Non-Invasive Fat Melting and Muscle Stimulation - Part 2 | Dr Mike Cheng - NeoScuplt - Ep 158

0:02 Dr Steve: Okay, alright. Dr Steve: So let me close that and Dr Steve: alright. So let me just kind of count down. We'll get right into it. Dr Steve: 3, 2 -oh disappeared. Dr. Mike Cheng: Sorry. Dr. Mike Cheng: Alright! Dr. Mike Cheng: Some background noise in the back, so I'm good to go. Dr Steve: Yeah. Dr Steve: okay, hey, everybody.

0:43 Dr Steve: Dr. Steve Green. Here, this is the make, the great experience. Podcast we're talking about all things that contribute to success to contribute to your positive mindset, to contribute helping you reach your goals Dr Steve: today. We're going to include in that your wellness, your health, your physical well-being, your mental well-being because you could make an argument. If that isn't in place. Dr Steve: If you're ill or you're in pain, or you're just uncomfortable, or you're just off kilter. It's going to affect all the other things. Your mental can absolutely affect your physical. I firmly believe that. Dr Steve: So we're gonna we have a special guest today I always get excited about Guest, Dr. Michael Chang.

1:26 Dr Steve: Dr. Mike, how are you. Dr. Mike Cheng: I'm doing. Great Dr. Steve, how are you. Dr Steve: It's a beautiful day. It's a little cold. We are both in the Dr Steve: Philadelphia area. It's like it might even be below 10. It's like really cold for us here, but it's hot and toasty where I am. Why don't you give a little bit of a background like in a little bit. How'd you get to where you are today? I know you've been a chiropractor many years, a very successful one, a very good one. I in full disclosure. I use Mike as my personal chiropractor, and I, you know I'll just say I've had a positive experience. So tell us a little bit about yourself. Dr Steve: I know you're from beautiful Kansas City or Kansas at least, but I'll let you take it from there.

2:11 Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah. So I was born and raised in Taiwan and moved to the United States with my parents when I was 12, Dr. Mike Cheng: and we lived in the Kansas City area. My parents are still there, but I moved here in 2,002, Dr. Mike Cheng: decided to become a chiropractor because of my own personal back problems that I had when I was 15, after a basketball injury, and then that kind of steer me towards finding the solution for my back without drugs and surgery and chiropractic. Was that solution, so that inspired me to become a chiropractor, to help those who are suffering with the same type of pain or injuries that I had. So I've been practiced for about 21 years now in the Philadelphia area.

2:56 Dr Steve: What would you say is your main motivation? I'm sure you have maybe even countless number of patients, but I'm sure they all have different Dr Steve: ailments. But is there some commonality? Is there? Dr Steve: You know your philosophy on Chiropractic? I know there's sort of different schools of it, so to speak, but. Dr. Mike Cheng: Well, you know, in my philosophy, you know, the body has the ability to heal. If you allow the body to do what it needs to do, and the central nervous system controls everything in your body. So it's like, you know, Dr. Mike Cheng: breakers in your light, in your panels in your house. If some type of power outage happens, the breakers off, then that power from you know the source going to wherever it needs to go is shut off. So to some extent the nervous system is kind of like that, you know. You've got to find the area where there's a misalignment of some sort that shuts off the nerve Dr. Mike Cheng: signal to that end location. So we have to realign it to restore that power. That's Dr. Mike Cheng: the best analogy I can give you.

4:00 Dr Steve: Like that. So it's it's your wiring literally. Right? Dr Steve: So let's let's talk about your new toy. I happen to have a little secret here I got some insider info. Dr. Mike Cheng: Good. Dr Steve: Mike has brought into his office a new device that may literally change some people's lives, maybe a lot of people's lives. It's not brand new. He didn't invent it. But I think it's got some really exciting potentials. And really, we're going to focus today on this. So what's the exact name of this device. What does it do? Dr Steve: And who do you think would benefit from it? Dr. Mike Cheng: This device is called enscope neo and Dr Steve: Got it.

4:41 Dr. Mike Cheng: It was designed and put together, I believe, in Dr. Mike Cheng: You know, way off the top of my head. It's a Eastern European country. Dr. Mike Cheng: I'll think of that when I get there, I think might be Croatia. Dr. Mike Cheng: And you know it's been used around quite a bit, I would say, for the last Dr. Mike Cheng: 5 to 10 years at least. But I recently Dr. Mike Cheng: stumble upon it. Went to a a great conference, met a lot of doctors. Dr. Mike Cheng: Exactly. You know what it. What you can do is it can literally melt fat in stubborn areas and increase muscles in hard to, you know, hard to exercise regions in your body Dr. Mike Cheng: in a very short period of time. So you know, people around this time of year, they, wanna you know, get back to the gym and start their fitness journey on some level, and this could potentially jump. Start that, or people who can't exercise due to, you know, some type of injuries they had, and this can also help with that, either to improve range of motion or restore functionality.

