sound of like if we go camping, like

851
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.840
the sound of the fire, like those sounds that I

852
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:18.719
really really like.

853
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.400
That does not sound what what word did you use?

854
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:22.880
That that sounds amazing?

855
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:24.000
Okay, good?

856
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:25.920
Yeah, I don't know if those are called like just

857
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.559
ambient sounds, I guess. But the waves, like if we

858
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.800
ever get a place, like we go to Cabo a

859
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.719
lot and we'll get a place on the beach, like

860
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:35.599
I love sleeping with the door open so you can

861
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:36.280
hear the waves.

862
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.719
Like I like those types of sounds.

863
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.440
Nature sounds too, like you're you're grounded in nature, and

864
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.920
that's again a healing and restorative sound that you're you know,

865
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.119
feeling peaced by that. That that's good. That's a good thing.

866
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:53.280
So so to get to we've talked a little past,

867
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.480
talked a little present, Let's talk a little future. This

868
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.559
is hard, this is a harder one. But my thought is,

869
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.519
you know, I have so much respect for a man

870
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.599
who's passed away. His name was Dave Hollis, and he

871
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.079
had in his book he wrote about his eightieth birthday

872
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:12.599
and what he wanted that to look like and how

873
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.320
he wanted the people he wanted there and the legacy

874
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.880
that he wanted to leave, and this sad thing happened

875
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:23.199
where he passed away and then suddenly abruptly, and it

876
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.559
happened maybe two years ago, but he passed away, and

877
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:29.239
then a bunch of us got on a zoom call.

878
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.719
It was about two hundred people from all kinds of

879
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.400
walks of life, and we had this like kind of

880
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.400
like memorial service tribute to him, and everybody said the

881
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:42.199
kindest things, and I just wished, I just wish that

882
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.079
he could have heard, like I wished he could have

883
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.119
been there. And of course, you know, I have faith

884
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.079
and I believe that he was there in his way,

885
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.840
but we need to say more of it out loud

886
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.440
before it's too late. And I feel this way about

887
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.199
the people we care about, but I also feel it

888
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.760
about ourselves because I'm a huge believer and advocate for

889
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:03.199
self love and the importance of really just it's not

890
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.960
self serving to love on yourself like you need you

891
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.440
need that because then the more you love on yourself,

892
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.320
it just overflows into the world around you. So my

893
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:16.519
eighty year old birthday situation for you, if you're sitting

894
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:18.880
there with you know, your friends and family on your

895
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.840
eightieth birthday? What do you want them to be saying

896
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.440
about me or about you or in the room or

897
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.400
how the everything about it? What do you want to

898
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.239
look like? What do you want to sound like? And

899
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.679
what do you want what do you want them to

900
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:32.519
say about you?

901
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.400
When I'm eighty, so we're talking thirty eight years from now.

902
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.159
Don't do the math all reasons like you're sending a

903
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:44.840
time clock on yourself. Don't do that.

904
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.159
Well, I was just thinking like if I'm eighty, like

905
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.719
if I do have a kid in the next couple years,

906
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.639
and I'm probably sitting in front of like a thirty

907
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.960
six year old small version of me, So I weirdly

908
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.800
would want more of the attention to be on him

909
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.480
and what or her and what they want to accomplish

910
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.320
in their life. I think I would want It's interesting

911
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.320
because I'm thinking, like, well, who's gonna be there that's

912
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.280
talking about me, that doesn't already know me, that we

913
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.760
haven't like you know, my hopefully wife at the time. Unfortunately,

914
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:14.719
like my parents would be passed away, so it'd be

915
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.679
like friends that would have been on this journey with me.

916
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.280
I think they wanted to be like, man, you had

917
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.199
a really cool career. You got to do a lot

918
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:21.320
of cool things in life.

919
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.559
And I would hope that whoever my child is would

920
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.719
be like, there's this really cool video. I don't know

921
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.840
if you've seen it, Jackie Chan watching clips of all

922
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:33.519
of his work with his daughter.

923
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:36.519
And then I'm writing it down. We're gonna we're gonna link.

924
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.480
Then the show notes to Jackie.

925
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.800
Who can watch it without crying, you're a superhero, because.

926
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.440
She's all like not only like in awe, and like

927
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.400
thinks he's so cool. But then she says like, didn't

928
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.480
it hurt? And then he says, like so much, and

929
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:50.760
then they both start crying.

930
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:51.639
Uh.

931
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.760
I don't know. It's such a way I could cry

932
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:55.199
right now. It's such like a.

