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You're in a good place now you are listening to
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Perspectives with Ashley Burgess. Welcome back to the Ashley Burgess Podcast.
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Let's talk about discernment today. I think it's a very
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important word. It's something that we need to adapt into
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our lifestyle. And I want to give one caveat prior
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to jumping in. I agree that judgment of other people
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is not a good thing. It's not something you want
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to go around doing, putting other people down, being petty,
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judging them. It's just not good because it doesn't help
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you in any way. It doesn't make your life better
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in any way. If anything, it just gets in the
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way of your quality of life and it takes up
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time when you could actually be doing something in your
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life to push your life forward in a more positive way. However,
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discernment is very important when you're dealing with certain people.
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And those specific people I'm talking about are the people
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that that you connect as your best friends, the people
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that you trust with everything, the people you tell them everything.
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That's one group that you need to have discernment. Another
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group is the person that you end up having a
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romantic sexual relationship with need to have discernment and The
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last group that you need to have discernment with are
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people that you go into business with, people that you
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start companies with. You need to have discernment because you're
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gonna be working with them. You have to like their ethics,
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their morals, the way that they present themselves, all those
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types of things, and lifestyle as well, because remember, if
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somebody's lifestyle is not the same as yours, as far
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as you know, they're not getting sleep, they're not taking
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care of themselves, maybe they're using drugs or alcohol. That
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could be a problem on the bottom line when it
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comes to business success. And so discernment when we look
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at multiple definitions, first is the ability to judge well,
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and again I don't like that word because I don't
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think discernment is judgment. I think it's about seeing things
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in a clear way. Another definition is the perception in
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the absence of judgment and able to view to obtain
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a spiritual guidance or understanding about a specific relationship. And
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this is tough because we're not talking about like these easy, breezy,
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you know, simple type situations. We're talking about very complex,
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very complex relationships. Very complex because a deep relationship that
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you've had with somebody for a very long time is
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not simple. Okay, There's lots of details, there's lots of
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moving parts, there's lots of things. There's past, present, future,
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there's their past history, your past history.
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All these things go into it.
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And so in order to really have a clarity of
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mine about the relationship, we have to take many things
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into account. We have to have the ability to see
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to understand, and that also takes like a non judgmental piece,
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because you have to be able to see things without
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being colored a certain way. Like so, you know a
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lot of our relationships, whether it's a really long term
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friendship you really care about somebody it's been in your
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life for a long time, or a romantic relationship. You
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know both of those relationships. Especially when you've known somebody
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for a very long time, it can be challenging to
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see the situation clearly sometimes because you're listening to that
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person tell you how they feel or what they're doing,
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and sometimes that could be honest, sometimes that could be biased,
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and sometimes that could be a straight up lie. And
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it's very hard to understand things because remember it, sometimes
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when people lie to us, they're not just lying to us,
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they're also lying to themselves, okay, And that's one of
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the hardest things that I think humans have trouble, especially
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when there's not a lot of self awareness. They're lacking
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self awareness, or there's some sort of impairment as far
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as learning impairment or alcohol or drug impairment that gets
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in the way of them really being able to connect
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with their feelings, emotions, true needs, true desires, true things,
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and being honest, because sometimes that person may not even
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be honest with.
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Themselves, which is really hard to have.
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Discernment because you know, it's one thing to be able
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to see things and to take everything in consideration, not
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expecting something, not assuming something, being able to see things
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more clearly, stepping back from judgment. Having all that, that's
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very important in order to be able to make wise decisions.
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We have to also recognize like subtle differences or subtle
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aspects that.
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Don't seem to add up.
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In a lot of these relationships, there'll be things that
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you don't understand, things that don't add up, things that
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don't make sense. You know, it's like the you know,
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it's like the dangling thing out there. It's dangling out
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there in the wind. We don't really understand what it means.
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And it's interesting when you've had situations where people are
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talking about things and you don't really get it and
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you don't really understand and you don't really see what
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it is, and then eventually somebody says something and you
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put all the pieces of the puzzle together and you go, oh,
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my god, that makes perfect sense. But it's hard because
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when you don't have all the information, it's exactly right.
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You don't have all the information, you can't make a decision.
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And and it's hard to being able to make a
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wise decision when you're dealing with someone that may or
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may not be being honest with themselves. And that is
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a very hard thing to discern. And I think discernment
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is one of the most important things you could possibly
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have right now. I've met some people in the last
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few years where my gut instinct, in the very beginning,
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my gut instinct was to watch out, to leave, to
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move on, okay, And I remember questioning, oh, you know,
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I'm making a snap judgment, what have you? But I've
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realized that gut to some degree is right as long
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as it's not clouded with other people's decisions, with other
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people's judgments. See the problem that a lot of people
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have is they get their information or they don't even
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realize they're getting information, but they're being told stuff from
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someone that has an agenda okay. And so this is
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one of the biggest aspects is looking at everyone's agenda
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in the situation. So I've realized that when someone comes
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to me about somebody and says something, okay, I'll listen,
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but I always find it interesting because I wonder why
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this is said. Okay, what's the purpose of telling me?
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What am I supposed to feel from it? Do they
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want me to feel a certain way if this really happened,
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Did it really happen? Did this situation really take place?