5:51 Dr Steve: What Dr Steve: How does this work so is this something somebody wears? Is this something you would administer as as a health, professional. Dr. Mike Cheng: So. Dr Steve: It, take. Dr. Mike Cheng: This can be done only in a professional's office. It is a device Dr. Mike Cheng: in which we put these applicators on whichever body part you want us to improve upon. And it's a 30 min session, and it's non-invasive. Dr. Mike Cheng: I don't want to say it's painless, but you definitely feel certain type of intensity through the treatment. Dr. Mike Cheng: But there's no blood, there's no needles of any kind.

6:32 Dr. Mike Cheng: There's no downtime afterwards, that's another plus. So we say it takes about 4 to 6 sessions for you to see the optimal results in about 90 days, because the body needs to absorb the fat, to excrete from your system and also Dr. Mike Cheng: get the muscles underneath to come up. Come, come up above the fat, where you know you can see more visibly. So essentially 90 day period 4 to 6 sessions is the optimal time for people to see some type of result. Dr Steve: And this would mimic or replace what type of maybe surgical or more invasive medical procedure. Dr. Mike Cheng: Well, I think the most obvious is any type of liposuction.

7:16 Dr. Mike Cheng: you know plastic surgery of any kind, at least on the body, to improve the appearance. Nice. Dr Steve: Which is definitely a lot more. Dr. Mike Cheng: Of course. Dr Steve: Invasive for sure. Well, you know you have to, you know. Well, maybe you don't know. You know anything natural is not a quick fix. You know it's not taking a pill. It's not. It's enabling your body to recenter and balance. Dr Steve: and and then and and then your natural healing can can come into the forefront more. Dr Steve: I can tell you. As part of my research. You know, I always research these things. I have had a couple sessions. It's really very. I found it very relaxing. It pretty much is laying on a treatment table kind of going for about a half hour.

8:01 Dr Steve: and you can feel a benefit the next couple days, for sure. And I think it's more lasting. Dr Steve: Is is this something that Dr Steve: I mean, how many of these treatments are done like nationally. Is there any statistic of Dr Steve: proof of concept? Is there? Is there any like? There's been a thousand cases, and 996 reported. You know, X number of each is lost because everybody. Let's let's be. Let's let's face the truth here, Mike. Dr Steve: everybody wants the results, but not. Everybody's willing to do the work to get it right. Everybody wants the quick fix. So talk a little bit about you know. What's the bottom line? What can people expect in terms of maybe something more measurable, like inches of loss or Dr Steve: body tone? Something along.

8:47 Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, I think, it's there's there's definitely, you know, fat loss by about 30%, Dr. Mike Cheng: maybe 20 plus 25% plus in muscle masking, and I mean the the company even went as far as taking biopsies in the muscles, and then look under microscope to see if it actually increased in size. Dr. Mike Cheng: So you know something that's measurable. But in terms of, you know, a layman, you know, we take preferably a before picture and an after picture, and after, you know, 4 to 6 sessions. So people can actually see some type of visible difference Dr. Mike Cheng: on their body. Dr. Mike Cheng: you know, in terms of how many cases have been done. I think thousands, because I think nationwide. And this is around, you know, not just in this country. But I think 70 other countries around the world.

9:38 Dr Steve: Okay. Dr. Mike Cheng: They're using this technology. So I know, at least in the United States Dr. Mike Cheng: there have been, I think, you know, 1415 at least clinical studies that has been done on this particular device Dr. Mike Cheng: in the last year or 2, just to see. Dr Steve: Was there any like exhaustive training you had to do to? I mean to be able to. I know you obviously have a you know the degree you have a lot of education. I happen to know. Mike's also a certified MRI technician. Is that correct? Right? Dr. Mike Cheng: That's correct. Dr Steve: So this is somebody who's invested a lot of time in his own education and professional development to his credit. So I assume you have whatever credentials are needed. You know this is not like, where do I put this thing? So you got any show and tell, is there anything you can show us.

10:27 Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, I do have a little presentation. I kind of just give people a little gist. Dr Steve: So those of you in video land are going to actually see what Mike's going to show those of you in audio land. I will try to do a little synopsis, but you should be able to share the screen. Let's see what we got. Dr. Mike Cheng: Okay, give me one second. Here. Dr Steve: And while you're loading it up, Mike, if somebody. So by the way, this is Steve Green, Dr. Steve, this is the make the great experience. Podcast, we have our guest today, Dr. Michael Chang, chiropractor extraordinaire. He's got his new device, which helps change your body composition, reduce fat tone muscle. And here comes the share, Mike, real quick. How would somebody get a hold of you if they want to learn more about this just in case they're short on time listening.

11:09 Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, sure, they can call my office. (215) 443-5626, and we can set up a 15 min free console, and even a 5 min free demo, or they can visit my website for more information www, dot DRMI, KECH, eng.com. We're we're currently updating our website as we speak as well. Dr Steve: We go, and we'll put that into the show notes as well. So those of you who are listening Mike started a slideshow advanced and innovative technology for body contouring and performance. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yes. Dr Steve: Go on, let's see. Dr. Mike Cheng: All right. So this is the this is the actual device it looks like, I don't know. Ice cream.

