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You're in a good place now. You are listening to
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perspectives with Ashley.
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Burge's Welcome back, Live to Live Your True Life perspectives
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and I'm your host, Ashley Burgess. On today's show, we're
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going to be exploring self limiting beliefs and it's very
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important to explore this because these hold us back, they
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create problems in our life, they activate the self sabotage
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that we can contribute in our own life, and exploring
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this is very important, but also understanding it, why it's happening,
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and how do we reprogram these thoughts and this is
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a way that we can get back on the proper
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path as well as maybe being on a new path
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that's actually good for us for our self growth and
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our just our personal success. And in joining me on
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the show, somebody that I admire, somebody that is working
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in reprogramming self limits beliefs, working with clients on dealing
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with childhood trauma and being able to reverse a lot
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of these negative aspects of these beliefs is Leah Fisher.
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Leah is not only a great friend of mine, she's
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also a professional artist and she's also gotten back into therapy,
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which is so amazing because she got back into it.
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She's still doing the artwork, honestly, but she's back at
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her major passion in life, and so I'm so glad
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to have her live on the show. Leah, how are
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you doing today?
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I'm great, Ashley, I'm so happy to be here. Thank
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you so much for having me on.
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How are you I'm doing great. I'm doing great. And
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I'm so glad that you've decided to get back into therapy.
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You know, share a little bit about that, because you know,
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you do have this amazing, you know, art background as well. Yeah.
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Yeah, So probably about fifteen years ago, I had graduated
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from grad school and to be a therapist, and at
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the same time I my art career started happening kind
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of out of left field. That diverted my attention for
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a few years, but I never really lost the passion
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for human behavior and what affects us and how we
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have the ability to make ourselves heal and live more
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creative and passionate lives. And so just in the last
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few months, I've decided to start my practice back up,
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and it's been amazing. It's been absolutely amazing. I'm thrilled
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to be doing it and still painting too, of course.
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It's amazing. And also Leah is working with me as well,
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so really happy about that.
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Yes, yes, I'm so excited about our partnership.
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Absolutely, it's amazing. So this is great. And we were
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talking the other day on the phone and you know,
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kind of discussing, you know, self limiting beliefs and what
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have you, and it's like, hey, let's let's let's do
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a show, let's do radio show, this to a podcast
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on it, because this is something that's really important that
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I think is not really thought about. I don't think
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a lot of people think about the impact that these
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beliefs have on us and the impact it has on
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our future. But just even that our day to day.
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Life, absolutely at everything that we observe in the world,
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and the opinions and the judgments that we have about
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it are simply our beliefs, what we believe to be true.
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And for example, some things that some people would think
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are completely horrible, some other people would think is amazing.
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Like let's take divorce for instance. Some people are thrilled
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at the beginning divorced and some people are shattered, and it's
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the same event. But it's just some beliefs that you
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have around the circumstance that really cause suffering or happiness.
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That's so true. It's the way we see things as
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the way we see the world. If we see the
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world as a very happy, peaceful place, we will see
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things that way. If we see the world as a
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very scary place and a very fearful place, we'll see
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the world that way as well. You know, when we
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look at self limiting beliefs, they're definitely caused by a
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lot of aspects. And my first thought is, you know,
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past experiences or common it's made by others. I mean,
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what are some other uh you know, ways or factors
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of self limiting beliefs where they originate from.
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Yeah, that's a that's a really smart question. Well, so
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where we first originally.
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Get our beliefs.
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It's actually between the ages of zero and seven and
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we The way this works is that when we're young
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children and we are around our caregivers and around our environment,
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the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that is
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responsible for our higher thinking abilities and logic, is not
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really formed at all. So as children, as we are
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learning where these little humans coming into the world, we're
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absorbing everything around us. We're absorbing our parents, what they say,
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what they're feeling, what the environment is, what the overall
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tone of the environment is. And unfortunately, because the prefrontal cortex,
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the thinking brain isn't online. Now, if we experience anything
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that's perceived as negative and negative emotions such as fear
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or shame, or uncertainty or anger. Because we're children, we
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take everything so personally. We don't have the ability to say, Okay,
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maybe my parents have a stressful job or they don't
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have all the time in the world to attend to
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every emotional need I have, And we will form self limiting.
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Beliefs because of a negative.
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Emotion that we experience. For example, say just take that example,
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your dad having to work a lot because he's a
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high powered attorney, and he works eighty hours a week.
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Where your dad's not there, you're missing him and you're
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feeling sadness. A little child can easily interpret that as
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I don't matter. If he loved me, I would he
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would be here. Therefore, my needs don't matter and I'm unlovable,
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and that thought can go with you into adulthoods right,
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does that make sense?
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Very powerful for sure, because we're not able to really
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process that at that time, because we're not able to say, oh,
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you know, oh dad was you know, had this job.
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And it's interesting when you work with clients, you know,
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who were in their thirties or forties and it's like, well,
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how do you feel about this, Oh, my dad was
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a good person, he tried, you know, he was doing
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this or doing that. But we can't process at that
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level at that age.