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Because usually they're offering you a negative thing that somebody
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has done, okay, and you're having to kind of accept that.
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And I think one of the most foolish things that
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we can do is is hear those types of things
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and to immediately take sides. I find that that's a
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really not a good thing to do, because when you
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take sides, sometimes you're taking the wrong side. Sometimes you
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need to be out of it. It has nothing to absolutely
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do with you. All you do is you create more
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havoc in your life because you're taking a side that
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you don't need to take, okay, and that that's something
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that you got to be really careful with. And so
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I've realized that if somebody comes to me about some
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sort of gossip, especially when I'm not asking for it, one,
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it's not solidicially, you know, it's not solicitated.
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I don't really want it.
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It's not it's not like I'm you know, it's not
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like I'm like, oh, I really want this gossip. It's like, okay,
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this came out of nowhere. Why am I being told this?
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Or I also watch out when somebody is constantly talking
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about somebody else constantly in a negative format. Uh, I
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know that that person's wanting means to not like that person,
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and a lot of people will take that side. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I don't like so and so. We don't really even
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know so and so at all. So anyway, so it's
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interesting you'll find that in a lot of narcissistic type people,
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where they try to turn people on other people to
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create these other people and triangulate these other people to
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create this nasty dynamic. So nobody is really watching what
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the narcissist is doing the nar is getting away with
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all this stuff, triangulating, you know, having fighting amongst everybody,
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getting their way with this person in that, changing the
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conversation over here, lying to this person over there, getting
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this person to.
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Believe this lie.
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So you know, they're they're trying to keep everybody at
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bay anyway, because they don't want anybody talking, right that.
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You know, narcissists are great about triangulating. They love to
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triangulate people, right, because that's what they do is they'll
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have stuff going on over there, and if you try
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to get the information or the honest truth, they're not
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going to give it to you. They're gonna also make
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you look bad to the people that they're trying to
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triangulate you with, so that those other people don't want
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to talk to you. They don't want to have a
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conversation with you. They see you as the enemy, they
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see you as the threat, and you've been made out
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to be that way, you see.
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And again this is.
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Important to have discernment because sometimes, and it's very interesting,
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It's happened to me a couple of times in my
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life where somebody said something about me and I can
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remember the last time, very very well. And uh, they
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said that I was against a group of people, which
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I'm definitely not. And they said that to somebody when,
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you know, and then that person took it and went
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with it. And then later on it was I didn't
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say anything to them. I let them go along with
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whatever they thought. I'm not going to care what they
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think about me. They're not paying needed for that. I
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don't care. And they came and when this particular person
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came up to me two years later and apologized to
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me and apologized and told me exactly what had happened.
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And sometimes it can take years.
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Sometimes it can take a lifetime, you know, because if
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somebody's making you out to be mud, a lot of
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people just jump on that bandwagon because that's just a
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lot a lot of people want, don't have any discernment
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at all. And two, a lot of people love the
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concept of being a flying monkey. They love to serve
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the narcissist, and you know, they just kind of fly around,
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and the narcissist loves it because then they play the
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victim with everybody, you know, the damsel in distress, whether
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it's a man or a woman, and gay or straight,
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they'll play this damsel in distress, and so you have
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to be very well all the kind of the moving parts.
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I've realized that some of the biggest aspects of life
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is noticing the very fine, small details, and that's very
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discerning to look at the fine details, especially in very
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complex and i'd call these hyper complex situations. So the
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more complex the situation is, the more details there are,
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the more details there are, the more data points there are,
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the more data points there are, the more you can
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connect the dots. It's a very interesting dynamic and you
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also have to be very super aware. My advice to
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have complete discernment is, you know, stop smoking, we stop
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drinking a bunch of alcohol, don't do any other drugs,
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be careful what you take, watch out for pharmaceuticals. You
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need to be on your p's and ques. If you
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want to have actual discernment, you gotta have clarity. I mean,
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people underestimate clarity all day long. And it's funny because
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you find people that are that are so abusive of
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pharmaceuticals or drugs or alcohol, they actually believe their nonsense.
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They believe their truth, they believe their falsehood, they believe
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they're manufactured falsehood to be true. They believe it, and
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I find that very interesting and say they'll go to
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their death over this falsehood that is not true. And
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so being able to see things clearly, because if you're
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having a lot to drink, if you're out of control,
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if you're on a bunch of pharmaceuticals that are changing
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your brain chemistry, if you're on illegal drugs changing your
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brain chemistry, if you're on a combination of all three
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or four, yes, you're not going to have any discernment,
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and you might make judgment because there's a big difference
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between judgment and discernment.
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You might make a judgment.
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It's not judgment about somebody because you're in a bad
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mood or you feel funny, because it's really the drugs
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that are impacting.
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You're not really understanding what's really happening.
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That can be a very interesting dynamic in its own
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And so that's why you have to be careful. When
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I'm trying to explain discernment to my clients, I said,
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first of all, we have to have clear head, we
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have to have clarity, and it can't just be for
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one day, can't just be for one week. This has
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to be a lie. This has to be a chosen
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lifestyle and maybe you quit drinking a year ago. Whatever,
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that's great, go on, go for it. But you have
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to have clarity because these complex, hyper complex situations that
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are really hard to put in a perspective and to