11:51 Dr. Mike Cheng: Okay, yeah. It looks, it does look kind of like an ice cream dispenser. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, yeah. Dr Steve: That has the opposite, but as the completely opposite effect of your body. Dr. Mike Cheng: But it does 2 things here. It uses what's called radio frequency. Rf, to heat up the fat. That's, you know, right below the dermis, the epidermis, the skin, and then uses what's called a hyphemer, which is a high intensity, focused electromagnetic energy. Dr Steve: So you got. Dr. Mike Cheng: The most. Dr Steve: Driving. Okay. Dr. Mike Cheng: All this in 30 min session. Okay? Dr. Mike Cheng: It is. Dr Steve: Let me add one thing for those people who may have had a treatment if you ever had like a tens, that's what's called like tens. You know one of these things where they put these kind of pads on you, and it forces your muscles to contract or to vibrate. It's a very similar feeling. I'm not sure if it's the same technology. So you have radio frequencies hitting the fat.

12:41 Dr Steve: You've got another vibration stimulating the muscles at the same time. So here we go. M. Scope is cleared by the FDA. That's important. So some people that know what they're talking about have looked at this to do? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 things tell us about it. Dr. Mike Cheng: So it can break down the fat called lipolysis of the, you know stomach area and your thighs, so you can help reduce the circumference of those regions, you can improve the tone strengthening of the abdominal muscles to develop more firmer. You know musculature underneath. So even postnatal patients who has had babies, or even had C-sections, this might be able to help them. Dr Steve: Okay.

13:21 Dr. Mike Cheng: And you can, you know, look at different body parts where you can firm up the buttocks, the thighs, the calves, the arms so overall. You know any part of your body that is, you know, not exactly where you like to be in terms of the firmness Dr. Mike Cheng: this can help and also decrease the fat on top of it. Dr Steve: So we're looking at. I think the most. Maybe I don't know. I'm going to guess. Maybe the most common complaint from people is their abdomen. Dr. Mike Cheng: That's correct. Dr Steve: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Close second would be your your waist. I use that term non medical thighs backside calves. Like I. This isn't there something you're gonna do like on your leg, or something?

14:04 Dr. Mike Cheng: Under arms, too, you know. Dr Steve: Oh, oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, I forget what there is, I think women call them, which I can't remember. Dr. Mike Cheng: Ice area. Dr Steve: There we go. So Dr Steve: yeah, is there any situation where this is? Counter? Oh, here we go, I was gonna say, is it counterindicated, and he's got a counterindicated slide here. So go ahead. Dr. Mike Cheng: So very interesting enough. You know I work in an MRI environment quite often, and before anybody goes in to have an MRI, we usually have these safety questions to make sure there's nothing inside of them that's either metallic electronic that could interfere during the procedure that can affect their health. So anybody with some type of pacemaker, defibrillator, stimulator, any type of metal implants drug pumps.

14:51 Dr. Mike Cheng: We pretty much say you're not a candidate for this type of procedure. Dr. Mike Cheng: And a lot of times. These people can't get MRI either. Dr. Mike Cheng: Anybody with any type of you know tumors. Some type of Dr. Mike Cheng: lacerations. Some type of, you know, contagious skin problems. Dr. Mike Cheng: Anybody who is pregnant. We usually say, you know, this is not the time for you Dr. Mike Cheng: now. Somebody who has had a baby or whatnot. Usually, we say, you know, maybe 6 months after you deliver, because, you know, usually you're still nursing. So we wanna make sure it doesn't interfere with any part of what you're trying to do.

15:33 Dr Steve: Let me ask you this question. Let's say somebody was not necessarily Dr Steve: even overweight. Would this also have, like a toning. Dr. Mike Cheng: Absolutely. Dr. Mike Cheng: So there's positives. This is not limited simply to a. Dr Steve: I don't know if this is the way you would present it, but like a weight, loss, body, sculpting sort of process. This could also be kind of in the sort of other direction, a positive toning, strengthening. Dr. Mike Cheng: The toning, strengthening, the improving in terms of function and performance depending on. If you're an athlete or whatnot which we'll talk about a little later in my presentation, so. Dr Steve: There you go! Dr. Mike Cheng: We have. Dr Steve: I remember, like 6, 8 years ago, I fell off my bike and hurt my elbow, and had to do these exercises just with my one arm.

16:22 Dr Steve: and I'm wondering if something like this might have accelerated that. Okay, keep going. Keep going. This is good. I want to be a little bit mindful of time. But go ahead. So technology. Dr. Mike Cheng: So technology. So these are the the paddles or applicators that actually goes on the the the affected area that we want you to, you know. Put this on to treat so like I said. It has the synchronized radio frequency that melts the fat, and then the hyphen paddle. So this, this is literally inside this circular Dr. Mike Cheng: region that emits this frequency. Okay, so Dr. Mike Cheng: as you can see, fat has the highest resistance. So it accumulates heat, and this paddle penetrates through Dr. Mike Cheng: the dermis layer, which is the skin into the fat and the muscle underneath.