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Corect not at all. And I do have to work
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with my clients a little bit on that because many
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times they had really amazing parents that did everything in
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the world for them and gave them every benefit that
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may not have understood exactly how a child can can
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kind of jump to some conclusions don't really serve them
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that well, like for instant. Another example is you know
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parents who are very supportive and will put their kids
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in and all kinds of lessons and say you're so
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proud of you and you're so good at this, and
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you know you're amazing. One message that a child can do,
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it's very common, is that getting love is conditional based
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on their performance instead of just you know who they
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are like as a human. So you'll see a lot
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of successful people doing amazing things that are rock stars
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in their own right, and but deep down they just
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don't feel good enough because it's always about that next
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like dopamine hit of I've got to accomplish this, I've
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got to win this, I've got to perform to feel loved.
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That's true, and I find it hard because sometimes there's
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that big disconnect and Lee, I think you know what
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I'm saying. When you know you're in a session with
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a client who you know you're asking about that parent,
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and you know they've already kind of rectified with that,
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but they haven't rectified it with their inner child. They
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might have rectified it in their adult brain, but it's like, well,
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that's not what we're really talking about, because this stuff
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started at a very young and you might have gotten
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over it or realized now as an adult what was
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really going on and then you know kind of give
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in the benefit of the doubt and what have you,
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But that wasn't there back when this self limiting belief
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was like, you know, concreted into your brain or belief system.
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Yeah. Yeah, and that's right, And you know, as adults
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we can we can understand what was going on, but
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the reasons why clients are coming to therapy is generally
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because there something isn't working, something is triggering them. They're
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having emotions that they don't quite understand, some anxiety, depression,
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relationship issues. And what they don't get is that because
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they have that belief, which supplement can also be a
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subconscious belief right that I'm unlovable, I'm unworthy, I'm not
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good enough. Even though you understood what happens, the program
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running in the back of the mind that's automatic in
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the background is I'm un level. Well, I'm unworthy, and
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so you're feeling sad, you're feeling anxious, things aren't working out,
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and that's because the subconscious is running the show, not
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currently what you rationally know is true, right.
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Very true, and it really contributes to issues throughout someone's life.
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And exactly because it goes from one, It originates from
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one and then goes to the other. And it's interesting,
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I'm sure you see that when somebody comes in and
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you know they're they're having an issue, you know, with
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their current relationship, where it's been multiple relationships kind of
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a pattern, how do you begin to kind of point
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that out and go back to you know, being able
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to explore you know, the possible you know, belief system
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that originated or the childhood trauma that contributed to this
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specific situation.
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Yeah, so I.
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Have a pretty specific formula that I follow, and let's
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just take that you of coming in because of relationship issues,
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you know, and we might say someone might come in
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and they want to explore their attachment style per se.
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You know, say someone has an anxious attachment style and
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feels very needy and never really feels like they get
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their needs met in a relationship and it's never enough
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and they always want closeness. Yet people seem to pull
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away and maybe they've gone through a breakup. You know,
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there are a lot of pain coming to therapy trying.
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To figure out how to cope with it.
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Well, we'll start with the triggering event. Let them explain
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what's going on current day, and the next step is
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going to really really explore the feelings that are happening.
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Because what is happening and where that original fracture is
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is that when they were children and having the feelings,
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there was no one there to help them identify and
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metabolize and understand the feelings. So current day people are
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working from this traumatized state having an emotional response that
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they're you know, six, seven, eight year old would have.
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It feels very big, it feels very overwhelming, very scary,
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and they don't know about the emotions and how they work.
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So we'll talk about what the actual emotions are and
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where they feel them in the body and really get
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them used to saying, Okay, I'm having an emotion of shame,
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of abandonment, of sadness and grief, and really talk to
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them about what that is. We will then go into what.
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Are the thoughts that are associated with.
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The feelings when they're deep down in them. So, say
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someone's recovering from a breakup and they're feeling so hopeful,
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so sad, really anxious. They might drive I'm unlovable, I'm
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going to be alone forever, nobody wants me, nobody loves me.
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And then I'll talk to them about the actions that
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they take when they're in these emotions. So, as children,
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we get in the habit of not feeling our emotions
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because the adults really don't understand it around us, and
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we pick up things like self soothing behaviors, drugs, alcohol, shopping, sex,
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getting busy, being perfect, producing all kinds of things that
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we do to not feel our feelings once we have
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the feeling, what the action is that we do that
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keeps us from feeling the feeling, and what the self
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woman beliefs are. We go back, we regress in to
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the timeline of the inner child, and I go back
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with the client and we talk to the child about
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what these emotions are, what they felt at the time,
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what the situation was, Teach them that an emotion is normal,
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what it is, that it doesn't last forever, that it's safe,
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that it only lasts for about three to seven minutes.
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Hopefully we can talk to them and actually get them
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to feel the emotion and let it metabolize out of
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the body, and then reassure them that this is an
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ongoing relationship and that anytime that they have an emotion,
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we're going to sit with them and talk to them
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and love them and give them unconditional love and attention
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so that they are safe to have that emotion. And
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what that does is that when the inner child is
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able to release that the person current day therapy is
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as well, and the emotion is unlodged out of their
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body and they're more free to feel the emotions of
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love and peace and joy instead of grief and sadness
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and fear.
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That's very powerful and we'll be returning back in just
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a few minutes, and so stay tuned, don't change the channel,
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and Lee is going to continue to talk about this
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because this is some powerful work that can really help to,
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you know, get rid of those types of emotions, the
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types of feelings, and put us on the right track.
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So stay tuned livery True Life Perspectives with your host
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me Astley Burgers will be back in. I'll be back
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this time. You know it. I'll be back this time.