933
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.559
Weird emotional video that it like that. I think is

934
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.199
so cool to have somebody that looks up to you

935
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.760
and respects you so much. That is, you know, your

936
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.480
child thinking that what you did in your life not

937
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.840
only was like cool, but it meant something, it mattered,

938
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:14.480
Like that's I think the ultimate goal. But I think

939
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.800
as long as I'm happy with how my life went

940
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:18.800
too when I turn eighty, that that'll be enough. I

941
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.360
don't need somebody else to tell me that it was

942
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.159
it was all worthwhile, but I think that would be fun.

943
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.639
Love it, so tell me. The whole purpose of having

944
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.480
guests on here, Brent is particularly the first few. So

945
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.559
you are one of the very first few people that

946
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.280
I've so honored and so grateful to join me today.

947
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.519
You said it was unreal coming on and talking to me.

948
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.400
It is unreal having you here. So I am so

949
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.760
grateful for you and for your belief and your investment

950
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:53.519
of your time and energy and thoughts into this whole

951
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.719
thing today. So as as this is my thank you, honestly,

952
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.199
this whole episode is my thank you to you for

953
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.239
just being honestly more of a transition figure in my

954
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.679
life than you're aware of. So I wanted to give

955
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.239
you as part of that, just a platform and a

956
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.119
moment to say what's going on, like, what's coming? What

957
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.760
should we be aware of? Where can people find you?

958
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.079
Where can people follow you? Where can people cheer you on?

959
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.280
Just walk us through what's next? For Brent.

960
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:22.760
That's a great question.

961
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:26.639
I you know, in my career you never really know

962
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:27.599
what's next.

963
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.599
You know what you've done.

964
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.679
So I shot a couple movies back in twenty twenty

965
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.000
two that are coming out this year. One of them

966
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.960
is called The Huntsman. It comes out on February tenth

967
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.320
on demand and digital. And then I have another movie

968
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.119
called Dead of Night, which I honestly have no idea

969
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.199
where it's going to be, but it's coming out sometime

970
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.760
this year. And then I have a really good feeling

971
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.840
about this year. I think not only just for me,

972
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.599
but I think for my friends and the people that

973
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.519
I'm close with, and I think the business in general

974
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.400
and hopefully for all of humanity.

975
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.119
But I think it's going to.

976
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:02.559
Be a great year. I've been meeting tomorrow which could

977
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.760
lead to some new movies. I have a couple different

978
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.000
things lined up that maybe would get me involved in

979
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:11.480
the business in a little bit of a different way

980
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.679
as more of like an investor too.

981
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.559
So I think there's a lot of doors that are opening, and.

982
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.159
I do feel like I'm at this really cool point

983
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:19.760
in my career where i think there is going to

984
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.119
be a big shift and so I'm excited for what

985
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:23.679
that is.

986
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.639
But if you do want to follow along and.

987
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.559
See if it turns out the way I think it is,

988
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.000
I really am only active on Instagram, and it's just

989
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.119
my name at Brent m Bailey because my name is

990
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.679
Brent Michael Bailey. I'm not very active on there, so

991
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.559
if you're looking for somebody that posts a lot, I

992
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.000
don't do it very much. But I try to post

993
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.159
when it matters. I just don't post about like my

994
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.480
basic life every day because I as much as maybe

995
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:49.320
it would be interesting, I feel like I don't think

996
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.840
it's interesting, and so I don't do it. And I

997
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.559
also just don't like to have to like have my

998
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:55.239
phone out all the time. I like to live in

999
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:56.920
the moment, So there won't be a lot, but there

1000
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:58.639
will be highlights and it'll tell you where you can

1001
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.400
see things that I'm doing. And yeah, I think that's

1002
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.679
it as far as like professional stuff goes. I'm sure

1003
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.119
there'll be more commercials. Fingers crossed. Chris gets to come

1004
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.239
back for year three, but I have no idea if

1005
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:11.960
it will or won't.

1006
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:13.480
Yeah, that's it.

1007
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.039
Thank you for that, and thank you for being here. Honestly,

1008
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.840
I think that the the last thing that I want

1009
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.119
to ask is is very open ended. So take it,

1010
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.000
take it for what you want. But what did I

1011
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.400
not ask that you would want? To share.

1012
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:34.519
Oh gosh, nothing pops like directly into my mind.

1013
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.639
Uh No, I think you did a great job.

1014
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.920
I think I think we talked about this a little

1015
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:42.880
bit in like the email before, about like planning what

1016
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.079
we're going to talk about versus not planning, and I love.

1017
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.480
The I mean, obviously you have to have some kind

1018
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:47.760
of plan.