17:11 Dr. Mike Cheng: and depending on how much fat you have. Obviously it might take longer time to melt that. But ideally, we want to melt the fat which destroys the fat. The cellular wall in the fat cells, and eventually, you know, it shrinks the actual fat through time. So Dr. Mike Cheng: this is kind of like, give you a breakdown exactly what the actual skin and fat and muscle layer looks like in the cross section. Okay? And Dr. Mike Cheng: if we look at the actual application. Dr Steve: Just for those of you who can't see this in the picture. Mike's showing. There's the skin layer, then the fat is next, and then below that would be the muscle.

17:56 Dr. Mike Cheng: That's correct. Dr Steve: And I assume that's consistent in all areas of the body. So this device, which looks kind of almost like a big ping pong, almost like a pickleball paddle. Ish has the strength to penetrate into the fat Dr Steve: through the fact that. Dr. Mike Cheng: In the most. Dr Steve: Well with with the different types of transmissions Dr Steve: into the muscle. So you're getting a dual benefit. Dr Steve: And when you say, melt the fat, you're not talking like putting on a frying pan and. Dr. Mike Cheng: No, no. But what happens is with the radio frequency, the Rf, it's literally raising the temperature Dr. Mike Cheng: in those fat cells which then eventually destroys the cell wall. So there's another common type of Dr. Mike Cheng: contouring method called cool sculpting where they actually freeze your freeze, your fat.

18:48 Dr. Mike Cheng: We're actually doing the opposite. We're melting it. That's why I'm using that term. We're heating up the cells Dr. Mike Cheng: to destroy the cell wall. Dr. Mike Cheng: Okay? And in return we can get faster results. As a result of this particular application by melting the fat and increasing the muscle underneath. So most we don't even realize this when you do some type of exercise, and you do some type of cardio. Dr. Mike Cheng: Cardio actually only burns calories in your body. But if you want to burn fat, essentially, you have to work the muscles because the muscles is the one that actually burns the fat by raising metabolism. Dr. Mike Cheng: So in essence, this particular session treatment, we can burn the fat while increasing the muscle volume. So afterwards your muscles continue to grow, which continues to, you know, burn the fat that's on top of it.

19:42 Dr Steve: So I'm just going to read off Dr. Mike screen here. This treatment. Dr. Mike Cheng: It's the equivalent of 20,000. Dr Steve: Muscle contractions in a 30 min session. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah. Dr Steve: Produces. Here's a good word for everybody, supramaximal contraction Dr Steve: which surpasses voluntary contraction. So if I'm interpreting this correctly, it's kind of like, if you're putting on somebody's stomach area. It's like they're doing 20,000 sit-ups in a half hour. Dr Steve: So it'd be like you took a video. Then you put it on like 10 x and a super maximal. That's probably pretty serious. So what it's basically saying is, this would be stronger like if you went, sat there and went. Oh, track my muscles as hard as I can. It's even more than that's even possible in your own sort of pushing it. Sense.

20:30 Dr. Mike Cheng: Correct. This is beautiful. Dr. Mike Cheng: What your body can actually do. Dr Steve: So I guess it would lead to the let me ask you this. I'm not sure any more slides you have. We'll get through them. But if somebody's sitting there going, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is just another device is, once a week, enough is 6 times enough to have a sustained effect, and I think part B of that question would be, there's got to be at least a little bit of lifestyle right like. If somebody could come into your office, have this treatment, and go eat 2 gallons of haagen-dazs. You can't complain if it doesn't work as well as it could. Dr. Mike Cheng: So there's got to be some type of nutrition plan with regards to what we're doing here, because you got to eventually watch what you're intaking while we're doing this treatment to get the maximum effect in the shortest time. Now, obviously, the goal is to promote wellness. So we want to get people to Dr. Mike Cheng: do certain things to change what they're doing. So this way they can affect their health better overall. This is just another, I guess a life hack that we can help them speed up that process Dr. Mike Cheng: essentially so.

21:35 Dr Steve: Well, there's no secret this. We're not here to talk about our national health concerns, but I think it's maybe even common knowledge. There's a high level of obesity, a high level of people just in less than optimal health. All right, let's keep going here. Let's keep going. So if you have any questions, you know, and you listen to this. Absolutely put them in the comments you know, going to know how to reach Mike. So here is he's going to talk about sort of the actual application. So there's a thermal sensor. Dr. Mike Cheng: So this sensor is actually gonna detect what the body skin temperature is. So you know, as I said earlier, we want to make sure this is done safely Dr. Mike Cheng: while this is on your skin. So this makes sure it doesn't burn anyone as we heat up this fat underneath. Okay? And essentially, you know, we want to make sure it gets to certain temperature to actually do the effectiveness of what we're trying to do here, which is, note the fat. So 43°C is what this paddle needs to get to. And this sensor is what sense that temperature, so nobody ever can say I got burned one. Now, now, also, during the treatment.

22:44 Dr. Mike Cheng: you know, either myself or one of my, you know, assistants will be coming to make sure the patient is in a comfortable setting. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, that that I can. I can. I can confirm so 43°C, for that is that for those of you aren't metric, savvy is, I'm gonna say, about a hundred 5 Fahrenheit plus or minus. Dr Steve: I know. I know this. I know 37. Celsius is 98, because over 30. That's like your body temperature. All right. Here we go the thermal profile, so your fat heats up to like over 100 degrees. The muscles may be, the fats may be like 100 203, the fats maybe 100, the muscles a little bit cooler. So the combination is it heating up because it's contracting like, like, you know. Like, if you go running, you're going to generate heat right.

23:32 Dr. Mike Cheng: Correct. Correct? Well, also, you're getting more blood flow, you know, circulation. So yeah, so essentially, we're increasing the body temperature by heating up the fat cells while stimulating the muscles underneath. Dr. Mike Cheng: So it's really doing all that. Dr Steve: Yeah, right? Right? Right? I think that's important. That people understand is, you have a double effect here which probably has a 3rd sort of synergistic combined effect. Dr. Mike Cheng: Absolutely, absolutely. So once it gets the desired temperature, you kind of just space in that area to make sure it has that constant effect Dr. Mike Cheng: to get the most amount of fat loss Dr. Mike Cheng: doing this procedure. Okay? And while we continue to contract the muscles, but the contraction is not continuous, it stops, so the muscles doesn't go into what's called involuntary contraction, or spasms.

24:21 Dr Steve: Like a cramp, almost. Dr. Mike Cheng: You don't want anybody to have a cram when this is happening. Dr. Mike Cheng: So essentially, it's in a temperature control environment. We definitely heat up the tissues, you know, within 4 min, and then it detects what the body is saying. So it doesn't overheat your body underneath your skin. So it really does. You know all these things simultaneously, while the patient's laying on their back Dr. Mike Cheng: in a comfortable position. Dr Steve: This is all the safety. Go back to the slide before. For one second I want to give everybody a vocabulary word here. Dr Steve: because we are about education. A little bit right. Dr Steve: I hope I'm saying this right apoptosis apoptosis.

25:01 Dr. Mike Cheng: That's that's cool. Dr Steve: So that's I'm going to say that's a fancy word for fat burning. Right? Dr Steve: So you go. Everybody don't say you learned something today. Apoptosis apoptosis. All right, let's keep going. Let's keep going. Dr. Mike Cheng: Alright. So essentially, this is kind of the visual what we're looking at. Dr. Mike Cheng: There we go drinking the fat cells from this blob into little raisins. Dr. Mike Cheng: That's exactly what's doing. So this takes time. But at the same time, that's what's happening underneath the skin. Okay. Dr Steve: And if you couldn't see the picture, basically, it's showing a fat cell, that's, let's say, the size of a grapefruit shrinking to about an orange down to like a like a.

25:44 Dr. Mike Cheng: A raisin. Dr. Mike Cheng: So this particular treatment is faster than what you could do, potentially at a gym. Dr. Mike Cheng: You know, from 12 to 16 weeks resistance. We can literally decrease that to maybe 4 to 6 sessions on a weekly basis. Okay. Dr Steve: Everybody wants easy. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, what's easier? Laying on a table. Dr Steve: You know, putting a temperature control thing on your area of concern. Dr Steve: And 12 weeks later you're looking like Charles Atlas or Dr Steve: Raquel Welsh, or whoever not to date myself. Dr Steve: So there you go. You got the fat decrease which everybody wants muscle mass increase which everybody wants. Maybe I'd say most people want to lose fat. They kind of forget, because in the long run the increased muscle maintains your higher metabolic profile right? So by increasing muscle over the long run. You're going to be burning more fat because you have more muscle. You got a bigger motor, so to speak, when I hired my personal trainer, anyway. Keep going. Keep going.

26:44 Dr. Mike Cheng: Alright, so. Dr Steve: Clinical Studies. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah. So 15 new clinical studies, more than 50 clinical investigators, you know, using this hyphen technology, we have 30% fat reduction at 3 months, 25% muscle growth at 3 months. Dr Steve: Nice. Dr. Mike Cheng: The abdominal area. We have 9, 19 minus 19% abdominal separation, which means the muscles are starting to break and actually have more definition, and then about 6 cm of Dr. Mike Cheng: circumference decrease around your waist, which is. Dr Steve: You quantify this 30% fat reduction? Well.

27:24 Dr Steve: what would that sort of translate into saying inches or pounds? Is it. Dr. Mike Cheng: Let's say 2 or 3 inches, maybe depending on the person's starting weight. Dr Steve: Okay. Dr. Mike Cheng: 3 to 4 pounds at least. Dr Steve: Of fat, like just pure fat. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, so. Dr Steve: Isn't like water weight loss where? Yeah, I lost 6 pounds, and I go drink a couple glasses of water, and I only lost 2 pounds. Dr Steve: nice. Well, listen. What's not to like? Here we go. So now we got Dr. Mike Cheng: What's that help with pain? Yeah. Dr. Mike Cheng: So like you were saying, you fell off your elbow. So people who do physical therapy may or may not achieve the, you know, optimal results say 8 to 12 weeks. But you know, with this, this can also get to those numbers, you know, in a faster time, you know, or people who done physical therapy and get better. This is something that we can do on top of what they've been doing, because we can increase the strength of the muscles if they couldn't do it before or on themselves.