1019
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.960
I have done these before where the person like clearly

1020
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.360
doesn't even know who I am, and you're like, oh, oh,

1021
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:55.840
this is this is this is going to be that

1022
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.079
kind of interview. So I think like research and preparations

1023
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.320
obviously very important, but I like having like a loose

1024
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.320
guideline or outline of what we're going to do and

1025
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.360
then just seem kind of where it flows because I

1026
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.079
think it makes it more authentic and then you don't

1027
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:13.159
get like pre prepared answers. So yeah, as far as

1028
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.400
like what else you could have asked, I have no idea.

1029
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:18.000
Yeah.

1030
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.239
Then I think usually when people go to like what

1031
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.119
can I ask that I haven't asked, it always like

1032
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:23.880
tends to lean towards like favorites.

1033
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.239
And I'm a terrible person at favorites, Like what's your

1034
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:28.119
favorite food? And you're like, I don't know, like it

1035
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:29.880
depends on what I'm in the mood for that night.

1036
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.519
I really do want to know your favorite food, though.

1037
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:36.000
I'm so bad at favorites.

1038
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.760
Like I think if if you were like, hey, gun

1039
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:40.440
to your head this you have to choose.

1040
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.159
A meal, We're not doing that. How about it? You

1041
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.880
have to have like a favorite candy or a favorite beverage,

1042
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.960
or a favorite comfort food or.

1043
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:54.320
Buts that her mom taught to her that we have

1044
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.639
every Thanksgiving and Christmas, and they're so good.

1045
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.760
Apparently back in the day they used to have a

1046
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.119
farm and.

1047
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.280
They would get like fresh eggs, and so the noodles,

1048
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:05.519
because there's eggs in them, obviously that those would turn

1049
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.079
out like a really beautiful like yellow eat orange color.

1050
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:11.159
And now, unfortunately, I guess that color doesn't exist anymore

1051
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.440
unless you get a product called like happy eggs, and

1052
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.199
so now she has to add food coloring to make

1053
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.480
it look the same. But it's like that with like

1054
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:22.000
some mashed potatoes is definitely a comfort food. But if

1055
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.400
I had to go, like I want something that I

1056
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:24.960
really really really want, I think I would go like

1057
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.519
surf and turf, like a really good steak, and like

1058
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.159
lobster and scallops.

1059
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.679
But I'm so Benny Hannah is one of my favorite restaurants.

1060
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:35.599
There's something about the whole experience with like the tepping

1061
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.199
table and like the volcano and like the beating heart

1062
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.719
that it gets me every time. If you ever asked

1063
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:43.960
me to go to Benny Hanna, I would be like,

1064
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:44.800
where where we go?

1065
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:45.079
Win?

1066
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.840
Let's I will be there at the Encino one or

1067
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:49.400
the Santa Monica on which what are we going to?

1068
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:51.960
We're going to the Milwaukee one when you're in.

1069
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.079
Milwaukee, Milwaukee want a pretty good one?

1070
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:56.960
I haven't been that. I will go with you when

1071
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:58.400
you're here. So that's the plan.

1072
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.880
You've never been to any huh ever ever? Oh man, I.

1073
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.119
Mean listen, you're gonna have an upset stomach because it's

1074
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.519
just part of Benny hotapp But it's really good.

1075
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:10.280
It's so worth it.

1076
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:13.800
Oh my gosh.

1077
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:18.239
On that note, Brent Dailey, thank you for being here today.

1078
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.079
If you're seeing this, you're my friend. Thank you for

1079
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.639
being here. I really appreciate that you took time out

1080
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.639
of your day to spend with Lollo me. I would

1081
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:34.280
love to hear from you. I actually don't. This part

1082
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.599
is uncomfortable for me. Just just talking like this is

1083
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.320
uncomfortable for me somehow more so than this, But that's

1084
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:42.800
I've practiced that I have the TikTok and I do

1085
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.119
the things, and this is harder. So please talk to me,

1086
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.679
find me on social tell me what you thought, tell

1087
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.079
me what you think, tell me what questions you have

1088
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.519
or what guests you want to see. I want this

1089
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.239
to feel like you're part of this, because you are.

1090
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:58.960
You mean something to me and I'm so grateful. So

1091
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.239
if you would be so kind as to go and

1092
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.719
give me a review and some stars and just let

1093
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.840
me know what you're thinking, I would really appreciate it.

1094
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.840
And I'd love to see you back here any time.

1095
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.440
To help you remember who you are while you build

1096
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.920
who you're meant to be. Quick before you forget