28:23 Dr Steve: And then. Dr. Mike Cheng: Increased range of motion which most people want to move better when they're feeling better Dr. Mike Cheng: and overall retrain the muscles. So the muscles have memory in the right direction. Okay, so these are just 2 doctors. One's a neurosurgeon. One's an orthopedic surgeon on what this machine has helped their patients Dr. Mike Cheng: since they start using this into practice. So Dr. Mike Cheng: oh, so here's a very famous athlete. Dr Steve: Yeah, you're right. Well, at least in Philadelphia. But yeah. So who tell us who this is? Mike? Dr Steve: Well, if you watched this weekend's game with the Philadelphia eagles against the rams. This is Saquon Barkley, which Dr Steve: is him. Are you kind of young Dr Steve: looking? Say, quantity. He's like a 20 snack.

29:08 Dr. Mike Cheng: There's a go. This is him actually using the. Dr Steve: Look at that. Dr Steve: And and this guy probably is in better shape. If there's a thousand people in the room, he's probably in the top 5. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah. Dr Steve: It's not like he's like, you know, morbidly obese or really hurting. So he's he's probably doing this as a performance, enhancing thing. Dr. Mike Cheng: Exactly right. Exactly right. So if you want to call this having a competitive edge this is potentially, you know, one of the things that you know athletes can do to boost up the performance without any type of drug enhancement or Dr Steve: You're saying. If I next time I come back to the office I can go run for 200 yards in an Nfl game. Dr. Mike Cheng: I'm not saying that. No. Dr Steve: Oh!

29:50 Dr. Mike Cheng: Anyway, this is just like a reference of all the studies. Dr. Mike Cheng: Not anymore. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, so so. Dr Steve: The short version to the listener. This, this is hard science, backed by hard science. 1, 2, 3. I know there's about 15 studies Mike put up on the screen over several years there as early as 20 something, and and go to more current Dr Steve: as well. Dr Steve: Hard science, anecdotal results, numbers numbers that are showing. This is very successful. Again, somebody wants to try this, and they're within striking distance of where you are, which is in southeast Pennsylvania. Once you give your number and your site again. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yes. Phone number is (215) 443-5626. Website is www, dot, DRMI, KECH eng.com dot.

30:39 Dr Steve: There you go. Dr Steve: so we had nothing to lose here except some extra fat, and I guess, gain some muscle. That's correct. Dr. Mike Cheng: Correct. Dr Steve: I'm going to encourage everybody if you liked what you heard, or even if you're just curious, reach out this Mike's office. Dr Steve: make an appointment. Have a sit down, try a little taste of this you can work on. Can you do multiple parts of your body at once like, could you do your. Dr. Mike Cheng: No. Dr Steve: In your size. Is that. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, but they they recommend maybe like a 2 h gap in between sessions. Dr Steve: Okay. Dr. Mike Cheng: Because they want to make sure your body temperature goes back down after the 30 min session. Remember, we heat up your tissues right? They wanna make sure your body goes back to the normal temperature.

31:22 Dr. Mike Cheng: And sometimes we tell people, you know, you can have one session 1st and then go out and do some errands, and come back for the second session for the different. Dr Steve: Or maybe you do. One Monday, one Thursday or. Dr. Mike Cheng: Something like that. Yeah, something like that. We want to do 2 in the 1, 2 in the same day. We wanna have a couple of hour in between. Dr Steve: So those of you are listening to this. There's a picture on the screen of the paddles in various Dr Steve: parts. Yeah, legs, sides of the legs. Abdomen, I guess. Buttocks, biceps, triceps, calves, inner thighs. Dr Steve: Yeah, all the areas that matter. I guess you don't want to put this on your head, or we need to, although some people say a lot of people. Dr. Mike Cheng: Right, right, right. Dr Steve: Just joking, just joking. Dr Steve: what do you? All right. So let's talk about results. Here we go. Patient results. There we go. Look at the before and after picture. It's very noticeable.

32:10 Dr. Mike Cheng: Yup 3 Dr. Mike Cheng: a month, so I guess, for for a female they may need more time, just because they have less body mass Dr. Mike Cheng: or muscles compared to a male but also depends on their genetics. Their general health to start with, so. Dr Steve: Hmm. Dr. Mike Cheng: So you can see both 3 months and one month just depends on you know. Dr. Mike Cheng: gender age fitness level to start with. Dr Steve: Me ask you this because you're really in the health business, right, do you? Dr Steve: This goes beyond M. Sculpt. And, by the way, it's EMSC. ULPT. As opposed to letter M. Do you find that if you get somebody who's, you know, trying to kind of turn the corner right. Maybe they've just let their health go, because it's easy to do. Everybody's busy. There's so many Dr Steve: vices out there. There's so many ways in our food, even our food, I don't think, is all that great for you. A lot of the times, you know. People drink too much. People don't exercise enough. The list is long and scary, but in your professional experience do you find it? If people say, Hey, you know what I'm going to start here.

33:23 Dr Steve: So they come to you. They maybe get a treatment or they do something else. And now they're starting to feel better. So maybe they start to exercise more, and then they come back and they get adjusted again. Maybe they do this a little bit, and all of a sudden their whole trajectory has shifted right now, instead of going faster and faster down the path of lack of health Dr Steve: or lack of wellness, they kind of stop the bleeding, so to speak, and now they're slowly and accelerating in a positive way, creating healthy habits. Dr. Mike Cheng: And I also say psychologically, it boosts your confidence. Dr Steve: Which is super important. Dr. Mike Cheng: My different whole entire outlook on life.

34:03 Dr Steve: And then. Dr. Mike Cheng: Eventually we might get them, anyway, between, I would say 7 to 12 years more on their lifespan, because now you change your whole entire lifestyle, simply because, you know, we tweak a little bit. We'll give you a little jump. Start on the right path. Dr. Mike Cheng: That's how I see it. Dr Steve: Love it. Love it. Yeah, he's Mike just gets pitching up more before answer pictures which are before after, which are significant results. Dr Steve: Is there anything you did not get into? Because we're coming up on time a little bit, anything you did not get into that you want to talk about? Briefly. Dr. Mike Cheng: I would say. You know I'm open to have a conversation with anyone who is interested in improving their health, whether it's through chiropractic or through this in scope, Neil, because I also find out. You know a lot of times when people go see their. You know, health professionals.

34:55 Dr. Mike Cheng: They are probably spending more time in the waiting room than the actual treatment room. Dr Steve: Yeah, sometimes. Dr. Mike Cheng: Okay. So I wanna make sure when somebody comes in to talk about their health, we address their issues and then trying to figure out what is the best solution for them to achieve their goal? Dr. Mike Cheng: Because, you know, New Year New resolution. But why is everybody having the same resolution without any particular, you know, results. So somewhere they're falling through the cracks. Well, they're not following through what they're trying to do. So hopefully with what I have here as well as just me, as almost like a health coach getting Dr. Mike Cheng: cross the finish line, so to speak. Dr Steve: Beautiful. I mean, listen. Ultimately, health is a personal responsibility.

35:38 Dr Steve: and sometimes people just get dealt a tough deal, as it were. But you know in the end, you know, if you're not well, you got to look yourself in the mirror to a degree Dr Steve: and say, Look, are there things I'm not doing, I should, or things I'm doing. I shouldn't. And I'm not excluding myself from that statement. So Mike's got an offer you want to throw your offer out here. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yes, so you know, right now we have a introductory package now, usually, you know, if you go to a medical Spa or plastic surgeon's office. You might be paying, you know, a thousand to 1250 per session. But because this is a introductory rate, we we're gonna give you 2 packages.

36:19 Dr. Mike Cheng: That ranges between 5 to $580 per treatment. So package one. Dr Steve: In savings. Dr. Mike Cheng: Yeah, you can buy 4, and then you can get 2 free. Dr Steve: Okay. Dr. Mike Cheng: 500 and there's no I would say time lapse. You can pretty much use this anytime you want, but obviously we wanna get you, you know, depending on like I said, what your start fitness level is. If you're pretty fit, we can probably do this, you know, once a once a week for 4 weeks, and then you can kind of use the last 2 as a maintenance, you know. After maybe, like 4 or 5 months later we can do another session or somebody who needs a little help. Dr. Mike Cheng: Then you can get 6. You can do 6 weeks straight, and you can use the last 2 for free for maintenance Dr. Mike Cheng: for the rest of the year. What! Not for $4,000.

37:03 Dr Steve: So you're flexible at some point, as you get busier and busier. The flexibility might be a little trickier, but. Dr. Mike Cheng: Beautiful. Dr Steve: So I appreciate you making that offer. I'm sure it's not limited to people listening to this. But if this is something you're curious about. You know the path, make the call, visit the site. Dr Steve: make an appointment to get into the office, have the conversation. If this is the right thing for you, and I think you probably know that after you have your sit down right now, it's about half price, basically. And it's not always going to be there. So here we go. So let's close it up. Post-treatment considerations. Dr. Mike Cheng: Well, you might be a little sore afterwards, so we usually tell people it's like going to the gym for the 1st time. You you might be a little sore. But you wanna start, you know, hydrating.

37:50 Dr Steve: I can tell you myself, it's nothing that's not. Gonna it's not get a call in sick for work. Dr Steve: I mean, you could, I guess, but you'd be disingenuous. But yeah. Dr. Mike Cheng: But most people might just feel a little soreness. But that also tells you, hey, we just work your muscles Dr. Mike Cheng: so that tells you, you know. Dr Steve: 1,000 sit-ups, baby. Dr. Mike Cheng: Right so. But, like I said, it takes about 90 days after the last treatment for you to see optimal result, because the body needs to go through its transformation. Okay? But like I said, too, you know, we got to talk about what's a healthy lifestyle. You know. What is your diet, you know, in conjunction with this particular treatment. So this way, you can get the optimum result. Long term. Dr. Mike Cheng: which is. Dr Steve: Really the key.

38:30 Dr. Mike Cheng: It? Yeah, that's the. Dr Steve: I mean, that's really what everybody's looking for. Dr. Mike Cheng: So. But like I said, reach me at my office Dr. Mike Cheng: we can schedule an appointment. Have a discussion exactly what you're looking for what can we do to help you jump, start your health journey. Dr Steve: Beautiful. Well, listen. This is Dr. Steve Green. This is the make, the great experience. Podcast. We focus on your success, your wellness, your health, your ability to reach your goals. And again, I'm going to kind of close this out the same way, I began, which is saying that you got to take care of all aspects. Right? You got to take care of your physical health, your mental health. Dr Steve: your emotional health. I guess we don't talk about that as much here. But you should financial health, for that matter, and there's more to it. But this is in the physical wellness, space.

39:21 Dr Steve: perfect thing about it is. It's easy, I mean. Let's let's say as it is right. You go over. You lay down half hour later. You got half your fat. Whatever you got your fat incinerating your apoptosis right? Apoptosis, my new favorite word. You got your muscles churning. Dr Steve: What's not to like, Mike? Thank you so much for coming on. Is there anything we didn't cover at all? We really didn't get into much beyond your science here, but. Dr. Mike Cheng: So I think that's the general, you know. Idea. I want to convey to patients or anybody who was interested to see if this is something that's. Dr. Mike Cheng: you know, in. Dr Steve: I'm going to do something they don't always do. I'm going to give a personal testimony. I've been seeing Mike for some time. I've known him for years. He's very professional. He does a really good job. He's so he could probably hype this up a lot more. This could have been like an infomercial. That's not my style. That's not his style, and I'm I'm sure there's places out there where you're going to get kind of pushed at this. You need to do this, and it becomes like a sales thing and kind of a Dr Steve: icky kind of way. He's a genuine person who really cares about people, and that's a very high compliment, and I appreciate it. And I think his patients obviously on here. But I think they would agree. So I want to encourage everybody. Find out yourself. Take advantage of these offers, and you see how you feel. Let's do this. I'm going to make this proposal. Why don't we reconvene Dr Steve: in in some amount of time? And you know we'll we'll talk about the journey. We'll talk about more. Obviously, in a few months. You have way, more testimonials. I can share my own testimonial.

40:56 Dr Steve: I am being a I used to use the word guinea pig, or is that politically incorrect here? I'm being a guinea pig in this process, too, and you know I'm not. You know those of you know me. I'm not like grossly out of shape. I exercise pretty frequently, but you know you got that like 10 pounds 15 here and there, no matter what you do or not eat, or Dr Steve: you know I'm eating like, you know, healthy. I'm eating like broccoli and quinoa for dinner instead of yeah. Sometimes you just reach a point, especially as you get older. You know, metabolism, what? It isn't, what it always was, and Dr Steve: you know, so on and so on. So I'm excited to try this fact. I'm going to be there in a couple days, but we'll report. We got some some before and after pics to share if we can can't unsee them. Gonna warn you right now.

41:41 Dr Steve: Let you see him. You can't unsee him, as they say. So make the phone call, visit the site, set this up so those of you regulars please share this share this podcast. I appreciate that there are so many, the growth. This podcast. Dr Steve: Is like 90% organic. I don't. I like to reinvest resources into making this the best I can. I got about 20 guests lined up all over the map. I got people experts in travel kind of for your mental wellness. I got a guy who's a Somalier coming on, which is probably not the best thing after Mike's thing. But it's all about education, and it's all about. I got lots of business people. I got lots of academics. There's some pretty cool stuff in the pipeline. I was just out of the office Dr Steve: teaching at a business conference, 400 entrepreneurs, 400 plus. So I got a laundry list of them, want to come on this podcast so you're going to be getting a really good exposure to a very eclectic.

42:38 Dr Steve: a group of people. And I think this is going to just add as much value as we can. I'm going to drop a little tiny hint. I was asked on this cruise, this workshop I just taught at to host a television show. Dr. Mike Cheng: Nice. Dr Steve: That. So I got to bring some of my podcast guests onto my TV show with me, I got a phone call about that on Thursday, in fact, and we'll see where that goes. And believe me, I got a phase for radio. Dr Steve: so we'll see they still want me. So, Dr. Mike, thanks again. Dr Steve: Hopefully, you got your winter coat out. But yeah, you came from a cold. It's not like you didn't grow up in Miami or something. We deal with it. And I'm going to say, Hey, Mike's wearing his eagle shirt. He's repping it. We're coming into this weekend Nfc. Championship game. It doesn't happen every year. Folks, those who aren't sports fans. This is like a 4 time in a lifetime thing. So we're taking advantage of it as well. Thanks, everybody Dr Steve: see you next time.

43:36 Dr. Mike Cheng: Bye-bye.